# Will "run into" a girl in a few days **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 17, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409 "2014-03-17T16:31:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/1 "2014-03-17T16:31:41Z")
Have made improvements lately and it appears that the [girl](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-chance-to-start-over/56449) has developed some kind of interest towards me. My use of mones thus far and my [experiment #3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/styrs-experiment-3-escape-from-the-friend-zone/60396) seems to have borne fruit. While I am testing a few new molecules on my own, I’d also appreciate any and all insight you guys can give me. 🙂 Don’t want to screw this one up. 🙂 Long story short: I have known this girl (25 years old, Belarusian origin, quite shy) for ca 4 years. She liked me at the very beginning, but I did not approach her until a year later. Managed to screw it up before getting physical, ended in the Friend Zone. Engaged in some beta behavior - i.e bringing too many gifts (she might have seen it as stalking), trying to win her back, apologizing for a mistake I thought I had made - and she ended up blocking me. Unblocked me soon after, however and we resumed being “friends” without mentioning the term. Anyway, I have reason to believe she wants to have me around (she had told that to one of our mutual friends after the experiment) and now she inquired out of the blue (after ca 6 months of no contact) as to when I will be travelling to Sweden (she works on the boat). I had plans to go anyway, so I chose a time she is onboard. Should also note that her friend I see quite often has made inquiries about me. i.e, if whether I am single, and so on. 😃 Here is my weaponry: - A314 - [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) - IG - TUTH - IO - IH - IS - P74 - P75 - P79 - P83 - P95 - P96 - P97 - TAC - TAF - TAL - MX353 - TAL - A-1 - Some copulins - As well as some IS-A, IS-B and MX335 - albeit I do not fancy using them for obvious reasons. 😃 I have read quite a lot of positive reports on MX353. Also about IG+P96. I’d appreciate all the suggestions and advice. .) ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandTex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolhandtex/32/741_2.png) [@CoolHandTex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolHandTex)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 4:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/2 "2014-03-18T04:24:49Z")
> [@Styr](#): > > Have made improvements lately and it appears that the [girl](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-second-chance-to-start-over/56449) has developed some kind of interest towards me. > > My use of mones thus far and my [experiment #3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/styrs-experiment-3-escape-from-the-friend-zone/60396) seems to have borne fruit. > > While I am testing a few new molecules on my own, I’d also appreciate any and all insight you guys can give me. 🙂 Don’t want to screw this one up. 🙂 > > Long story short: I have known this girl (25 years old, Belarusian origin, quite shy) for ca 4 years. She liked me at the very beginning, but I did not approach her until a year later. Managed to screw it up before getting physical, ended in the Friend Zone. Engaged in some beta behavior - i.e bringing too many gifts (she might have seen it as stalking), trying to win her back, apologizing for a mistake I thought I had made - and she ended up blocking me. Unblocked me soon after, however and we resumed being “friends” without mentioning the term. Anyway, I have reason to believe she wants to have me around (she had told that to one of our mutual friends after the experiment) and now she inquired out of the blue (after ca 6 months of no contact) as to when I will be travelling to Sweden (she works on the boat). I had plans to go anyway, so I chose a time she is onboard. > > Should also note that her friend I see quite often has made inquiries about me. i.e, if whether I am single, and so on. 😃 > > Here is my weaponry: > > - A314 > - Ammo > - IG > - TUTH > - IO > - IH > - IS > - P74 > - P75 > - P79 > - P83 > - P95 > - P96 > - P97 > - TAC > - TAF > - TAL > - MX353 > - TAL > - A-1 > - Some copulins > - As well as some IS-A, IS-B and MX335 - albeit I do not fancy using them for obvious reasons. 😃 > > I have read quite a lot of positive reports on MX353. Also about IG+P96. I’d appreciate all the suggestions and advice. .) Not the expert on the mones yet and I know you’ll get plenty of tips here but I must say the situation is sounding good. I’d be looking at the friend if you have an attraction to her. Sometimes it takes a bit of in your face and don’t know what you got Til it’s gone before this girl in the friend zone realises what she’s lost 😃 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 4:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/3 "2014-03-18T04:33:48Z")
IG+P96 . Dilute your TUTH to 1/5 with [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). Gradually work up -eNone in 1/5 increments and note resistance or lack thereof. The steering in TUTH really brightens some molecules. So, 2-3 sprays of that diluted formula is the optimum overall for most women. I would call it the maximum work-safe dose. 1.25 mcg -eNone. One woman who turns her nose at one spray Heat tolerates the dilute mix well. I dare say the fragranced nanogram -eNone in the store, that would be a friendzone breaker. Gradually, insidiously, build up. -eNone **does** work at nanograms. Nearly any woman of any age (can’t vouch for Asians) will tolerate 1/5 TUTH. It pushes the sexual tension just a bit. It is an unspoken message of sexual interest. She’ll get it. She made hide it, but she’ll get it. It’s a matter of pushing the line without going over. ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/4 "2014-03-18T11:33:40Z")
Thanks. 🙂 How many mcg’s [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) should I use? ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/5 "2014-03-18T14:34:33Z")
Just make sure your EGO doesn’t blind you, Styr. Years later … she just may be missing the gifts. Sometimes, people realize just how good they had it, and then they come back for the same reasons they left. Two drops of A314 and a spray of AMMO would be my recommendation. And you have enough time to test it out around people you know. ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/6 "2014-03-18T14:53:58Z")
I certainly do not know what she is thinking, but it was actually me giving her the gifts and attention that drove her off. That was back when I had no knowledge of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (or rather that they work) and I was a needy AFC practicing beta behaviour. 😛 However, now my Ego thinks I am better than back then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/7 "2014-03-19T01:08:39Z")
> [@Styr](#): > > I certainly do not know what she is thinking, but it was actually me giving her the gifts and attention that drove her off. That was back when I had no knowledge of pheromones (or rather that they work) and I was a needy AFC practicing beta behaviour. 😛 > > However, now my Ego thinks I am better than back then. 😃 I hear you, but my statement wasn’t really about your EGO, but her motive for a return dance. Short on gifts? She’s learned your value? Or is her heart leading, or her head? The heart rules and rocks! The head, not such much. Now, ask yourself … “DO YOU REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT?” And remember, ANYONE CAN ACT, BUT NO ONE CAN ACT FOREVER. Pay attention, listen, watch, and don’t be in such a hurry to spend. You can’t buy love, but in today’s society, you may be able to buy some time. Just saying. Either, or, I hope it works out the way you would like. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandTex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolhandtex/32/741_2.png) [@CoolHandTex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolHandTex)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/8 "2014-03-19T02:14:23Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > I hear you, but my statement wasn’t really about your EGO, but her motive for a return dance. Short on gifts? She’s learned your value? Or is her heart leading, or her head? The heart rules and rocks! The head, not such much. > > Now, ask yourself … “DO YOU REALLY WANT TO FIND OUT?” > > And remember, ANYONE CAN ACT, BUT NO ONE CAN ACT FOREVER. Pay attention, listen, watch, and don’t be in such a hurry to spend. You can’t buy love, but in today’s society, you may be able to buy some time. Just saying. > > Either, or, I hope it works out the way you would like. 😉 I agree with M&M and back to my original comments I’d be looking at her friend since she’s already showing interest in you. Obviously only if you have an interest in her. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/9 "2014-03-19T15:14:10Z")
I really like monesmadedoit’s plan here. I do find that P96 helps women more comfortable feeling sexual around you, when TUTH is present. I also feel that additionally, some P95 could be also useful to keep that playful connection and encourage bonding… 2.5-3 mcg may be enough. For P74, how about 12 mcg. Your was currently 15 mcg yes? So 12 is 4/5. It has been suggested prev. that \>15 mcg of P74 is friendzone And 1/5 of 2.5 mcg eNone is 0.5 mcg - ie. nanogram range. I think that’s what he was getting at. If you use any [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), I would suggest using LESS than 1 mcg to start out, increasing along side the eNone as was suggested. I feel like 15 mcg of 74 will be fine if you have even the tiniest amount of 75 in there, since 75 overpowers it so easily. If you get a 1 mcg eNone sprayer, you can do 500 ng with a half-spray. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/10 "2014-03-19T16:19:43Z")
> [@CoolHandTex](#): > > I agree with M&M and back to my original comments I’d be looking at her friend since she’s already showing interest in you. Obviously only if you have an interest in her. 😃 Thing is, Cool, friends exchange info: “I left him because he kept buying me gifts and things. He tried to buy me. And likes spending.” Friend’s thought: “Hmmmmm! I like gifts.” 🙄 Personally, I’d leave that entire circle, and cast my net some place else. But! As Human Nature would have it, we chase what we can’t have. 🆒 AS THE WORLD TURNS. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/11 "2014-03-19T16:44:01Z")
Thanks, Iwatkins. 🙂 Yes, I thought of using less than 15mcg. Diluting it with TUTH should do the trick. P95 was also on my mind. 🙂 And some [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/). 😛 As to her friend. It is not she who is interested in me, rather than the girl. Her friend is just a proxy. 🙂 It is quite obvious considering her behaviour. the girl is likely afraid to ask directly, as I have changed and have not been chasing her for the better part of two years. So - I assume she is not sure about me and has asked her friend, whom I regularly meet to do the detective work. 🙂 - I should have been clearer about that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/12 "2014-03-19T17:40:10Z")
4 sprays from a 30 mL of P74 7.5 mcg to each 1 spray TUTH 30 mL into a TOGO. I shared with our student doctor female user a study on -eNone and eRone conducted entirely by and with women. This will eventually work its way through the mones community. I think Androtics has kind of always understood this, because Michael had more of a technical understanding than many phero companies. Androtics has never been heavy into -eNone. Basically, birth control pills greatly affect rone and none perceptions. They affect all smells generally. There’s been 20 years of good data saying BC pills could perturb natural evolutionary mate selection, where the woman sort of falls for the wrong guy because the pill is tricking her natural attraction choices. In the case of TAARs, the specific genes have already been mapped. The phero world isn’t ready to deal with the coming reality tidal wave. Many things currently thought to be mysteries are not. It’s just the knowledge isn’t widely known. [Trace amine-associated receptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trace_amine-associated_receptor) On P96, try testing maybe 20 mcg alone. People call it a bridge [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/). What it seems to be doing is acting as a modifier of modifiers. This may work wonders for dysphoria, combined with the right other mone. eRone or anything slightly sedating is a good place to start. I’m unable to post that study because it contains info. about a wholesale pheromone vendor that would be a commercial competitor. I will give it to Brian, however, if anyone wants the content authenticated. Ironically, there are certain scent reactions that are very good indicators of whether a woman is actually on the pill. And yes, sensitivity to mones and smells varies greatly through the cycle. The future of phero tech is scientifically targeted mixes for the specific intended target. ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/13 "2014-03-20T15:39:12Z")
Can’t say I am a big fan of IG+P96 and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) with a hint of TUTH. While I initially attracted (she approached me) a nice girl (11 on a scale of 10 looks-wise), I was unable to escalate. Yes, my night game sucks, to say the least. Nothing spectacularly different with my target girl either. Felt like a waste. 🙂 Got however a complete go-around with only ca 30 seconds exposure with a drop of A314, 2 sprays of MX353 and the TUTH+P74 mix with 12,5mcg P83 and 1 double strenght IO and IS added. I literally saw my target girl melt in front of me. Day-time. I hope I was not hallucinating and I get the same result in the evening- at night when her night shift begins. 😛 Maybe it will even turn the new girl around. 😛 Just have to make sure they don’t see each other. The ship has cameras everywhere and my target girl has the screen next to her. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/14 "2014-03-21T01:17:02Z")
Wow very interesting situation you got there sir. My recommendo would be p130, p95, Tac, Tuth, and IH.. And in that order with regards to spray amounts (highest to lowest).. I certainly agree that trying to buy someone gifts can be taken the wrong way. It’s not so much that your buying, it’s what your buying. If it’s something the lady really wants or likes then she’d be happy to receive it. You know, sentimental things. The type of things that has to do with her personality and such…things that say you really have an interest in who she is. For instance, if you know she likes to do photography on her free time, then maybe a new camera , or lens, etc. would be appropriate. Then again, if things work out with you two, I don’t think you’ll want her to remember you only bought gifts in the beginning to try to get her and now you don’t anymore..big no-No. So yeah I think, personally, gifts are a bad decision from the get-go. Even if your intentions are good and you are not trying to buy them to win her but because you’re just nice like that…still … Just food for thought. ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 8:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/15 "2014-03-21T08:51:52Z")
It appears I was hallucinating afterall. She was friendly, but said no to meeting up later, i.e. a date. MX353 did not do the trick afterall. Added 12,5mcg of P95 and two IH instead of IO. Washed it off and went back later with A314, 2x Ammo and 2x IS. No change. Did not work out with the new girl either. Besides she seemed rather slutty when I saw her today. Got hits from a few waitresses though - whom I have not opened yet. (With MX353) One waitress in particular was singing to herself each time she passed me. As for gifts. I brought them only after things had gone sour. She did not get anything before that, when things went well. ---
**Author:** ![Jdub](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jdub/32/1399_2.png) [@Jdub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jdub)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2014, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/16 "2014-03-21T15:31:54Z")
Ok I see, so it was more like to patch things up. Well to me that’s totally acceptable. Man , I’d suggest moving on and finding somebody new. It seems this girl has brought you a lot of unnecessary hassle, for nought. ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/17 "2014-03-23T20:51:47Z")
> [@Jdub](#): > > Ok I see, so it was more like to patch things up. Well to me that’s totally acceptable. > Man , I’d suggest moving on and finding somebody new. It seems this girl has brought you a lot of unnecessary hassle, for nought. I will move on. There are countless + n nice girls around I have not asked out yet. I have become more confident, even in spite of this utter failure. I was able to keep my head in a somewhat upward position upon her saying no. 😛 Anyway, with the help of pheros and with the added confidence from past encounters I have never done better. Heck, I would do almost as good without pheromones as I would with them. Opening up with girls (or anybody for that matter) is not hard at all any more. Albeit escalating is. Have to find a remedy for that too. 🙂 Will try out different mixes… I have really come to like MX353, so that will be the main component. I will, however see if I can affect the primary girl in the first post of this topic. I have simply spent too much time to get nothing in return. I still like her… assuming I could turn her around and get HER to want me more than me her. I am going to see her in the future whether I want it or not. Wearing A314, IH, P74 and MX353. It will either create some fallout with her, or it will not. And if I have found someone by the time she has turned around… well then it is her loss. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/18 "2014-03-23T22:26:41Z")
> [@Styr](#): > > **I will move on.** > [@Styr](#): > > **I will, however see if I can affect the primary girl in the first post of this topic. I have simply spent too much time to get nothing in return. I still like her… assuming I could turn her around and get HER to want me more than me her. I am going to see her in the future whether I want it or not. Wearing A314, IH, P74 and MX353. It will either create some fallout with her, or it will not.** And if I have found someone by the time she has turned around… well then it is her loss. 🙂 I guess all I’ll say is, _ **“DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY, REGARDLESS.”** _ ---
**Author:** ![Styr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/styr/32/5195_2.png) [@Styr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Styr)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/19 "2014-03-23T22:40:59Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > I guess all I’ll say is, _ **“DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY, REGARDLESS.”** _ What I meant is; I will not actively pursue her, contact her or do anything other than wear a specific fallout mix if I know I will see her (professionally). If she at some later date wants to meet (and I am willing to do so), then it is a good thing. Thus far I had taken the more active approach. Talking with her, being more interested in what she does, asking her out, and so on. I am not going to be her “friend” any more. It is more to see if a fallout mix actually works. If it does, and I am not in a serious relationship by then (and if she shows me respect), then it is a win by any standard. Plenty of other nice girls I have met and are worth my time I have to ask out. And even more girls I have not yet met. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409/20 "2014-03-23T23:08:01Z")
Now that they have -eNone in nanograms, it can be a great tool to push sexual tension. If gradually increased amounts yield no IOI, there’s probably not enough attraction to work with…better to move on. The 314 B spray can work wonders sometimes as a quicker hitter for fallout. I’m also hoping they might release a mutant IH, without the alpha nol. I’d like to see if a 2X of that plus the 314 spray could be a potent a cheap fallout for folks that want results in about 4 weeks. When the attraction is strong enough, could be just a few dates. I’d think 314 spray + IH + 74 would work for you. The 353 may have too much -eNone. Even just [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/)/IH/P74 is good. Some women will instinctively withdraw from any sexual response they feel in public to that much -eNone. They are conditioned to suppress their arousal. In other words, using TUTH, etc. in most daytime situations is quite difficult. It takes masterful skill to work heavy -eNone in work, school, retail or other situations. They work in a sexually charged context. The average girl in a college class isn’t primed situationally to respond to a sexual urge in class or at work. Anymore than I want an erection from being copped in church or Wally’s Super Store. Wrong place, wrong time. At the bar? Go ahead, grind me. Not ashamed. I can put that arousal to quick and effective use for both of us. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-run-into-a-girl-in-a-few-days/61409.md?page=2)