# Wolf's Pherodiary **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 30, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036 "2009-08-30T17:29:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/41 "2010-01-27T19:35:24Z")
Things are getting complicated. This girl I tried to get to dance with me a couple times at the club when she was the only game there must have set me on the back burner until recently. She is starting to call me up to come do things. One of my male friends really likes her, and I’ve been trying to set them up and it’s like she wants me all the more or something. Been letting him use mones and explaining about them, hoping he can get some confidence and get a little bolder. He’s really shy, and that’s not something she goes for. When I hit the club on Saturday night, one of my friends already there pulls me aside and has me take a seat. He tells me that the second I came in my ex cleared out of there -quick- (not really, she was using the restroom or something.) A guy walked up to the table at that moment (someone I seen my ex dancing with a couple times) and my friend tells me I should talk with her because she’s single now (I didn’t even know she was taken, she’d promised I would be the first to know if she got with someone) and that this is her ex. This comes a day after my friend was telling me that I’m the only real competition he has there, that he’s told all the time by girls how hot I am and all that… So it might be that he’s trying to eliminate his competition… Then my ex came out and we seen eachother pretty much at the same time. My friend was trying that whole night to get her to come talk to me. I had to go for a drive to clear my head, my emotions were kind of raw about having the possibility of her getting back with me through my friend (after having come to the conclusion months ago that it wasn’t going to happen and I should move on.) Hmm. Lol! My emotions were raw - that’s a mild way to put that I was bawling my eyes out driving recklessly along an icy river road at well over ninety miles an hour. But it seemed to do the trick. Got back to the club, rejoined my friends and was able to smile instead of scowl. When I was dancing I caught a glimpse of her sitting at a table. She had this intense look of anger (the kind that seemed to shout that she wanted to throw something at me) and I wasn’t even dancing with another girl, just smiling and having fun. Then the next time I looked over she had another girl on her lap and they were all at it, making out. Yeah - pretty sure that was to try to get to me (considering all the years we were together she told me that was yuck when I’d mention I thought it was hot for two girls to kiss.) When the club was closing down for the night my friend finally convinced her to come and talk with me. My ex touched my arm and said hi/bye then took off over to the bar. My friend was trying to convince her to come to an after club parti, he’d already invited me. She didn’t come… At the party was her ex and a girl my ex works with. Somehow it happened that they both came back to the place I was staying. Her ex was really quiet there. Her coworker was telling my friends (when I took off outside for a while) about my ex and some things she had been saying about me. The unflattering, marginally true kind of things that can be so very one-sided. You know the type. Then the next day I seen my ex at her work and for the first time in months she actually smiled, waved and greeted me. That was such a change up from what I had been used to, normally she looks down or away and tries to ignore me. It made me smile inside. She wanted to borrow the car the day after that, I agreed. But when I was dropping it off the next day and was waiting around to give her the keys she seen me and told me I could have just left the keys, she didn’t want to talk with me. That was really fucked up. That same day, the friend that was trying to hook us back up took me out hiking. He was explaining how my ex wants to get back with me sometimes, and at other times she doesn’t. That she still has a lot of feelings for me. More of that bipolar stuff from earlier in this journal? No. I hear from a lot of women how girls are like that. They get conflicted about what they really want. Later that night that same friend invited me over because he was having a few girls over and they were holding a sexy photoshoot at his place. I thought he was joking, and joked along. But when I got over there I guess that girl that my friend likes was dressing up in some semi-provocative outfits and having one of her girl friends snapping shots of it. Later, after it was all said and done, me and the friends I was staying with the previous night invited her over to their place so we could photoshop her pics and upload them to her email for her. It was hours before it was all said and done… During which I had even managed to finish a P90X workout (not without an audience either I might add.) After I took her home, my friends were all like, “Why didn’t you tell her that those pix were no good and that she should let us take better ones?” I thought they were joking, but I guess they were pretty serious about it. They were sure I would have been able to do it, I’m fairly sure too, but they should have told me before I took her home. How was I to know what they were thinking? Besides, I was trying to get my other friend to be more outgoing and engage her in conversation. The one that likes her a lot. Yesterday I finally got ahold of my sister whom had helped me tremendously throughout this whole divorce thing. Once again she helped me to get my head on straight rather than being so conflicted myself about my ex. That’s not to say I’m not still conflicted, just that I am much less so. What happened to that guy I was around my birthday? The guy who took off to Las Vegas and had such a great, wild time with all those friends of his… Argh! First the holidays, then this. I still have a lot of feelings towards that woman and it’s so unfair. If nothing else, I’d like to be on talking terms. I’d really like to be friends - she was a huge part of my life for so long. The emptiness she left there is like a huge cavity of loneliness and hurt where happiness used to abound. It’s been more than half a year already. I was doing so great until the holidays hit, and all this of course. Last night the girl that seems to like me, that my friend likes, called me up and invited me and my friend over to have some dinner. She felt bad because we had made dinner for her the night before and when we brought it over she was having a bit of drama with her roomie and told us it was a bad time and that she was so sorry. It was an alright night, and the food was great. But again, my friend got really shy and reserved. And the girl was throwing me all kinds of glances and flirting despite my going pheroless and having him use that mystery mix that seemed to be working for me quite well. That’s not to say she didn’t engage him in conversation a couple times, and give some indicators of interest. He still has a long way to go. Apparently I have a lot more coaching to do. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/42 "2010-01-27T21:02:56Z")
> [@](#): > > One of my male friends really likes her, and I’ve been trying to set them up and it’s like she wants me all the more or something. Yeah that’ll happen. LOL. She’s probably used to friend-zoning guys and you are turning the tables on her… Man, you have come a hell of a long way from where you started! You should try rereading some of your earlier posts, you were really heartbroken, now you’re getting over it well and truly. Congratulations to you. I am very happy for you. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2010, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/43 "2010-02-14T15:41:04Z")
So Saturday night I found out my ex was going to the emergency room. I couldn’t help but be concerned. I cared. So does my family, so I didn’t think anything about it when I told my mother. She decided to text my ex. My ex texted me and bit my head off, saying it’s not my place to tell anyone anything about her and this got me confused. She wouldn’t leave me alone, because I wouldn’t answer my phone and finally shut it off. Then she was calling and texting my sister. I decided to hit the club, my sister took me out with some of her friends… With two and a half spritzes of IS, one of IO and a dab of the mystery mix I started dancing. Had quite a few drinks too. My ex continued trying to get me to call her. I broke down right there, what was this that I shouldn’t have been worried when I find out she goes to the hospital? After I calmed down (which took a considerable amount of time) I went back to dancing, determined to get drunk(er.) So many cute smiles being flashed at me, but I didn’t care. Sure, I smiled back but didn’t do anything about it. Well, that’s not quite true. One cutie did convince me (through body language lol!) that I should dance with her. Even kissed her by the end of the night, right after my soon to be brother in law pulled me off the pole as I was about to strip (I had already got my pants undone.) Oh man. Oh well. Haha! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/44 "2010-03-27T18:49:58Z")
My ex may indeed be using and abusing, much as others suggested to me earlier in this thread. _sigh_ She seemed really happy this morning… She finally had the kids stay overnight last night with her. It’s been since Christmas, and a visit like that was long overdo. We actually talked this morning. Like friends. Wow. In other news, I’ve been kind of seeing someone lately and last night I wore some IS and a spray of that Mystery Mix. I was over at her place trying to put her to bed because she had to work in the morning. It was that time of the month for her, so we really couldn’t do anything. She was petting and caressing, and said she just wanted to attack me (sexually haha.) She couldn’t keep off me (literally, lol! She pushed me over onto my back, straddled me and began grinding against me.) That’s definitely something new, compared to IS alone like I was wearing around her before. This has been a quick public announcement from your friendly pheromember, Wolfishgrin. Lol! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/45 "2010-06-17T20:43:53Z")
Being in great physical shape, using pheromones and flirting lightly opens all sorts of doors. Some days it’s really effortless. Spraying on some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) before work means above average to excellent tippage. Wondering how in the world I can make it over to Denver (to see a really cute hottie) sometime soon… ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/46 "2010-06-22T17:28:37Z")
Definitely didn’t know the ladies at work had been keeping track of how I smelled. It was really strange, but two of them sandwiched me as soon as I walked in the door and sniffed at me to see if I “smelled great again” - Lol! [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), maybe my mystery mix. Don’t really know, I just sprayed something on without paying attention before going through the door. I think the mystery mix I have been using is 1/4 IH, 1/4 TUTH, and 1/2 musk cologne. Don’t quote me on that - the label rubbed off. Does anyone have any great mixes they’d like to share or link to here? They’d be appreciated, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/47 "2010-07-02T06:37:45Z")
ROFLFMAO!!! Having sprayed a couple sprays of IH right before heading into work, I should have expected it. But I didn’t… About an hour into my shift I started noticing all sorts of conversations happening all around the restaurant that would never have happened in public like they were. For example: A lady was laughing and having a good old time with the rest of her table reminiscing loudly about their drug use. Definitely have to be careful wearing that stuff! Lol! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2010, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/48 "2010-07-08T06:20:43Z")
So the other day this girl asked me for my number because I invited her to a dinner with a bunch of my friends. She texted me later that night to say she wouldn’t be able to make it. Of course, she didn’t have to text me back or ask me for my number. So taking my number and then texting me so I have her number seems like a set of IOI’s. She also pretty much told me she wanted to go repelling with me sometime, she’s never been. I really like this girl. I also happen to work with her roommate, so I have him there to ask questions about her. I know she’s not with anyone right now.. Her roommate recommends taking her on a hike for a first date. I don’t want to mess this up, and I’m researching into Kino Escalation, Mystery Method and Vin DiCarlo… I have [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/), IS, IH, IO, IJ, TUTH, P83, P79, Molecule F, and a mystery mix (it’s made up of 2 parts musk cologne and either 1 part MX203 and 1 part IH or 1 part TUTH and 1 part IH) which seems to do the trick. I need a little advice right now, I don’t want to fuck this up. Any takers? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2010, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/49 "2010-07-09T14:03:24Z")
Quite a few tallies to this page since I posted last but no responses… Nobody up for giving me advice on this? That’s really too bad. But, not all is lost, anybody could still comment about that girl in the climbing shop. Right now though, I have a report. Not about the climbing shop girl, unfortunately, but it’s worth noting. I stopped into this book shop on main yesterday afternoon before work while I was drying some laundry at a place around the corner. The girl at the desk was cute. I wasn’t wearing any mones, besides those that are all natural and me. I asked her what books she recommends and she took me over and showed me some NF self-help type books (because I told her how I really enjoyed reading books like “Way Of The Peaceful Warrior” and the like.) The topics that the books covered were right down my alley, and she emphasized that she was midway through one of them and had already finished the other. I told her something along the lines of, “OMG, you’re serious? No way! This is the kind of stuff I’m into. That is so weird. I wasn’t even going to come in here even though I used to all the time when this place was across the street… I can’t even talk to you now.” That’s when I turned my back and walked over to a different shelf. She tried to get my attention again, because she felt qualified, and so we talked a bit more before I excused myself and left the shop (panicked, I know. Not because of the girl but because it was working lol.) I might stop in there again sometime soon, just to follow up. It was a good first attempt at picking a girl up and coming across as high alpha. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/50 "2010-07-16T06:07:50Z")
Oh my fucking god! How do you get past all the freaking women around you throwing you puppy dog eyes, touching you, flirting, and everything else? It’s like a fucking transformation over night and almost every woman I strike up a conversation with wants me. It’s so blatant, so often, that it’s overwhelming! It’s not making me attracted to them, it makes me want to avoid them. But avoiding them, taking my attention away seems to fuel them further!! Let me give you some background… Last Friday I took my sister out to one of our favorite clubs and decided to experiment a little with those jealousy switches you hear that women have that work to a guy’s advantage.. So I entered the club all smiles, escorted my sister arm-and-arm around the outside of the dance floor, and then started dancing with her. A guy engaged me in dance battles and we both had a lot of fun, smiling and laughing. Then a girl boobs me from behind, when I turn she has a come hither smile on her face all the way off the dance floor and almost to the door. Later on I was telling my sister about it, and she was like, "Oh, I know exactly which one you’re talking about. She kept throwing me these looks that spoke volumes, like “Why do YOU have to be in this picture? If you weren’t here, he’d be mine girl.” My boss (whether I wear mones or not) tries to get me to feel her body up while seeming to be discreet about it (she’s married.) She tries to qualify herself to me constantly (“My looks are alright, I think I’m a 7, owning my own home and business takes me up another point, being respectable gives another 1/2 point,” etc til she’s made herself out to seem a 9… Which for many men she would be - but being married makes her unapproachable in my book.) The assistant manager (another married woman) wanted to know about my date the other night (I think she was referring to the fun night out I had with my sis.) I start to tell her about it and get interrupted so I tell her I’d get back to telling her about it in a little bit (but never did.) She has become extremely flirty with me, which I respond back with for courtesy sake and now she can’t keep her hands off me. She is literally all hands on now, anytime she’s around me. Touching my chest, shoulders, back, caressing, wrapping her arms around me and taking my arms and wrapping them around her… Running away only seems to fuel more! Aye carumba! While talking with some customers, I was confident, relaxed and let my voice carry - which seemed to fuel all the women in the area to throw me looks of interest. You know, the assessing kind that end with a pleased, “Mmm, I could eat him up” expression crossing their faces. Some of the female customers, anytime I engaged them or their group in conversation, were giving me puppy dog eyes, laughing at things that weren’t funny but were said with a little humor, asking me deep questions about myself and flinging IOI’s. It was so blatant it made me feel uncomfortable! I was talking with a pair of female coworkers at my other work… The cuter one (easily a 9) was trying to disqualify the younger one by throwing her negs then trying to qualify herself to me. Later I was being a playful jerk to the younger one (whom I am not chasing, not because it wouldn’t be nice but because I think of her as too young - I know, fucking crazy right?) and now she’s infatuated. Those are just the some of the things that really blew me away so much that they stayed on the forefront of my mind. There are so many others but it’s late and I have a long day tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 1:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/51 "2010-07-16T13:31:23Z")
I decided to retire that so called “Mystery” mix of mine. I couldn’t figure out, for the longest fucking time, why in the hell all these gays were approaching me - sometimes with their hot lesbian friends to grab my attention first - but it all came clicking together why I would get attention from the girls but never be able to push past that dead-set friend zone they have been pushing me into. It dawned on me after I did a smell test with yet another girl at work. I asked her what she thought of how my shirt smelled (where I sprayed IO.) She liked it. Next I asked her what she thought of my wrists (IH on one, IS on the other.) She really enjoyed IS. Then I pulled out the small ToGo of that unknown mix and sprayed it, asking her what she thought. She said it smelled too effeminate, too girly and that I shouldn’t use that one. It’s been really frustrating trying to dodge one of the gays at my other work. Now hopefully he’ll stop making advances if I simply say no more “Mystery” mix and give that specific bottle away… I have no problem with gays, my best friend’s younger brother and I hang out all the time and are good friends. My sister is lesbian. But when they are constantly hounding me it makes me wants to avoid them because it’s the opposite of why most women like to hang out with them (because neither party wants anything from the other.) I held the philosophy for the longest time that if they find happiness being with someone, who the fuck should care who it is - as long as they aren’t coming onto me. Which they have been, and in force. Do you realize how mortifying it’s been having this happen? I haven’t wanted to post anything about it because I couldn’t figure out the reason why it was happening (I’m hardwired for girls - short, tall, petite, skinny, average, fun, smiling, gorgeous, dripping, hot - that’s it, plain and simple.) To list a few instances off the top of my head: My coworker, then a gay dentist regular that comes and eats at both places I work now, another guy that met me in the club, several customers that my coworker could just identify with his gaydar as flaming and were completely checking me out when I wasn’t looking (and not bothering to tell me until they are gone, and rather than him it’s my boss, whom he told, now coming out of the kitchen while he’s laughing it up in the background because it’s the funniest thing to him as she slaps me on the shoulder and tell me off about how if I don’t like the attention from gays, don’t give it to them.) Yeah, glad that problem has potentially been solved. It got so bad that my last girlfriend actually posted on her Myspace - and I quote - “My boyfriend broke it off with me… I think he turned gay.” WTF?! And I posted exactly that back - “WTF?!” She was like, “I’m sorry - I was angry.” The crocodile hunter really could have made an episode about it - you know how he’s always out to handle some of the worlds worst dangers to man - well he left out man’s ex’s (I can see it now, Steve Irwin approaching my ex with a picture of me on the end of a stick and saying “And here we find Wolf’s ex, the most dangerous thing for him on the planet. I’m gonna poke her with the picture at the end of this stick.. Crikey, she’s angry!”) Lol, at least we broke it off on good terms. I haven’t really seen or spoken to her since, but I know we can be friends after she’s gotten over it. Having turned down the gay dentist guy hasn’t been to my advantage. A good friend of his is the assistant manager of my main place of work and she is making things extremely hard for me. She’s lesbian, and my new-found Alpha persona isn’t helping against her - it’s actually quite the opposite. Of all the coworkers I have, male or female, she is the only one that isn’t even subtly hostile towards me - it’s blatant and intense. I’m fairly sure she hates me for turning down her friend because I haven’t done anything to her. It didn’t start happening until after I turned him down - but I’m not gay. End of story. When you meet a former stripper in your work, turn up your charm to high and somehow she gives you her number without asking for it… Then come to really, REALLY like her - you know you’re not gay. Even more so when she starts talking about how fishing is boring and I mention how it’s not too bad if you have someone to hang out with and she goes off about maybe making out while fishing wouldn’t be such a bad thing… Then later on she picture mails you a picture of herself naked, covering only her breasts with a hand teasingly and you’re sitting back like, “Oh my god. Why the hell does she have to live a whole fucking state away?!” Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Katalyst](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katalyst/32/1415_2.png) [@Katalyst](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Katalyst)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/52 "2010-07-16T14:40:06Z")
You sure that mystery mix wasnt the product mystery boy ? ! 😮😕 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/53 "2010-07-16T14:52:15Z")
> [@Katalyst](#): > > You sure that mystery mix wasnt the product mystery boy ? ! 😮😕 If it was, I stumbled upon the exact recipe by complete accident… I custom made it from some suggestion on the boards here and the label I put on it got rubbed off. ---
**Author:** ![tezza23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tezza23/32/1375_2.png) [@tezza23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tezza23)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/54 "2010-07-16T19:26:32Z")
Hmmm, things been going well for you lately, good to see. That mystery mix is weird shit. Repels straight women but attracts gay men, and smells “girly”? Why would gay guys respond to something girly? Je ne comprends pas. _shrugs_ ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/55 "2010-07-16T19:36:50Z")
> [@Wolfishgrin](#): > > Quite a few tallies to this page since I posted last but no responses… Nobody up for giving me advice on this? That’s really too bad. But, not all is lost, anybody could still comment about that girl in the climbing shop. Right now though, I have a report. Not about the climbing shop girl, unfortunately, but it’s worth noting. > > I stopped into this book shop on main yesterday afternoon before work while I was drying some laundry at a place around the corner. The girl at the desk was cute. I wasn’t wearing any mones, besides those that are all natural and me. I asked her what books she recommends and she took me over and showed me some NF self-help type books (because I told her how I really enjoyed reading books like “Way Of The Peaceful Warrior” and the like.) The topics that the books covered were right down my alley, and she emphasized that she was midway through one of them and had already finished the other. I told her something along the lines of, “OMG, you’re serious? No way! This is the kind of stuff I’m into. That is so weird. I wasn’t even going to come in here even though I used to all the time when this place was across the street… I can’t even talk to you now.” That’s when I turned my back and walked over to a different shelf. She tried to get my attention again, because she felt qualified, and so we talked a bit more before I excused myself and left the shop (panicked, I know. Not because of the girl but because it was working lol.) I might stop in there again sometime soon, just to follow up. It was a good first attempt at picking a girl up and coming across as high alpha. Sometimes it’s better to post on the ‘advise and tips section.’ There’s more traffic there as people constantly going there to keep update with the latest issues. I know, if you had posted your page there. You definitely would have receive feedback. Try it.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/56 "2010-07-18T17:52:14Z")
> [@MVKBUGATTI](#): > > Sometimes it’s better to post on the ‘advise and tips section.’ There’s more traffic there as people constantly going there to keep update with the latest issues. I know, if you had posted your page there. You definitely would have receive feedback. Try it.🙂 Thanks man. Will remember that. In all actuality, the climbing shop girl is a no go. But I have other prospects working for me. This weekend has been exhausting. Not enough sleep… And in trying to hook up a whole new speaker system to my car, my nephew blew my solenoid and have to replace that as well as get my stereo going now. He’s an aspiring electrical mechanic and I try to encourage him in his explorations, but when he reversed the positive and negative on one of the hookups while I was at the club it shorted some things. Never spray [MX203](https://a314.com/product/mx203/) and IJ together (one ToGo spray each to either side of the neck), it brought my mood down and I didn’t socialize much at the club. I danced a little bit but that was it. It didn’t help matters that I had a full day of activity before stopping in but it was almost instantaneous self-effects after spraying. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/57 "2010-07-19T17:27:04Z")
The day before yesterday I was having car trouble… So I was late for work and irate. In the door, I was very direct and walked with a purpose. When the cute hostess greeted me, I stated “I hate car trouble” and clocked in. Well, when I walked into the office so I could get my till money the manager at the time said I could go, “We have it covered.” So I wanted to check my schedule for tomorrow. The alpha air must have sparked her interest, she was messing with her hair like crazy while I ignored her to inspect the schedule. Some background: I have been talking this girl up and found out how we are pretty similar. For example, we both love animals. When the other hostess was trying to get in a word she negged her about her math skills. I think it was some jealousy coming out, she was trying to disqualify the other girl to me. I teased hostess two, “Oh, how cute! Your nose wiggles when you talk, do it again!” _grin_ She was so flustered that she asked me, “How about yours? Does your nose talk when you move?!” I laughed for a good fifteen minutes in my station over THAT one. LOL! So I have induced a good bit of infatuation towards me by hostess two. My target is hostess one though. I’ve gotten at least three solid IOI’s from her and I thought last night would be my time to really grab her attention and maybe ask her out. But I wanted to wait for another perfect moment like the night before (which I blew) after getting some IOI’s. It didn’t happen. At first I went in without any pheromones on like the day before. Nothing. So I went out to the car for one spray IS(x2) and one spray IO to my shirt then back into work… Nothing. Damn. So I decided to go back out and spray some IJ on. Still nothing. At the end of the night both hostesses blew me off without saying goodnight like usual. _sigh_ Now if I cold-call this girl without IOI’s, I’m sure she’s going to consider it a good-guy approach and flake me. So what the hell should I do? I hate blowing my chances before I get anywhere with a girl that - with personality, looks and intelligence - is easily a 10. I wish there was more time to do this with, but hostess one is leaving back to college soon. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 7:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/58 "2010-07-20T07:03:58Z")
So I shaved my mustache off. It’s probably going to be Saturday before I see my target again. I seen the second hostess today. She walked into work (she had today off) and noticed me without my facial hair. If I remember right, she liked it and told me I should keep it when my target commented that she thinks mustaches are creepy. Hostess two seemed angry when she left, and didn’t respond when I told her, “Take care!” as she headed out the door. She ignored me. I didn’t think flirting without actual interest would make it seem like I was playing both… And I guess I have been flirting more with the second hostess because it’s easier (not being interested has given me an edge I shouldn’t have been using, damn.) I’m twenty-seven. The first hostess is in college, I think she’s 20. The second one is still in high school. The first hostess isn’t shy at all. She’s very forward. I have stared into her eyes, and her right back, in most of our conversations. Go figure I would be going for the girl that is leaving for college. I really don’t see any way to salvage a friendship out of this with the girl that ignored me today if everything works out with me and my target. She will probably wind up hating me for not chasing her and choosing the other girl. I never knew casual flirting was such a powerful tool. What gives? I didn’t have near the attention I do when I wasn’t in this kind of mindset. I flirted, and didn’t get anywhere with it. Now I may have actually flamed things into an uncomfortable situation. I don’t know why but it helps to have an outside view of things. Thanks to all you loyal followers of my journal too. It’s not just my journey now, lol! You all get to experience it with me through my writings. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/59 "2010-07-21T16:16:27Z")
OMG. Lol! Last night this petite little cougar (she’s close to twice my age) asked me out on a date. This is the second time. First it was to go dancing at the club. I showed up, but then excused myself because it was late and I just wasn’t feeling it. This time, it’s to go to a salsa dance class tonight. I wouldn’t mind learning salsa - but we really would never be more than friends. She’s probably got a lot of tricks she can teach me if it ever got further but that’s just it. I’m not interested in her that way. She’s a friend. Oh man, I am so ready for this night off. I need it. Working two jobs has me freaking exhausted. Well, that and the high energy I put out to all these gorgeous hotties that come into town. Maybe I need a break from all the flirting. Sometimes I think one of the managers (at the same work that the hostesses are at) likes me. Seeing me talking with the hostesses makes her jealous. It doesn’t happen when a buddy of mine that works in retail does it. Just me. She tells me I should stay in my station. He gets to chat away at them. Go figure. Another of my managers quit after the bitch queen assistant manager working there forced her to write me up a warning over an issue she didn’t agree on. The bitch queen hates me because she’s friends with a gay dentist that got his lesbian friends to ask me if I would go out with him. My gentle turn-down really didn’t win me any points with her (I think she is one of those lesbian friends too and my sister, who’s lesbian, agrees with me.) Still debating on whether I should go down and learn this salsa dancing or not. I don’t want the cougar getting the wrong impression. It’s flattering getting all this attention from multiple girls but it’s exhausting too! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036/60 "2010-07-22T16:17:13Z")
Well, I fucked up and came across with too much of a good guy approach and got shot down by my target. So scratch that she’s my target anymore. Fuck going for anyone in the workplace either, because now it’s going to be awkward working around her and the other hostess. I did take that dance class. It was fun! That one server that invited me didn’t show up, which I am ultimately relieved by. Instead I got all sorts of compliments because I made up moves that worked to the same rhythm and looked great too. I’m a natural dancer, mostly self taught, and that works to my advantage. The only girls in the class I was even remotely interested in seemed already very much taken by “the shufflers” - guys that really had no dance in them. That’s too bad, their girls seemed really into someone that could dance… 🙄 [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wolfs-pherodiary/32036.md?page=4)