# With this combination, what can I expect? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 14, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832 "2009-12-14T23:25:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Uptonogood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3e96dc/32.png) [@Uptonogood](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Uptonogood)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/1 "2009-12-14T23:25:44Z")
I’m _might_ buy the following products and combine them: Instant jerk, a314, and tuth. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what I could expect with that combo. I’ve read the descriptions of ij and a314 and am convinced that the effects of both of those will be VERY interesting to say the least. Anyway, the reason why I’m asking is because I figured you guys would be better able to tell me how it could all go down due to the fact you have more expirieince with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/2 "2009-12-14T23:52:13Z")
You might need to tone that signature down some by adding Instant Shine or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), but hey live and learn… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/3 "2009-12-15T01:45:37Z")
Your using 3 products all containing anone. Expect to OD or repel people. You need to balance. Men frequantly make the mistake at first of getting all the heavy masculines thinking this is what turns women on. Its not just heavy masculines. You need the socials IO IH Ishine to draw them in and make them feel comfortable while the masculine mix sneeks under their radar and tickles their fancy. 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/4 "2009-12-15T03:03:02Z")
> [@Uptonogood](#): > > I’m _might_ buy the following products and combine them: > > Instant jerk, a314, and tuth. I was wondering if anybody could tell me what I could expect with that combo. I’ve read the descriptions of ij and a314 and am convinced that the effects of both of those will be VERY interesting to say the least. Anyway, the reason why I’m asking is because I figured you guys would be better able to tell me how it could all go down due to the fact you have more expirieince with pheromones. > > Thanks. I’ve had good hits with that combo in a crowded bar with a dance floor. But I’m also 15 years older than you. Only try such a none heavy combo in a bar/club environment. In a bar/club I would try just 1 spray of TUTH and 1 or 2 drops of A314. If you repel people with this mix then add some [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to the mix next time you go out. If you can get away with TUTH and A314 then you might add IJ the next time you go out. Again if you repel people, you will need to add Instant Openness. Don’t try Instant Jerk if you repel people with TUTH. If you repel people with just one spray of TUTH even when buffered with Instant Openess then find a way to apply less than one spray of TUTH. I think one guy in the past has used a dropper that gives a very small dose per drop. ---
**Author:** ![reddog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reddog/32/2091_2.png) [@reddog](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reddog)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/5 "2009-12-15T23:46:01Z")
Right on Tisha! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/8 "2009-12-16T00:54:49Z")
Wow, you nuts? That’s like an instant bad juju mix! I wear IJ and A314 in a “sweet spot” range but with plenty of socials to boot to minimize possible backlash and to bring a high level comfort! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/with-this-combination-what-can-i-expect/34832/9 "2009-12-16T01:03:45Z")
Like Tisha wrote, using IJ, A314 & TUTH all at once is likely to be a very negative experience, ranging from repelling man, woman and beast to indifference and hostility. Not a smart combo unless you want to intimidate, fuss 'n fight. Start with one product at a time, using a low dose and observe interactions. If reactions were nil or mild, use a little more the next time around. If negative, reduce dose. IJ and TUTH are variations on the same basic thing, so don’t bother to mix them. USe them to sex up A314 once you know your limits. As others have said, all three can be overbearing even as a standalone and work best for most men when coupled with a friendly mone product like IO, IH, SOE or CTTM. And, finally, success is still mostly about what you do and say. Pheromones merely impart an edge. You still gotta do the grunt work.