# Will Spaceland ever be around again, and if not what's the closest substitute? **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [April 20, 2011, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964 "2011-04-20T09:16:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/1 "2011-04-20T09:16:55Z")
Will this ever be around again? I’d like to try it out. …and if not, what’s the closest substitute to it? Thanks a lot, yall! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/2 "2011-04-20T11:28:32Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > Will this ever be around again? I’d like to try it out. > > …and if not, what’s the closest substitute to it? > > Thanks a lot, yall! 😃 We have no current plans to re-release Spaceland. There are some ways to get similar effects, a search of the forum should yield those. The issue with Spaceland is that it was very wasteful on content and wasn’t precisely the most ‘important’ mix we’ve sold. ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/3 "2011-04-20T15:49:51Z")
John, congratulations. You do not appear to be mean, even though you are bringing disappointing news. 🙂 You are very informative as to why, and you treat the clients needs as if they’re your own. ---
**Author:** ![Goodguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@Goodguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Goodguy)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/4 "2011-04-20T16:08:53Z")
Dear John, I am happy at what you are doing, since you took over. We are looking forward to you introducing some kick ass [pheromones](https://a314.com/), just like your predecessors. I just discover P78. We need more new ones, which will be as good, as those excellent ones, that have been discontinued. You know how it feels John, when a particular pheromones is opening DOORS for you… You love it , you love it. Its performing miracles like Jesus, and suddenly without warning …Bam…Its discontinued. Then you lie down on your bed. and mourn… Keep up the good work. Thanks. > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > We have no current plans to re-release Spaceland. There are some ways to get similar effects, a search of the forum should yield those. > > The issue with Spaceland is that it was very wasteful on content and wasn’t precisely the most ‘important’ mix we’ve sold. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/5 "2011-04-20T16:48:22Z")
> [@YourDreamsStayBig](#): > > John, congratulations. You do not appear to be mean, even though you are bringing disappointing news. 🙂 You are very informative as to why, and you treat the clients needs as if they’re your own. I don’t know if you were being sarcastic or genuine about your comment but John I have noticed is the kind of person is not quick to say bad things about people and as you can see from his posts and even from behind the scenes he is very pleasant in what he says and does. It is different and refreshing working with someone who not even sarcastically or politically will put you down but be upfront and very forward in his thinking. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/6 "2011-04-20T18:36:13Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > We have no current plans to re-release Spaceland. There are some ways to get similar effects, a search of the forum should yield those. > > The issue with Spaceland is that it was very wasteful on content and wasn’t precisely the most ‘important’ mix we’ve sold. Thanks as usual, John! Am I correct in that spaceland was a high dose of TAA mixed with something else? (I cant remember the name but I know it’s an herbal agent) Mainly wanting to test it with A314 and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) in a mix and see if I get the same or similar results xD ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/7 "2011-04-20T18:39:19Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > We have no current plans to re-release Spaceland. There are some ways to get similar effects, a search of the forum should yield those. > > The issue with Spaceland is that it was very wasteful on content and wasn’t precisely the most ‘important’ mix we’ve sold. It looks like it’s a mix between TAA and Clary-Sage… Do you all sell the Clary Sage stuff, or does any of the other folks reading know where I can get some and how much to mix to get the Spaceland Effect? ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/8 "2011-04-20T19:53:50Z")
Defiently not being sarcastic. Because I have noticed that John appeared rude in a lot of his posts, and I knew it wasn’t intented. He’s been doing much better lately. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/9 "2011-04-20T20:35:39Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > It looks like it’s a mix between TAA and Clary-Sage… Do you all sell the Clary Sage stuff, or does any of the other folks reading know where I can get some and how much to mix to get the Spaceland Effect? The Clary Sage didn’t add to the effect, it was merely just a scent that went well with it. I think we MAY have some clary sage EO but I’ll have to get back to you on that one. E-mail me at [jslavalle@androtics.com](mailto:jslavalle@androtics.com) and I’ll look into it. EDIT: We are actually getting in another scent package thats musk based that may go well with it. I’ll see about that, too. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/10 "2011-04-20T20:36:58Z")
> [@YourDreamsStayBig](#): > > Defiently not being sarcastic. Because I have noticed that John appeared rude in a lot of his posts, and I knew it wasn’t intented. He’s been doing much better lately. Let me translate your post into John Sebastianspeak: > [@YourDreamsStayBig](#): > > I like sarcasm a lot but its not what I’m using right now. Because John is from Jersey he comes off abrasive, and I know he couldn’t be as much of a jerk as he reads. He’s been a lot less of a tool lately. Fixed. 😃 LOL ---
**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/11 "2011-04-20T20:51:22Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > The Clary Sage didn’t add to the effect, it was merely just a scent that went well with it. > > I think we MAY have some clary sage EO but I’ll have to get back to you on that one. E-mail me at [jslavalle@androtics.com](mailto:jslavalle@androtics.com) and I’ll look into it. > > EDIT: We are actually getting in another scent package thats musk based that may go well with it. I’ll see about that, too. Rock on my man! And I didn’t think your posts that I’ve seen have ever been rude… then again most of my ‘tribe’ and I are always pretty verbally blunt and to the point without candy coating or holding back, so that’s the kinda personality that I’m used to being and have fun being around on nights out with the guys. ---
**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/12 "2011-04-20T21:05:41Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > It looks like it’s a mix between TAA and Clary-Sage… Do you all sell the Clary Sage stuff, or does any of the other folks reading know where I can get some and how much to mix to get the Spaceland Effect? I thought the main phero in Spaceland was a huge dose of alpha androstenol? If so, you can still buy that [pheromone](https://a314.com/) from Androtics; its in the experimone section. ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/13 "2011-04-20T23:16:30Z")
> [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > _ **Will this ever be around again? I’d like to try it out.** _ > > _ **…and if not, what’s the closest substitute to it?** _ > > _ **Thanks a lot, yall! 😃** _ > [@ochrismongrelo](#): > > _ **It looks like it’s a mix between TAA and Clary-Sage… Do you all sell the Clary Sage stuff, or does any of the other folks reading know where I can get some and how much to mix to get the Spaceland Effect?** _ > [@xev](#): > > _ **I thought the main phero in Spaceland was a huge dose of alpha androstenol?** _ > > _ **If so, you can still buy that pheromone from Androtics; its in the experimone section.** _ And once again, xev is correct. 😉 Spaceland is _primarily_ anol @ 50mcg/spray plus the hippie scent of Clary Sage. Ochris, you should be able to simulate the “spaceland” effect by using a higher dose of Anol. 🙂 Bella ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/14 "2011-04-20T23:19:21Z")
And you should be able to find Clary Sage from any vendor that sells good quality essential oils. Bella ---
**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/15 "2011-04-20T23:19:39Z")
Hahahahahahahahahaha 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/16 "2011-04-20T23:52:49Z")
> [@Bella](#): > > And you should be able to find Clary Sage from any vendor that sells good quality essential oils. > > Bella Yes it’s very common. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/17 "2011-04-21T13:21:48Z")
I suppose somebody could just order a mega high dosage of Experimone A-nol or maybe 4X strength IO (not sure if the B-nol in it would reign it in much). I got a free sample of spaceland a while back and tried it. Didn’t care for the smell all that much but the giggle factor was definately there. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/18 "2011-05-03T15:46:58Z")
Damn. Spaceland was one of my favorites. I just thought that it would have been better with a chocolatini scent to go better with my Angel Men cover cologne. The hippy smell was kinda hard to match to a cologne. ---
**Author:** ![idle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/idle/32/344_2.png) [@idle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/idle)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/19 "2011-05-07T17:07:52Z")
Here is an interesting find from my end. Recently i tested [Schinus molle - Peruvian Pepper](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schinus_molle) /essential oil (100% absolute) and it smelled 1 to 1 like the spaceland 😃 now i use small drops of it to add to some of the pheromone mixes to produce some really strange bug good scent. (but not funky as the original spaceland) So get your Androstenol from [ExperiMone™ Series :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) and add a few drops of Schinus molle 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964/20 "2011-05-07T18:31:33Z")
I’m going to give that a go for sure. I haven’t used that EO yet and now you got me curious. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/will-spaceland-ever-be-around-again-and-if-not-whats-the-closest-substitute/49964.md?page=2)