# WildFlower's Pheromone Experiences.

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [June 14, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914 "2008-06-14T14:50:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 8

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/141 "2009-09-18T06:32:45Z")

</div>

Jesse! Where you been man? Don’t see you on as often, you’re missed!

> [@jessejester](#):
>
> WF, I have found TAC to be one of the best buffers of -none that I have found so far. When I wear IJ, I use TAC along with some other socials for buffer.
> 
> I have also worn it with AMMO, and have found that it takes a bit of the edge away from the overall punch of AMMO, because it is already well buffered. It kind of weakens it. Even at 5-10 mcg’s, the AMMO seems over buffered. However, when using high -none, its awesome. I look forward to hearing how it works for you, It may just be me that it has this effect on.
> 
> Correct Sir!! -None, Meo-est, TAC, P83, and p74 are some of the pieces to the BWM (Barry White Mix) I use. -None and P83 bring the sexual edge while the others bring a closness/LMR reducer kind of effect. When I invite woman over for dinner, BWM is the first mix I reach for. BWM is high -none, with a matching amount of TAC, + the other components.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/142 "2009-09-18T07:55:49Z")

</div>

> [@mikotorocks714](#):
>
> Jesse! Where you been man? Don’t see you on as often, you’re missed!

Thank you for noticing Miko, Ive been working and figuring out a new city. Learning my new job has been chalenging, and CA is very different from FL in alot of ways. I am trying to find my spots here. I have been doing alot of testing though. I have many reports to write. A314 + IJ will be one of the first I write. I have given it 3 months of testing, and will get around to completing the report soon. All my notes on everything are on word docs.

Not to be a downer, but another reason I have not been posting as much is, reading the forum has been different lately. The main page has been continually filled with the same kind of stuff. There are now very few people who seem to be interested in the R&D side of phero use, or at least reporting on it. I spend most of my time in Journals, and looking for members names I know on the main page. You, Marty, DJ A, Wildflower, Jayarea, Snoop, Catlord, Steve, and some others, I always read what you all write. Alot of the people I learned so much from rarley post, or dont post here anymore at all. Mark, Renny, Diamond, to name a few. Im not saying anything, or trying to stir anything up, im just making an observation. And dont get me wrong, I still love it here. AD is still awesome, its just a bit different.

Sorry Wildflower, I dont mean to bring the mood down. I look forward to your AMMO and TAC report.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/143 "2009-09-18T08:24:31Z")

</div>

Yeah, definitely a lot of newer n00bs. I’ve also been a little undercover because I’m trying to perfect my Instant Big Balls A’ Plenty and The Drunken Mix so I’ve been toying with those when I can or go out. Usually I’m on trying to get points as well 'cause I’m broke at the moment, so meh.

> [@jessejester](#):
>
> Thank you for noticing Miko, Ive been working and figuring out a new city. Learning my new job has been chalenging, and CA is very different from FL in alot of ways. I am trying to find my spots here. I have been doing alot of testing though. I have many reports to write. A314 + IJ will be one of the first I write. I have given it 3 months of testing, and will get around to completing the report soon. All my notes on everything are on word docs.
> 
> Not to be a downer, but another reason I have not been posting as much is, reading the forum has been different lately. The main page has been continually filled with the same kind of stuff. There are now very few people who seem to be interested in the R&D side of phero use, or at least reporting on it. I spend most of my time in Journals, and looking for members names I know on the main page. You, Marty, DJ A, Wildflower, Jayarea, Snoop, Catlord, Steve, and some others, I always read what you all write. Alot of the people I learned so much from rarley post, or dont post here anymore at all. Mark, Renny, Diamond, to name a few. Im not saying anything, or trying to stir anything up, im just making an observation. And dont get me wrong, I still love it here. AD is still awesome, its just a bit different.
> 
> Sorry Wildflower, I dont mean to bring the mood down. I look forward to your AMMO and TAC report.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/144 "2009-09-18T18:42:40Z")

</div>

Actually I can relate to what you are both saying. I used to love reading the journals and reports of some of the ‘gurus’ on here when I started but I rarely see any of them posting anymore. I have great fun trying out new putatives and MX’s but there aren’t many new members really doing as much of that. Not that nobody is really doing it, andrew88777 does a lot of trying new things and sigil.tech does a lot of pherobomb reporting but the feel of the board has changed from when I joined.

Even with the economy, (thankfully) I still have enough disposable income to spend on my phero hobby so I plan to keep trying things as they come out (or discovering for myself some old ‘gems’)and reporting on them so that is going to continue to be my main focus here.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/145 "2009-09-18T18:51:07Z")

</div>

Hey, it’s OK Snoops. You know what that means though, right? That it’s up to us now to start doing the job. It’s like we’re the “new school” pheromone experimenters.

> [@Snoopyace](#):
>
> Actually I can relate to what you are both saying. I used to love reading the journals and reports of some of the ‘gurus’ on here when I started but I rarely see any of them posting anymore. I have great fun trying out new putatives and MX’s but there aren’t many new members really doing as much of that. Not that nobody is really doing it, andrew88777 does a lot of trying new things and sigil.tech does a lot of pherobomb reporting but the feel of the board has changed from when I joined.
> 
> Even with the economy, (thankfully) I still have enough disposable income to spend on my phero hobby so I plan to keep trying things as they come out (or discovering for myself some old ‘gems’)and reporting on them so that is going to continue to be my main focus here.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/146 "2009-09-20T23:01:34Z")

</div>

Thanks guys for stopping by and reading, I really appreciate all your feedback and advice.

> [@](#):
>
> WF, I have found TAC to be one of the best buffers of -none that I have found so far. When I wear IJ, I use TAC along with some other socials for buffer.
> 
> I have also worn it with AMMO, and have found that it takes a bit of the edge away from the overall punch of AMMO, because it is already well buffered. It kind of weakens it. Even at 5-10 mcg’s, the AMMO seems over buffered. However, when using high -none, its awesome. I look forward to hearing how it works for you, It may just be me that it has this effect on.

I’m not one of those guys that can pull a high anone mix of; for me, buffering makes anone more presentable – it removes the bad traits, but I can never buffer away the good traits. I could wear 2 sprays of Ammo with 5 sprays of Spaceland (that’s 5mcg of anone against, what? 255mcg of anol) and I still wouldn’t have weakened the anone down – changed the vibe significantly, but definitely not killed the anone of. Now on the other hand I could overdose on some [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) and all the spaceland in the world wouldn’t help me a single bit. My tolerance for anone does change slightly from environment to environment, person to person, accompanying pheromones to accompanying pheromones (or lack of) but overall I find that I can’t over buffer anone. Between 2.5mcg-10mcg of anone is the range where I get positive hits, 5mcg-7.5mcg being my usual dose. Anything above 10mcg of anone and I’m in OD territory regardless of anything else. I guess I’m just kind of an odd ball when it comes to anone, but I am very interested to find if TAC will be able to buffer what would usually be an anone OD for me, or perhaps even _over_ buffer it.

> [@](#):
>
> Have you found that p74 ([Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p74/)) clashes with -none?

Again, this may just be me but if I wear anymore than 10mcg of p74 with say 2 sprays of Ammo I get negative reactions due to a bizarre clash. Males tend to treat me exactly the same as they normally would, if anything I get slightly positive reactions but with women it’s a different story. A p74 anone clash causes women in general to become very irritated with me and everything I do becomes intolerable to them. It’s actually kind of funny to see the confusion on a girls face as she feels herself very annoyed by your presence but unable to identify why, what will usually happen is the girl will look for little things to pick a fight over.

The p74/anone thing may only effect me, but I’ve seen the clash consistently enough to know that – for me – anything above a 2:1ratio of p74:anone is bad news. I don’t know if this is the case for anyone else, or if there is a way to combat this with other pheromones but I’d be intrigued to find out. I love p74, it works really, really well with p83, p86, p93, TAA and in particular bnol but I like to keep it separate from anone – a molecule I love equally as much.

> [@](#):
>
> Sorry Wildflower, I dont mean to bring the mood down. I look forward to your AMMO ([AMMO – Sexual Attraction Pheromone Cologne For Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)) and [TAC](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-c/) report.

No need to apologise at all. I agree that the forum seems to be going through a bit of a lull phase at the moment for what ever reason. I’ve seen this a few times before and it always bounces back – I guess people take a break for their own personal reasons (I know I’ve been too busy to post as often as I’d like) but they always seem to come back.

I have to admit I do actually enjoy reading a few of the threads written by new guys here, I think it can be quite refreshing to get inside the head of a person who’s looking at the pheromone community from an outside perspective. Whilst everyone is talking about the intricacies of this, that and the other, the new guy is asking himself questions like “WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THIS?”, it makes me laugh because it reminds me of how startled, baffled and confused I was by this when I stumbled across this forum and what felt like countless different products with funny codes each with a very specific purpose. I agree with you though that too many of the same old threads can get tedious and I’d much rather see the 2005 experts back reporting more regularly – I have faith they will be though, I believe it’s just a quiet period.

I’m just about to go to bed so don’t have time to type my Ammo, TAC report up. Because of your own and Snoopy’s recommendations though I couldn’t resist the temptation to add MEO-EST (my first time trying it) and p83 to the Ammo and TAC. Before I write the report tomorrow, I’d like to thank you both for discovering and sharing the anone, TAC, MEO-EST, p83 combo: a serious, serious winner of a mix. After reading yours and Snoopys reports I decided to wear: 3 Ammo, 150mcg MEO-EST, 40mcg TAC and 30mcg p83. I got nothing but hits, I’ll definitely be typing a report up tomorrow. Thank you both again for stopping by and recommending the combo, I loved it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/147 "2009-09-21T04:13:12Z")

</div>

> [@WildFlower](#):
>
> I’m just about to go to bed so don’t have time to type my Ammo, TAC report up. Because of your own and Snoopy’s recommendations though I couldn’t resist the temptation to add MEO-EST (my first time trying it) and p83 to the Ammo and TAC. Before I write the report tomorrow, I’d like to thank you both for discovering and sharing the anone, TAC, MEO-EST, p83 combo: a serious, serious winner of a mix. After reading yours and Snoopys reports I decided to wear: 3 Ammo, 150mcg MEO-EST, 40mcg TAC and 30mcg p83. I got nothing but hits, I’ll definitely be typing a report up tomorrow. Thank you both again for stopping by and recommending the combo, I loved it.

Awesome! I am really happy to hear the combo worked for you. I look forward to your report.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/148 "2009-09-21T14:53:11Z")

</div>

Hooray! Can’t wait to read about it.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/149 "2009-09-21T15:19:31Z")

</div>

> [@](#):
>
> I have to admit I do actually enjoy reading a few of the threads written by new guys here, I think it can be quite refreshing to get inside the head of a person who’s looking at the pheromone community from an outside perspective. Whilst everyone is talking about the intricacies of this, that and the other, the new guy is asking himself questions like “WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THIS?”, it makes me laugh because it reminds me of how startled, baffled and confused I was by this when I stumbled across this forum and what felt like countless different products with funny codes each with a very specific purpose. I agree with you though that too many of the same old threads can get tedious and I’d much rather see the 2005 experts back reporting more regularly – I have faith they will be though, I believe it’s just a quiet period.

You echo my sentiments about the newbies completely. I think it’s a nurture the forum vs. nature of the forum problem. Although we may all wish for new contributions from the much vaunted veteran reporters, we can always look back into their previous contributions with the search function. Their legacy lives on through the archives. And as for the newbies, they look up to us as those people with experience for advice. There’s room to continually expand the users and the knowledge in this community. One way of giving back to Androtics can be to assist that growth.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/150 "2009-09-21T22:24:15Z")

</div>

**Friday night:**

> [@](#):
>
> 3 Ammo  
> 150mcg MEO-EST  
> 40mcg TAC  
> 30mcg p83

Applied the pheromones before leaving the house at 9pm. Having never tried MEO-EST before I applied this one several minutes before the others to get a - very brief - feel for it on it’s own. I opted for 150mcg as between 100mcg-150mcg is where I’ve seen users reporting hits. I’ve read that it feels very similar to p78, but on first glance I didn’t feel that at all. p78 is so obvious and instant, where as I couldn’t quite get my head around what MEO-EST was doing solo, or what it did the whole night with the other pheromones. It was obvious that it was doing _something_ and that something was very profound and getting me a lot of hits, but I couldn’t quite grasp at what that something was. I think it has some sort of Instant Shine-esque polishing, glow-y effect. Seems to makes your whole persona more pleasant and attractive. A pheromone that delivered so many hits, but at the same time was so elusive in what attributes it brought to the mix.

30mcg of p83 is a nice dose for me, so I opted to go with that. I love how it pairs with Ammo – it really brings to the surface any sexual tension and makes people very vocal about it – sex is definitely the main topic of conversation whenever I wear p83. It makes me want to touch things and together with the Ammo makes other people want - and be disinhibited enough - to touch me. The TAC did seem to buffer the Ammo in the same way I’d expect something like [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to do, and thank god I didn’t get any p74 clashing effects. As for MEO-EST, well it added a LOT, but what it added I don’t quite know. I’m definitely going to have to try this one solo to get a real taste for it’s flavour.

I left the house about 9pm and had to get the bus into town. As soon as I got on the bus and ordered a ticket the bus driver (male, about 30) started joking and chatting with me. There were about 2 other people on the bus, and I sat down near the front. As I sat down the bus driver started to continue his conversation over a bit of distance (about 6-8ft), I couldn’t shut him up, but what was more striking was how he was talking to me as if he had just met his long lost brother. Has anyone else noticed that TAC seems to have a “long time no see” affect on people who have literally never seen you before? I’ve picked up on this a few times before in my limited testing, but this was the most extreme example to date. Eyes light up, conversation starts flowing, but it’s in the manor in which the person talks to you and the conversation topics they bring up which gives a sense that they feel like instant best buddies around you. Anyway, the bus was getting busier and busier as we got close to town and the driver was still talking away to me and ignoring everyone else, other than to serve them. Two young girls got on and sat between my seat and the driver for a few stops, during which he went quiet and didn’t talk. As soon as they got of, he instantly picked up with me were he left of. When we ran out of things to talk about he picked the conversation back up by humming my ring tone (Funky Town) and then going into “that songs going to be in my head now all night…so what music do you listen to?” The journey was about 30 minutes long and I finally made it to town after talking about the bus routes and times of the whole entire area.

After getting of the bus I headed to a bar to meet up with three female friends (social proof is a much more powerful phenomena when you are the solo male with a group of girls rather than being in a mixed group of girls and guys). I get there and it’s pretty quiet at first, we were all just sat outside around a table slowly drinking, talking and having a good time. I felt TAC again, it really made the socialising a lot of fun and just created ‘nice’ and ‘pleasant’ vibes, real genuine smiles of people. These three girls respond well to pheromones and are a good test for how effective a mix is. This mix was proving quite alluring and attractive (p83 seems to add urgency). After a few hours drinking two of my friends want to go inside to dance, a third wants to stay outside with me. By this time the place is getting a little busier.

Me and my female friend are outside talking and off course the conversation gets dirty (p83). Me and this girl often talk about a persons “va va voom”: “So who do you think here has got the va va voom? You know someone who you feel has either charm or charisma but the feeling doesn’t come from one of the 5 senses, it’s just something you intuitively feel?” she’s always telling me I have sex appeal and she’s very into psychology so this kind of conversation topic is very normal for us. We love to read who likes who, we give people nick names and little stories, we talk about the psychology behind attraction. Tonight was less psychology though and more dirty stories. The p83 really had her unashamedly revealing all her dirty stories to me. During the hour we were outside talking, on two separate occasions a girl I semi-know would come over for a little chat, this was making my female friend a little jealous and the sign was tonight she wanted me all to herself (we have a really, really good friendship, but we’re also on/off fuck buddies – the off part being because I’ve been in a relationship)

We go inside to look for our two other friends and it turns out they’ve already moved venue, I think they were a bit annoyed that me and the other girl were spending to much time together. We head across the street to where they were and met up with them. We bought a drink and headed out on to the dance floor. I head over to the DJ to make a request (guess what? Funky town – we’re in a really cheesy bar here) whilst I was on the other side of the dance floor I bump into single Sarah from last week. We started dancing which quickly lead into her kissing me, we made out with each other twice before I had to urgently leave due to one of my 3 female friends being in the wrong place at the wrong time and ending up with a drunken, jealous girl picking a fight (surely down to not being as attractive as my female friends) I didn’t even get to finish my drink but it was time to leave.

Out in the street and one of my female friends came up to me (slightly drunk now) telling me how much she loves me and that if I got in a fight like she just did she’d protect me, and would I protect her?, etc, etc. When she’s drunk and I’m wearing a good mix she starts telling me that I’m “sexy” which I usually deny, and Friday night in the middle of the street was no exception. The other female friend I was outside with earlier came over and took my hand and together all four of us moved on to a club.

When I got inside, somewhere between ordering a drink and moving to the dance floor I lost the girls, but bumped into the girl I talked about in my report from the previous Friday. We ended up on the dance floor then we started making out again. Between then (about 12-1ish) till 3am, I having nothing much to report as I spent most of the time either dancing, sat down chatting or making out with the girl from last week. She’s outside having a smoke and getting ready to leave for her night bus when my female friend comes outside, I introduce them both chat for a bit, then kiss the other girl goodnight. I know all this makes me sound like a cold hearted player, but really my female friend, although a little jealous, really does not mind me seeing other girls. We have a really good friendship which sometimes leads to sex, but somehow the two can’t be merged together and a relationship formed – it’s bizarre and I can’t put it into words why, it’s just the way it is.

I want to go back inside the club for one last drink but my female friend insists that we don’t, and that we go to this late night bar we often go to (to make character stories up about all the drunk people trying to pair of) I think she wants me to herself and does not want us meeting up with the other two friends.

We head to the little place and sit and talk. The talk is quite dirty (again p83) and is now not previous sex stories but what she wants to do with me. We’re cuddled up, she makes me stroke her legs, smell her hair, smell her perfume (off course I make her smell mine), we end up kissing a few times and she tries to take me home. Tonight was not the night but this weekend I think it will be.

We go to order food, then get a taxi home (separate houses tonight) when I get in the taxi we realise her onion bahjis aren’t in the bag, so I get out and go back into the takeaway on my own to et some more bahjis. When I’m in there a girl I know from a few months is there and her face lights up in a way I haven’t seen before, we chat for a bit whilst the food is cooking, then when I have to go back out to the taxi she plants the biggest kiss ever on my cheek – never seen her react like that before to pheromones. I get back in the taxi and head home. A good night.

The whole night felt effortless and it just flowed. Attention, attraction, whatever I wanted it was all effortless and it came to me without me looking for it. It just happened, the mix made it happen like all good mixes do. I was in a totally care free zone (because of TAC) and people wanted to come into that zone and join me. I will be trying the exact same mix again this week because it really is something special. Thank you _again_ and _again_ Snoopy and Jesse for brining this combo to my attention.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/151 "2009-09-22T02:05:09Z")

</div>

Hey that’s a great report WF!@!!

When I first got MEO-EST I had heard reports of it being a comfortable pheromone, and I had images of cuddle bunnies and so forth. However, I have perceived MEO-EST to be an _active_ comfort pheromone. This means people feel comfortable bringing out their true energies, of being energetic and doing things. This is different from _passive_ comfort, which ends up bringing you down the path of least resistance. Heck, maybe it has a bit of both, I haven’t tested it much but it really seems like an excellent addition to most any mix.

I have a bottle of TAC on the way, i’m anticipating having lots of fun with it.  
Isn’t it lovely how when we emerge from a relationship, women everyone hear the clarion call of sex+love? The main problem: Too many choices!!!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/152 "2009-09-22T02:07:12Z")

</div>

> [@evolver](#):
>
> The main problem: Too many choices!!!

Sounds like a great problem to have! I think you’ll like what Meo-Est and TAC do together. I also find it works great when you combine them with TUTH or [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/).

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Zergie123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ba9def/32.png) [@Zergie123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Zergie123)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/153 "2009-09-24T10:35:38Z")

</div>

Awesome report, really descriptive and long, enjoyed the read 🙂 Good luck with your future mixes.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/154 "2009-09-24T12:15:06Z")

</div>

> [@evolver](#):
>
> When I first got MEO-EST I had heard reports of it being a comfortable pheromone, and I had images of cuddle bunnies and so forth. However, I have perceived MEO-EST to be an _active_ comfort pheromone. This means people feel comfortable bringing out their true energies, of being energetic and doing things. This is different from _passive_ comfort, which ends up bringing you down the path of least resistance. Heck, maybe it has a bit of both, I haven’t tested it much but it really seems like an excellent addition to most any mix.

WOW. That was very, very good. I’m nominating this post because I think you’ve just hit the nail on the head and put it into language perfectly.

> [@](#):
>
> Isn’t it lovely how when we emerge from a relationship, women everyone hear the clarion call of sex+love? The main problem: Too many choices!!!

haha bizarre isn’t it? Every weekend for the past month or two has been crazy for the amount of attention I’ve received. There are definitely too many choices at the moment, but if I’m honest, I’ve been the girl’s choice a lot of the time – they haven’t been mine. It’s the bolder, aggressive girls who make things happen and make the moves which I’ve ended up making out with or getting with. At the moment I haven’t been looking - at least not proactively - everyone seems to have come to me, I’ve just been going with the flow and having fun. Perhaps it’s my indifference that has been drawing girls to me and they’ve all been way out of my league. I realise this can’t go on for ever, so I’m just enjoying the whole ‘too many choices’ situation while it lasts.

> [@](#):
>
> Sounds like a great problem to have! I think you’ll like what Meo-Est and TAC do together. I also find it works great when you combine them with TUTH or P75.

I do really like the synergy between TAC and MEO-EST, it created something quite magical. Thanks for discovering it. Do you find the anone and p75 to be similar? p75 reminds me of Arnold Schwenger - tough and muscley, but he’s still always got a smile on his face, friendly and approachable despite the physical dominance. It seems like it could be a suitable anone substitute.

> [@](#):
>
> Awesome report, really descriptive and long, enjoyed the read 🙂 Good luck with your future mixes.

Thank you for stopping by and the compliment.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/155 "2009-09-24T20:43:34Z")

</div>

This morning I looked around at all the Grapefruit scented to-go bottles I had and realized I had enough to make a batch of ICM .5a so I made a mutant version with [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) (1.5 mcg per spray in the mix). After it composites for a few days, I’ll let you know how it goes! I’m actually excited about this because if it works the way I hope it will, I plan to replace the ~none in my other things with P75.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/156 "2009-09-25T01:20:49Z")

</div>

> [@Snoopyace](#):
>
> I plan to replace the ~none in my other things with P75.

I have been working on this very same thing for awhile now, and I have to say that I have had inconsistant results. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) meshes well with all the socials, but fails to bring the sexual punch that -none does. I have tried it with a bunch of different combos, but the one I have worked with the most is P75, IO, IS, and p83. I have worn p75 between 2.5 and 15 mcgs. The social aspects are there, but not really -none type hits. Its been tough to get a hold of. What I have got so far has been more of a “sure i will talk with you, you seem interesting” rather than a “ooo who’s this sexxy mo fo.” There just seems to lack…that edge._shrugs_ But it is still a work in progress. My theroy might be wrong.

It will be interesting to see what you come up with Snoop.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/157 "2009-09-27T20:39:54Z")

</div>

I’m looking forward to reading how both your p75 experiments go - especially as a anone replacement. I don’t think I’ve ever worn p75 other than solo but I plan to try it this week with an equal amount of p95.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/158 "2009-09-27T21:38:56Z")

</div>

**MX291 preliminary tests**

I’ve worn this one on 3 separate occasions now - twice at 3 sprays and a single time at 2 sprays. I live in the UK, which means when making an order at Androtics it’s more cost effective to make a large-ish order to make the most of the shipping costs. When making my last order I was browsing through the MX section of the store when MX291 caught my eye (because of how much attention it’s next door neighbour MX292 has received) I did a quick search on the forum and found there wasn’t a single mention of its name anywhere – not even in passing. I jumped at the opportunity to test an MX blind and proceeded to add 3 togo bottles to my cart which consequently make my order large enough to spread the shipping costs out – win-win.

When I try something new, and especially when I’m trying something blind, I generally wear it to environments where I do not want a particular outcome. Because of this the first few tests I do usually aren’t done in the most appropriate of environments. However, here are a collection of hits, observations and trends I’ve picked up on during the 3 tests:

When getting a taxi home I instructed the taxi driver to drop me on the corner and I’d walk the rest home. The taxi driver then insisted that he take me all the way home rather than drop me on the street corner. He went out of his way to do this and refused to take any extra money. He was adamant that he was going to take me to outside my house and not charge the extra fare. He was happy to do this, he _really_ wanted to do this and there was nothing I could say that would stop him. Prior to that minor hit he spent the journey just chatting friendly. MX291 seems to make people ask a lot of ‘you’ related questions – it seems to make people want to talk about you more than about themselves.

Whilst washing my hand in the toilets at some bar, this guy starts talking to me nonstop, wouldn’t leave me alone. Being a bit supplicating to me, he opened me with a little bragging story about himself before he switched the focus away from himself and started interviewing me. I feel there is a hefty dose of bnol and rone in this mix.

Was at a small gathering with some friends, I had driven, was getting tired and wanted to go. I asked one friend if he was ready to leave and offered him a lift home, he said yeah. His voice more animated than normal, was thanking me for the lift, offering me petrol money, and was very respectful and almost embarrassed that I was helping him and that it was not the other way round with him helping me, bit of a trust vibe as well. Very out of character for him, I haven’t seem him behave this respectful towards me before- not even whilst wearing A314.

The other various hits I’ve had have been similar to the ones mentioned above which is where I’ve drawn the following conclusions from.

**Conclusions so far:**

These are preliminary conclusions, like I said the 3 tests haven’t been done in environments and circumstances where hits have been able to flourish. The next time I will be wearing MX291 it will be to a place – and around people - where, I know I can get better hits and will therefore be able to get a better understanding of the mix. Until then however I will say that this mix seems to hit males more so than it does females – or at least I haven’t seen how it affects women yet. Almost all my hits I have received from men so far.

A reoccurring theme when wearing this mix is that people seem to bend over backwards to help or please you. It doesn’t feel at all like A314 where people want to show you respect because of how alpha they perceive you. It seems to evoke respect because it makes you much more likeable and ‘cool’. Guys can be quite supplicating around you, a little fascinated by your aura (but not intimidated). Seems to create a familiarity about yourself in people who haven’t met you before and therefore creates unwarranted trust.

The one hit I’ve got from a female so far was a deep revealing of how she was feeling. Seems to evoke trust and understanding. I want to see how this mix effects females more, but it definitely seems to create a desire to please and help you in men.

I like this mix, after 3 tests I haven’t been able to quite figure it out but look forward to trying it again. I’m thinking so far this is a respect (not necessarily a status) and bonding mix. Has a strong social component to it, people are very trusting, chatty and open. Makes you seem very likeable and people want to entertain and please you. Haven’t noted any sexual hits yet but that could be the environment.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/159 "2009-09-27T21:50:57Z")

</div>

Detailed and intriguing observations.  
I also got a bottle of MX291 with my last order, for the same reasons you wrote. Let’s see how our results compare 🙂

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914/160 "2009-09-28T00:22:44Z")

</div>

Excellent report! 🙂 The hits from men you describe remind me a lot of how MX292 affects them. Can’t wait to read more about your experiences with this!

> [@WildFlower](#):
>
> **MX291 preliminary tests**
> 
> I’ve worn this one on 3 separate occasions now - twice at 3 sprays and a single time at 2 sprays. I live in the UK, which means when making an order at Androtics it’s more cost effective to make a large-ish order to make the most of the shipping costs. When making my last order I was browsing through the MX section of the store when MX291 caught my eye (because of how much attention it’s next door neighbour MX292 has received) I did a quick search on the forum and found there wasn’t a single mention of its name anywhere – not even in passing. I jumped at the opportunity to test an MX blind and proceeded to add 3 togo bottles to my cart which consequently make my order large enough to spread the shipping costs out – win-win.
> 
> When I try something new, and especially when I’m trying something blind, I generally wear it to environments where I do not want a particular outcome. Because of this the first few tests I do usually aren’t done in the most appropriate of environments. However, here are a collection of hits, observations and trends I’ve picked up on during the 3 tests:
> 
> When getting a taxi home I instructed the taxi driver to drop me on the corner and I’d walk the rest home. The taxi driver then insisted that he take me all the way home rather than drop me on the street corner. He went out of his way to do this and refused to take any extra money. He was adamant that he was going to take me to outside my house and not charge the extra fare. He was happy to do this, he _really_ wanted to do this and there was nothing I could say that would stop him. Prior to that minor hit he spent the journey just chatting friendly. MX291 seems to make people ask a lot of ‘you’ related questions – it seems to make people want to talk about you more than about themselves.
> 
> Whilst washing my hand in the toilets at some bar, this guy starts talking to me nonstop, wouldn’t leave me alone. Being a bit supplicating to me, he opened me with a little bragging story about himself before he switched the focus away from himself and started interviewing me. I feel there is a hefty dose of bnol and rone in this mix.
> 
> Was at a small gathering with some friends, I had driven, was getting tired and wanted to go. I asked one friend if he was ready to leave and offered him a lift home, he said yeah. His voice more animated than normal, was thanking me for the lift, offering me petrol money, and was very respectful and almost embarrassed that I was helping him and that it was not the other way round with him helping me, bit of a trust vibe as well. Very out of character for him, I haven’t seem him behave this respectful towards me before- not even whilst wearing A314.
> 
> The other various hits I’ve had have been similar to the ones mentioned above which is where I’ve drawn the following conclusions from.
> 
> **Conclusions so far:**
> 
> These are preliminary conclusions, like I said the 3 tests haven’t been done in environments and circumstances where hits have been able to flourish. The next time I will be wearing MX291 it will be to a place – and around people - where, I know I can get better hits and will therefore be able to get a better understanding of the mix. Until then however I will say that this mix seems to hit males more so than it does females – or at least I haven’t seen how it affects women yet. Almost all my hits I have received from men so far.
> 
> A reoccurring theme when wearing this mix is that people seem to bend over backwards to help or please you. It doesn’t feel at all like A314 where people want to show you respect because of how alpha they perceive you. It seems to evoke respect because it makes you much more likeable and ‘cool’. Guys can be quite supplicating around you, a little fascinated by your aura (but not intimidated). Seems to create a familiarity about yourself in people who haven’t met you before and therefore creates unwarranted trust.
> 
> The one hit I’ve got from a female so far was a deep revealing of how she was feeling. Seems to evoke trust and understanding. I want to see how this mix effects females more, but it definitely seems to create a desire to please and help you in men.
> 
> I like this mix, after 3 tests I haven’t been able to quite figure it out but look forward to trying it again. I’m thinking so far this is a respect (not necessarily a status) and bonding mix. Has a strong social component to it, people are very trusting, chatty and open. Makes you seem very likeable and people want to entertain and please you. Haven’t noted any sexual hits yet but that could be the environment.

[Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914.md?page=7)

[Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wildflowers-pheromone-experiences/13914.md?page=9)
