# WildFlower's Pheromone Experiences.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [June 14, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914 "2008-06-14T14:50:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/261 "2009-11-15T23:43:52Z")

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**Saturday day/night**

Saturday was going to be a long day. The plan was to go to my friends apartment for a few hours, then catch a train into a nearby city to watch a gig, then back to our town afterwards for a night out. I chose the following mix and it was applied at 2.30pm: 3 drops of A314, 2 sprays of Ammo and 3 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)

My friend picked me up at half 2 and we went round to our friends apartment. There were four of us there (all guys) just chilling out, playing xbox, listening to music, the usual. No ‘stand out’ hits, just a really nice, smooth, effortless vibe that everyone could feed of. A314 and Instant Honesty certainly drive organic raport which leads to nothing but good times. Anyway, we left the apartment at about 5 and headed into town to catch the train.

We arrive into town early and so pop into a pub for a quick pint. Bump into a friend of ours, his girlfriend and his girlfriend’s best friend. There just chilling after work. I make an effort to not wear pheromones around this friend’s girlfriend as she shows a few signs of attraction and gets very giggly. She was giggly again on Saturday, but my friend was much more cool than normal about it (A314?).

We leave after 20 minutes, head to the train station and meet up with 2 girls who were coming with us to the gig. Catch a train and head to a pub. The two girls keep telling me I’m “very polite” and “one to take home to the mother”, simply because I use “thank you”.

9pm: We’re stood waiting for the band to come on and I’m just looking in the direction of the stage. The one girl who came with us (the one I don’t know so well) turned around and was just starring at me for 30 seconds flat. After the starring went on for to long to ignore I ask her what’s up, she giggles and says she was just seeing if she could make me uncomfortable.

11pm: we get a minibus back to town, on the way we’re discussing music. Likes and dislikes. The starring girl was very deliberate agreeing with every single thing I said. It seemed to me like an A314, ‘align yourself with him’ type hit. We get back into town at about 11.45, us guys are staying on in town whilst the two girls are going home. We all hug and part.

It was about 12.30 now, 10 hours after I applied the pheromones. I was on the dance floor and Greece came on. I was minding my own business when this slightly older women (30’s) reached out to me when the line “met a boy, cute as can be.” came on and started dancing with me. I had to politely excuse myself, but it was a very obvious hit.

I had similar – although less obvious – hits the entire night whilst on the dance floor. The lack of anone made me very casual and chilled, I was just in the zone having fun, not looking for hits but they just kept coming.

Eventually we move club and the same thing repeats itself there.

I went out on the balcony to meet my friend who was talking to an Asian girl, he introduced me and told me that the first thing she had told him was that she had the hots for me and that she has seen us both around a lot. Very embarrassing moment for both me and the Asian girl, but we both laughed it off. All 3 of us bantered for a good while before going back inside. The Asian girl kept approaching me for the remainder of the night.

After standing up for pretty much the entire day my legs were killing me, I went to sit down on my own for a bit. After 2 minutes sat down a older women (again 30’s) came and sat down next to me turned to look at me and gave me a prolonged DIHL’s. I chatted to her for a bit, before again politely excusing myself.

All in all, it was a great day. As far as ‘hits’ go, I got so many, some of which were quite strange. I applied the pheromones at 2.30pm and got home at 5am, so how much of it was pheromones I can’t say - I have seen Ammo hits 8 hours after application and A314 does last all day albeit it in a subtle way. One thing I can say is that I felt much more at ease – I just let the night unfold - and less ‘on the prowl’ without the usual 8-10pm application of anone (in one mix or another).

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/262 "2009-11-16T01:28:07Z")

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Very nice report Wildflower! Sounds like one hell of a day!🆒

No matter how many times I wear A314 it seems like it never loses it’s punch and I see the same hits, almost each time. You’re vibe was definitely saying “I am the man you want, now come and get me!”😃

One thing that I’ve noticed with A314 is that whenever I combine it with [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) I get GREAT hits, OBVIOUS hits, and it seems you experienced the same thing with those girls because I think that the IH made them feel like they knew you which took away some of the intimidation but made them want to latch even more.

Better watch out though Wildflower, if you ever where P83 with A314 and a few shots of IH around those girls…they might be _very_ tempted to…how should I put this…merge their souls with yours?😛

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/263 "2009-11-23T21:09:26Z")

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> Better watch out though Wildflower, if you ever where P83 with A314 and a few shots of IH around those girls…they might be _very_ tempted to…how should I put this…merge their souls with yours?

I actually have a funny story involving p83. On Saturday night I wore 2 sprays of Ammo, 40mcg of p83 and 40mcg of p86. Very effective mix. For the first few hours of the night I was hanging out with two female friends of mine I hadn’t seen in a while. The catch is they happen to be sisters. DON’T wear p83 around two sisters 😃 For about 3 hours all I got was one dirty story of one sister which would result in the other sister going “OH MY GOD I CAN’T BELIEVE YOU JUST SAID THAT” then it would be the other sisters turn to tell a dirty story and her sister would respond in the same way “DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT!!! 😮”

The p86 was doing its thing as well. I’m actually still crushing on one of those girls now a few days later and I’m not normally attracted to her at all. The p86 visual effect made me really appreciate her beauty (inner and outer), but p86 definitely goes deeper than that, there seems to be another element to it that attracts on a deeper level. The girl has incidentally been texting me like crazy since, which is also odd for her.

I left the two sisters to meet up with a few male friends and another female friend. The rest of the night I received insane hits, girls kept grabbing me from either behind the side or directly form the front to get my attention and start a conversation. It was largely due to the shirt I was wearing (I always get that reaction whenever I wear that shirt) but the p83 really enhanced how open the girls were as you would expect. I think p83 goes a long way to creating comfort due to how disinhibiting it is.

I _loved_ this mix, will definitley be wearing it again at the weekend.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/264 "2009-11-23T23:02:29Z")

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ROFL, great story Wildflower! That was incredible!😃

I’m actually glad that you tested P86 as well because I’ve been wondering about a good ratio of P86 to P83 and you just gave me a good idea!

It’s interesting that you got such great hits with Ammo and P83 because the a-none in Ammo is very well buffered but P83 seemed to make them feel it anyway which would explain some of the dirty talk. It’s quite amazing some of the things girls (and guys) say when influenced by this stuff.

Also, maybe you should add some TAF into the mix just to see what it does.😉

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/265 "2009-11-23T23:13:34Z")

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> ROFL, great story Wildflower! That was incredible!😃

hehe they were both in dis-belief. I was chuckling away to myself knowing exactly what was going on.

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> It’s interesting that you got such great hits with Ammo and P83 because the a-none in Ammo is very well buffered but P83 seemed to make them feel it anyway which would explain some of the dirty talk. It’s quite amazing some of the things girls (and guys) say when influenced by this stuff.

Whenever I wear p83 I get dirty, sex talk. Without fail it seems. I get the dirty talk more than the velcro-effect, although people do become very touchy feely. p83 with a bit of anone and the dirty talk effect is definitely amplified.

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> Also, maybe you should add some TAF into the mix just to see what it does.😉

Damn, I forgot to mention I was actually wearing 5mcg of TAF as well. I’ve been busy at work hence my belated report, I forget the little details once I’ve had a few sleeps ☹.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/266 "2009-11-25T23:15:22Z")

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**22.5mcg of p78 and 40mcg of p83**

wow, a very simple, but very effective little social mix. p78 is a personal favourite of mine, and recently I’ve been playing around with a higher than normal dose of p83 than I’d usually wear (normally about 25-30mcg but recently I’ve been testing 40mcg) so I thought I’d combine the two.

What can I say about p78? It’s charismatic, highly energetic, upbeat, social, very chatty, mildly arousing and it gives me nice, sensual butterfly type feelings in my stomach as well as suppressing any negative emotions I curently have in my head (some of which I’m never aware I had until I put p78 and watch them vanish). It is such a great stand alone molecule, but even better when combined with p83. The two together make socialising the easiest, most effortless thing to do in the world. Instant life and soul of the party. People became very noticeably perked up and bubbly around the mix, everything is smooth and just flows, bonds definitely become tighter. I think it’s impossible to wear this mix and hot have everyone love you.

People were more respectful around the mix than they are around just p78 solo. I got similar kind of status hits to what I get from about 1 drop of A314 – I was a little surprised at this. p78 by no means gets me disrespected but it certainly doesn’t increase the amount of status hits I get. The p83 at 40mcg definitely amplified my status, but not in the slightest in an intimidation kind of way, more just politeness and respect for a really, really cool guy that is making them _feel good_ (p78) and making them _want to show it_ (p83).

I, personally, have never had any negative effects from wearing p83 but I know other users have reported that p83 can amplify bad emotions or feelings. I feel for those who suffer from this should definitely pair it with p78. I’ve reported on it before, and I’m 100% convinced that p78 suppresses any bad, heavy baggage, feelings or emotions people may be carrying around. It doesn’t help you to simply forget things that are bothering you by picking up your mood like say TAA or anol do, it seems to _completely_ suppress and smother any heavy feelings. I always feel very emotionally detached from anything serious when I wear p78 – I don’t feel emotionally dead, because p78 seems to have the curious effect of filtering only the bad, heavy stuff. What I’m trying to get at here is that, when wearing p78 and p83 together people will _only_ be disinhibited is a light-hearted, positive way.

This mix is a perfect little social that everyone feels super good around - there is also no danger of you appearing effeminate and having people walk over you, witch can happen with some of the more over the top ‘dancing-on-the-ceiling’ type social mixes. I find p83 adds a bit of spice, but my next step will be to try the same mix with 2.5mcg of anone and see what direction it goes in.

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**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/267 "2009-11-25T23:21:31Z")

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Very cool! I happen to have both of these so I’ll have to give this a try! I’m always looking for something new that fits this description. Thanks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/268 "2009-11-26T03:20:26Z")

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Reading how you describe p78 makes me wonder how it would pair with TAK. TAK(lately) has been causing me to have a “I cant be bothered with bullsh\*t” type additude. I wonder if the 2 paired would cause a “light hearted”, “care free” sort of feeling.

Although, too much TAK makes me feel…snobby.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/269 "2009-11-27T16:10:53Z")

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**30mcg of p90**

I’m still at work so will have to keep this report short. I felt like trying something new today, looked in my phero-box and stumbled upon p90 - decided to give it another go. The first few times wearing this molecule the effects I got were pretty inconclusive, after today however, I feel I’m starting to ‘get it’.

I think it feels like a soft, mild rone. It’s like rone but without the ‘slow-down’ rone effects/properties. A sort of mutant child from rone/p74 – rone wih just a touch of p74.

I also feel much more alert, awake and vibrant. There feels like there is a subtle energy raising effect to this molecule. Not a p74/p78/TAA style high energy buzz, more like a calm energy raise. A subtle, laid-back kind-of buzz. Kind of hard to explain but it’s definitley there.

effects have faded after 7 hours. Anyway, roll on the weekend.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/270 "2009-11-29T22:07:48Z")

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**3 sprays of MX297, 5 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and 20mcg of p83**

I’m in love with MX297, it is everything I want from a mix. It feels so complete, yet others have suggested it works _even better_ with additional bnol and p83. I decided to give the recommended combo a spin last night (Saturday night)

The p83 and Honesty definitely made a difference. A – strictly – female friend only of mine was in the club. She kept going to kiss me on the lips, and I had to work hard to keep it at a cheek peck only. She has shown signs of been interested before, but never disinhibited enough to be so aggressive and forward about it. Unwanted hits, but hits nonetheless.

I ran into a girl I met a few weeks ago that I had made out with. We start dancing and chatting, she’s one of those girls who are instantly comfortable around everyone. I spend the next half hour just hanging out with her; she has a habit of covering my face in lipstick. Eventually me and my friends want to move club and head up street. The girl wants to come with me and so tags along with us.

An ex-partner of mine was in the new club and happened to be very, very drunk. She saw me holding hands and dancing with the girl I brought. We were walking over to a balcony for some air when I saw my ex, I politely said hello, and she ignored me. Whilst I was outside I saw her keep popping her head out the door to see what I was doing. I just pretended I didn’t see her. After going back inside several minutes later my friend (who knows my ex through me) was talking to her and he wanted me and her to ‘talk’ as she seemed upset – she didn’t want to though and disappeared. I thought fair enough and started dancing with the girl I brought, the next thing I know my ex is dancing next to me and continually banging into me to get my attention. I decided not to give her any and kept my back turned to her. Eventually she started dancing with this guy she knows and again kept following me, banging into me to get my attention. I didn’t give her any and just tried to enjoy the night.

The night was pretty much ruined as my ex was either sat looking drunk/miserable in the corner, trying to make me jealous and get my attention, or barge into me whilst passing – childish games annoy me. Can’t fault the pheromones though, they did their thing and I couldn’t ask for more. MX297 once again proved its consistency.

Wish I wasn’t low on MX297, this mix is my favourite. The self effects make me lead, lead, lead. It attracts girls, wow’s both girls and boys. Very smooth, yet very quick hitting. Although I feel it is high anone I wouldn’t have any qualms about wearing it as day wear because it feels so presentable and respectable. The last thing the anone can be perceived as in this mix is ‘pervy’, although the anone is felt pretty strongly the buffers (I think high rone) make it very appropriate to be used anywhere you want to attract.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/271 "2009-11-29T22:28:26Z")

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> [@The official MX297 discussion thread for men's test results](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx297-discussion-thread-for-mens-test-results/61493/8):
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> Yup, another great night with MX297! 🙂
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> Don’t let the ex’s get you down. I’ve been there where the ex just tries and tries to get attention. I have had more than enough trouble with my ex wife that now I just ignore her.

Thanks Snoop 🙂

Ex’s are strange. She broke it of but she acts jealous (I suspect jealousy - what else?) when she sees me with another girl. She chose not to be with me, but she doesn’t want me to move on. I hate little, childish games. Thanks for the advice Snoop, I’m not going to take any bait – ignore her it is.

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**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/272 "2009-11-29T22:35:36Z")

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Everytime I read an [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) report it just melts my heart. I’m REALLY hoping that my mix can at least match the effects because MX297 sounds EXACTLY like what I want **Black**  **Fallout** to be.😃

Nice job though Wildflower, and well played with the ex.🆒 I’ve been in that situation and unfortuantely the only thing you can do is ignore them. But I want you to remember this though Wildlflower:

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That’s what your ex is (no offense 😉) and you don’t want to feed into what she’s doing. She’s sending out bad vibes and hopes to bring them to you. You’re a good man, and you don’t need to let her Trollish behaviour ruin you.🙂

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/273 "2009-11-29T23:25:12Z")

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Thanks K-train.

I think my ex was just jealous and trying to make me jealous also.

I actually forgot to report one of the largest hits of the night that was very obviously the work of p83 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). A Chinese girl - who is friends with my friends cousin - I’ve seen once, maybe twice before, said to me “you’re hot. There I’ve said it” and then walked off embarrassed.

I hope you have success with Black Fallout, it looks like a great mix. Guessing the molecules and what ratios they’re at in MX297 and I’d say your mix is quite similar (minus a bit of bnol).

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/274 "2009-11-30T13:42:47Z")

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Hey WF, Great report. At first I got deja vu with some of your other reports involving your ex and having ‘the talk’. I do believe that would be a great mix. I have yet to try any of the [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) however.

What is the book in your avatar? I’m intrigued.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/275 "2009-11-30T22:24:47Z")

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> Hey WF, Great report. At first I got deja vu with some of your other reports involving your ex and having ‘the talk’. I do believe that would be a great mix. I have yet to try any of the MX297 however.

Yeah, definitely deja vu with the ex – I’m like a broken record hehe. She likes me enough to clearly try and make me jealous but not enough to full (re)commit to a relationship. I haven’t been happy with us been on and off, on and off, so I’ve cut contact down a bit and concentrated on seeing other girls. We had a good relationship and it ended mutually because she had quite serious family stuff going on. She told me about two weeks ago that she really likes me still and isn’t over me but doesn’t like the idea of a relationship right now so can only do the casual - I think I only semi buy that, but regardless, it’s all or nothing from my point of view which is why I cut down on the contact.

A little bit of advice: when (if 😮) [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) comes back in stock, get a bottle. You’d love it evolver, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/276 "2009-11-30T22:46:38Z")

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> What is the book in your avatar? I’m intrigued.

My avatar is one of Ken Wilber books. An absolutely fascinating man. Very, very intelligent and covers so much ground in his writing, from: religion, spirituality, philosophy, psychology, politics, sexuality, the whole lot, and all from a scientific viewpoint. He’s most known for his work on consciousness and is often referred to as “the Albert Einstein of consciousness”; I personally think his work on consciousness is significantly more in-depth and forward than the mainstream scientific community - which seems to see consciousness as simply “fireworks in the brain”. I’m amazed and kind of saddened by how little scientific study and probing has been done in trying to understand consciousness.

His work isn’t only knowledge for the sake of knowledge – it’s geared towards very much helping the individual improve. I’ve been wrong many times before when I’ve said to people “hey, I think you’ll like this, that or the other” but I think you’ll enjoy – and perhaps also benefit – from reading Ken Wilber. I think the best two books I’ve read by him are: A theory of everything and No boundary. If you’re interested, they’re probably the best two to read as an introduction.

[A Theory of Everything: An Integral Vision for Business, Politics, Science and Spirituality: Amazon.co.uk: Ken Wilber: Books](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Theory-Everything-Integral-Business-Spirituality/dp/0717131637/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259619945&sr=8-1)

[No Boundary: Eastern and Western Approaches to Personal Growth: Amazon.co.uk: Ken Wilber: Books](http://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Boundary-Eastern-Approaches-Personal/dp/1570627436/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259620066&sr=1-3)

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/277 "2009-12-03T22:24:04Z")

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OK so not used MX292 in a while. It’s new incarnation, MX353, is getting a lot of forum attention at the moment so I’ve ordered a togo with my latest order to try the new scent and see if there are any noticeable differences in pheromone reactions.

There is a reason I haven’t used MX292 too much recently which I’ll try and explain now. I like MX292, I do. I just feel that sometimes it can be either too much or too little. I feel the ratio of molecules is a little of kilter for a young guy like me - who prefers his anone somewhere between 2.5 and 10mcg.

If I wear 3 sprays, I’m wearing 15mcg of anone (and getting a good dose of the other good stuff in MX292). Not an instant OD by any means, but it’s down to chance whether I’m going to see reactions or not. I’ve always found with MX292 that it can be affecting people very, very strongly but they sometimes won’t show it. The feeling can be too overwhelming, too strong, too unexplainable and too incomprehensible for them to feel comfortable reacting to it (The comments Snoop reported that his girlfriend said, cemented this belief for me). What I’m trying to say is that at 3 sprays some people spend time trying to understand what their feeling rather than react to how their feeling – it puzzles people and stuns them into a nonreactive mode, also add to that anone shyness and you’re left having to do all the lead work (anyone else suffer from targets getting shy around anone?). 3 sprays is simply too much of a good thing. I could wear 1 spray of MX292 fine and have a nice dose of anone, the trouble then would be I wouldn’t get too much of the other molecules. The mix at one spray is less potent as an attractant than ammo is at the same anone mcg dose (5mcg). I’ve found to favour 2 sprays of MX292 over 1 or 3, but as a mix for a young guy I think it could be a lot more effective if some of the ratios were tweaked.

Here is my final prediction as to what I think is in 1 spray of MX292. Baring in mind we know already that there are 5 pheromones in the mix adding to a total of 50mcg per spray, and that anone, p86 and p83 are definite’s. It was also mentioned that it was a very expensive mix to create – my guess is that p86 is an incredibly expensive molecule to synthesize. Anyway here’s my final estimate of what’s in MX292:

5mcg of anone  
5mcg of rone  
10mcg of p83  
10mcg of bnol  
20mcg of p86

Not a dissimilar guess as to what I think is in MX297. The differences: I don’t feel any p86 is MX297, I also feel there is less anone (although still a lot) and more rone than there is in MX292. I also happen to think MX297 is a far more effective spray (at least more consistent), it does however have a different flavour to MX292 - it feels more ‘mature’. I’d like to have the MX292 falvour, without all the anone. I’d like to have the option of wearing the 3 sprays of MX292 (minus the anone) with just 5-7.5mcg of anone. I know Mharris said he was thinking of selling a MX292 ‘refresher’ – basically MX292 without anone to re-buffer yourself after a few hours, I think that would be great.

I will be going out tomorrow wearing the following mix. I’m attempting to recreate a low-anone MX292 which I feel will be more effective _for me than normal MX292 -_ however time will tell. It will also be interesting to see how this mix fares against a very similar mix I wore the other week - the main difference being the use of Ammo instead of Turn up the Heat.

2 sprays of turn up the heat  
40mcg of p83  
40mcg of p86  
3 sprays of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)

I also can’t wait to test MX353 and the new scent.

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PMing you.

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This week I’ve tried p90 a further three times at 30mcg. At first I didn’t really get much from it, but as I spend more time learning it I’m liking it more and more. I need to play with it some more to really get a grasp of it before I start mixing it with other molecules, but I can see it having a lot of potential within a mix.

I definitely feel there is a similarity between rone and p90 – p90 being like a lighter version of rone. By lighter I don’t mean more subtle in effects (although it is more on the subtle side – very organic) I mean it feels like a lighter shade of rone, a different shade. A paler tone.

A very chilled out molecule, ‘take it easy’ kind of vibe, anti stress. With rone I find I walk slower and my mannerisms slow down and become more deliberate and smooth. I get none of that from p90, but I do get the ‘whatever-happens-isn’t-a-big-deal’ vibe. I feel very in control of what’s happening around me. I feel life takes on a certain playful, lightness – not overly joyous, just nice and content.

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Last night was a bit crazy. I went out with the mix I said I would, but decided to add an extra spray of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for effect. The mix was:

2 sprays of turn up the heat  
40mcg of p83  
40mcg of p86  
4 sprays of Instant Honesty

I was meeting up with a reasonably close friend of mine who I’ve met in the last few months and another guy I’m pretty friendly with.

First hit came from my friend as we were n a pub drinking a beer. Our friendship is sort of superficial, in that we don’t go into deep conversations about the universe or the meaning of life, etc; we just go out and have a good time. Last night early on, he said “I’m not putting a Christmas tree up in my apartment this year”, I simply asked “how come” and he went “It’s depressing. I’m at the stage now were I want a relationship, but I don’t just want to settle down with anyone.” A subsequent mine heart-to-heart conversation endued. Blatant, blatant, blatant, undeniable Instant Honesty hits, which really strengthened and deepened our friendship. This guys gets girls like crazy and simply does not show any insecurities or weakness, but he opened right up to me there and then last night.

We bumped into a man (about mid 40’s) who lives and gets on with my friend, was challenging me. I presume he was very threatened by the anone and didn’t like a young guy like me with overt masculinity. Perhaps I had very partly OD.

Once we’d moved on to a club. Lots of proximity hits, but they weren’t instantaneous. Took a few minutes before people started to feel the mix. Noticed a bit of indecision from people, like a look of confusion, they’d semi react, then you could see them logically going “hold-on a minute?”.

I saw a close guy friend in the club who was out with this girlfriend – hadn’t seen him in a month. Boy does he ever keep up the appearance of Mr. serious. He likes to be the strong alpha guy, and by doing so very rarely has playful fun. Last night he totally let go around me. He was joking grinding on me, we started doing this jokey Irish line dancing, etc, etc. I was completely surprised by how much he just let his hair down – it was definitely, 100% caused by the pheromones (I’m assuming p83)

The scariest hit of the night came when a girl started grinding on me, she turned around and was preparing herself to kiss me. This guy came over and said to her “what the hell are you doing?”, I asked her if he was her boyfriend, she laughed out loud and said no (I presumed he was some oribiter) the situation looked fishy and by this point I’d decided I wasn’t going to kiss her anymore, made an excuse up and left the area. Later on in the night I saw her kissing the guy so they were very obviously together. This hit was a little _too_ primal; it’s as if she had lost her mind for a few moments. Quite scary, and not the type of reaction I want from pheromones.

I moved club with my friend after this and encountered another strange hit. Was on the dance floor again, a girl suddenly becomes interested starts dancing with me, kisses me for a bit, then tells me “I’m poor” and points at the bar. I wasn’t having any of that and told her that I was poor too and she disappeared of towards the bar on her own. Strange girl.

What surprised me about the mix was that it wasn’t instant – at least not for everyone. It seemed to take 10 minutes of exposure before I’d start seeing reactions. And then I’d get crazy (almost scary in some cases) overt, lost-their-mind, type reactions. p83 definitely disinhibited people in a very primal way last night. I’m not sure yet whether I prefer this mix to the same mix but with Ammo instead of Turn up the Heat. I’m going to try this mix again tonight with Turn up the heat, then make a comparison.

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