# (WOMEN PHERS) Which Women Phers creates the most chaos with men? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 17, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435 "2012-08-17T19:19:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/1 "2012-08-17T19:19:39Z")
I want to know which pheros create the bests results in men? It is fair to state if you are a good looking girl, average or not so good looking, if you are skinny or not so skinny and what is your age range Me… I am 4’11, I am 160 lbs (NOT SO SKINNY)and Im 27.. and Im not pretty persay. I’d say Im like super average borderlining the ugly side… Guys I like never like me, and the ones that like me I really don’t like.. so thats that… Im also not very social. I don’t go to bars, clubs or anything. I pretty much either go to the park with my son ( the darker one in the pic) work (call center), or church (over 7 thousand members). I have an easy going, bubbly personality though despite not being so social. But I am not all squared face and sour either lol. I know phers are not magic or miracle workers, my best choice is plastic surgery but I do what I can with what I have for the time being… I have posted some pics of me… But they will only be up for 24 hours… So out of your experiences : What phers or products have worked more to get more looks from men, more numbers and all that… If you are super hot it doesn’t count lol j/k ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 1:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/2 "2012-08-18T01:36:28Z")
> [@](#): > > It is fair to state if you are a good looking girl, average or not so good looking, if you are skinny or not so skinny and what is your age range Visually I am average, maybe slightly above although combined with my personality and attitude I have been told I am hot as hell. Depends on whose looking. Girl… I am not going to tell you my age. Lets just say my oldest son is a few years behind you so that will give you an ideal. 5’4, my weight fluctuates now quite a bit since I am older. I have to be more careful of what I eat. 130 when I am being real good. 140-ish when I am not. Blond, brown eyes. Before my HCG run I was pushing a higher number then both of those. I am quite muscular though so my actual weight verses my size is deceiving. > [@](#): > > I know phers are not magic or miracle workers, my best choice is plastic surgery but I do what I can with what I have for the time being… I am assuming thats you holding the baby in the pictures. You are not ugly, not even borderline. I think your pretty. You do not need plastic surgery at all. My younger son is leaving for work with my husband and just gave you a 7/8. That’s good. He also said "she’s got a nice rack " Sorry he’s 18 LOL I am not being nice either. If I thought you were ugly I just wouldn’t say anything about how you look. Attitude is half the battle. You got to get your sexy on and I don’t mean visually. Sexy is more of a attitude. When you have that attitude it shows in your body language and your vibe and you project it. The “I am borderline ugly and need plastic surgery” attitude is not going to attract men. Even if you never say it to them you project it. Ok on to mones … I use mones from all over but out of respect for AD I wont suggest other brands here except Steves mixes cause he works here LOL Temptress from MassageXS rocks. I am testing more of his mixes but I keep coming back to this one. EOW… Copulin laced products have gotten me the most attention from men. If I recall you already indicated they make you sick though LOL In scientific studies done by Astrid Jutte men rated the same women prettier when exposed to copulins then they did when viewing them without copulins. It also spikes their testosterone levels and causes a sexually arousal and response which was proven in saliva tests and field testing. When you played with the copulins how did you use them ? Straight, layered, mixed ??? Lets see, P83 gets me a lot of attention. The ISex P83 IH combo does well for me. TAH cops and P83 combo works very well to. Get some pink sugar by aqualina. Amazon sells it. Makes mens eyes roll back in there heads LOL I see a marked difference in the number of hits I get when I use it with my mones. Men just suck it in along with the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) Its highly diffusive and smells delicious. It has a power all its own. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/3 "2012-08-18T09:49:14Z")
Yea I am the one holding the babies. The darker baby is my son Jordan. EOW… Yea they do smell disgusting. I had it on once and my brother asked me why I smelled like rotten cheese lol. hahah I blamed it on the garbage. When I have tried it, I used one drop and shared that drop between my wrists, I have waited for it to dry like an hour and see if the smell dissipates a bit and then sprayed Juicy Couture or Burberry but its like a persistent little smell.. I have also used it with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and nothing.. I don’t know what to think… I don’t understand how any one would think that Cheesy smell is “HAWT” at all lol… But I will try anything… > [@tisha23](#): > > Visually I am average, maybe slightly above although combined with my personality and attitude I have been told I am hot as hell. Depends on whose looking. > > Girl… I am not going to tell you my age. Lets just say my oldest son is a few years behind you so that will give you an ideal. 5’4, my weight fluctuates now quite a bit since I am older. I have to be more careful of what I eat. 130 when I am being real good. 140-ish when I am not. Blond, brown eyes. Before my HCG run I was pushing a higher number then both of those. I am quite muscular though so my actual weight verses my size is deceiving. > > I am assuming thats you holding the baby in the pictures. You are not ugly, not even borderline. I think your pretty. You do not need plastic surgery at all. My younger son is leaving for work with my husband and just gave you a 7/8. That’s good. He also said "she’s got a nice rack " Sorry he’s 18 LOL I am not being nice either. If I thought you were ugly I just wouldn’t say anything about how you look. > > Attitude is half the battle. You got to get your sexy on and I don’t mean visually. Sexy is more of a attitude. When you have that attitude it shows in your body language and your vibe and you project it. The “I am borderline ugly and need plastic surgery” attitude is not going to attract men. Even if you never say it to them you project it. > > Ok on to mones … > > I use mones from all over but out of respect for AD I wont suggest other brands here except Steves mixes cause he works here LOL > > Temptress from MassageXS rocks. I am testing more of his mixes but I keep coming back to this one. > > EOW… > > Copulin laced products have gotten me the most attention from men. If I recall you already indicated they make you sick though LOL > > In scientific studies done by Astrid Jutte men rated the same women prettier when exposed to copulins then they did when viewing them without copulins. > > It also spikes their testosterone levels and causes a sexually arousal and response which was proven in saliva tests and field testing. > > When you played with the copulins how did you use them ? Straight, layered, mixed ??? > > Lets see, P83 gets me a lot of attention. The ISex P83 IH combo does well for me. TAH cops and P83 combo works very well to. > > Get some pink sugar by aqualina. Amazon sells it. Makes mens eyes roll back in there heads LOL I see a marked difference in the number of hits I get when I use it with my mones. Men just suck it in along with the pheromones Its highly diffusive and smells delicious. It has a power all its own. > > Tisha ---
**Author:** ![londongal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6f9a4e/32.png) [@londongal](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/londongal)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/4 "2012-08-21T19:38:29Z")
Interesting post re: Pink Sugar…Ive had married friends ask me about it for their wives- they really like that smell! ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/5 "2012-08-21T19:53:36Z")
Yea I been hearing alot about Pink Sugar and Be Delicious by DKNY, Im definitely ordering it next week. I recommend the new Shakira Elixir. I would normally not buy a perfume like that but I was buying lipstick in the pharmacy last week and the lady checking me out had all the boxes right there, the perfumes had just arrived. Well, so she sprayed some in a little paper and it smelled sooo dam sweet and nice I came back the next day for it. Honestly, I been getting good results from it at work. This guy didn’t want to move from near by, someone said I smelled sweet, another person told me that it smells so good that their eyes are rolling to the back of their head.. and Last night when I was walking off to my car after work I was walking with a group of 7 and they all told me to not walk away because they wanted to sniff me.. 😃 Weirdoooos! I also recommend the Burberry Britt, and the Juicy Couture the plain one, not Couture, Not Viva la Juicy or the Viva la Fleur. But I will be ordering that Pink Sugar. I been hearing so much about it. Thanks … > [@londongal](#): > > Interesting post re: Pink Sugar…Ive had married friends ask me about it for their wives- they really like that smell! ---
**Author:** ![NewBeeri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/85e7bf/32.png) [@NewBeeri](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NewBeeri)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/6 "2012-08-21T22:30:12Z")
Just stopped by the female section for the first time, and while I don’t particularly have anything to add, I just felt compelled to say that you couldn’t be further from ‘borderline ugly’! With those lips/smile? And those eyes? I think you’re cute as hell!! ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/7 "2012-08-21T22:32:11Z")
Thank you, that was a super nice awesome thing to say. 😉 > [@NewBeeri](#): > > Just stopped by the female section for the first time, and while I don’t particularly have anything to add, I just felt compelled to say that you couldn’t be further from ‘borderline ugly’! With those lips/smile? And those eyes? I think you’re cute as hell!! ---
**Author:** ![imorchids](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@imorchids](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/imorchids)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/8 "2012-08-22T07:23:24Z")
I’m new here so I have no advice, but MalicePherU you are super pretty! I’m taking notes too, might drop by the store and pick up that Pink Sugar tonight 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2012, 7:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/9 "2012-08-22T07:41:36Z")
Yea I wish I could get Pink Sugar this week. I have to wait til the other week tho. Thanks for the comments, but to be truthful for some reason I look better in pics than in person. Either way thank u for the comments. Today I received Instant Sexinesss /A, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) / P83 and the freebie was P102 …I am intrigued… ---
**Author:** ![somechick03862](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@somechick03862](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/somechick03862)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/10 "2012-08-31T07:40:10Z")
You are NOT at all borderline ugly! I think you could easily be very hot, as Tisha said, attitude is very important! THINK yourself sexy and it will become a natural state for you. I mix a dropper of EOW in a TOGO size bottle of Pink Sugar. I simply add the EOW and then spray the PS into the TOGO bottle and let it sit for a while. I actually like the smell of the Pink Sugar better with a little EOW. Then I try to spray it where it can just settle onto my skin. If I spray on my wrists and wash my hands then EOW can sometimes come out a little strong. I had it on this AM when I ran into a guy I know and um, well, his reaction to me was visually obvious… I LOVE [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), IH and IO, they seem to make people open up to me and me to them. Some of the Putatives have given me amazing results. I had a couple of guys I have known for years sniffing me one night when I was out. They kept inhaling and telling me I smelled sooooooo good! I was wearing P83 mostly. That is something you need to be a reporting user to get, I THINK(can’t remember for sure), so maybe you should start a journal and report on your experiences. Good luck! It’s a fun journey! ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 10:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/11 "2012-08-31T10:58:02Z")
Thanks to everyone that has replied to the thread. Honestly, I am photogenic, I barely look like my pics in person though but thanks 🙂 To be honest, I can’t say that I have any luck with the phers. I use them like I use one spray of IS/A, the next day two, the next day three, and four and I see nothing. I have done IH and maybe with that I can see a little something but not as much as I would like. I have tried mixing and nothing. I have Tried Desire me since it doesn’t stink that bad and nothing, I have tried essence of a woman and I end up bathing in the sync at work because it straight up smells like ass… I used EOW yesterday for work and OMG I almost died, I sprayed with no exageration in these words half of my Juicy Couture perfume on me to fade away that nasty smell of EOW.. I wiped myself with soap n water in the bathroom sink at work, and then with scented baby wipes… and I kept spraying with my perfume… it was crazy… my room TODAY still smells like EOW… IDK what to do with EOW… lol and to be honest I get no results… my brother makes fun of it and says if a chic every approached him smelling like it he would think that she didn’t bathe… my mom says Im wasting my money in dumb products. And I see like no results. [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) Smells like coconut vanilla so I like it, but I have found that one spray is enough two or three makes me dizzy. Desire me I can deal with the smell I put two drops in my wrist and it dilutes and smells pretty later… I would start a journal but I have like no time for it and then If I saw results maybe I would… 0,o I wish I can see the results that everyone talks about… idk maybe bc I live in Florida the heat affects the way phers work on me. At work I see no difference with no one really… the guy I like is nice one day and chatty other days he ignores me and avoids me… bleh I will be buying PS this week so I will spray EOW in it. ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2012, 12:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/12 "2012-08-31T12:20:23Z")
@somechick03862, Tish23,classicalflower and everyone else that have replied to this thread thanks for the compliments, however, the truth is that in pictures I do look prettier for some reason. Im photogenic but I don’t look much like my pics for some odd reason… :-X Either, I appreciate all the suggestions and the compliments. Suggestions are treasures for me. As far as EOW, Lord knows I try hard to deal well with EOW. Yesterday I put 1 drop behind my ears and one in my cleavage and I was thinking that it would dry out eventually but no, despite me bathing in my Juicy Couture perfume I still caught wiff’s of that disgusting ass smelling EOW. I ended up grabbing a paper towel with dishwasher soap in the bathroom sink wiping it off, then getting scented baby wipes and wiping with it. I sprayed half of my Juicy Couture bottle and I still caughts wiff’s of it. I am gonna’ have seriously dilute EOW with Pink Sugar when I buy it as you recommended. Desire Me is strong smelling but I find it that when it dries down it doesn’t smell half as bad. I will say this though, I live in south Florida and I don’t know if its because of the heat or something down here, but phers do not work on me. I guarantee it. The only ones that I can see some kinda’ reaction to are like [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and IH. I do notice people get more chattier with IH, but I really only spray two sprays I’ve never tried more. When I get Instant Shine on people are nicer to me. But its not like I see a huge difference it can be attributed to coincidence or something. When I wear IS/A I see 0 results, none what so ever. It’s kinda’ sad. I have not noticed any difference with P83, I have done up to two sprays of P83, it smells like Coconut Vanilla and its nice but more than two sprays of that makes me dizzy. I sprayed my boys with it, and they get all touchy with their girlfriends I noticed however no one touches me when I wear it! GRRR The guy I like is confusing as shit, he avoids me sometimes and then he is super nice and chatty. Well, he is always chatty if you chat but sometimes he avoids me. Its not like I annoy him, I don’t I try to not bother him unless it is legitimately business but sometimes he asks me questions or makes side talk even when Im trying to keep a margin, but sometimes he just avoids me and sees me and talks dry as shit like “Iris how are you!” and keeps walking. I don’t know about starting a journal because of lack of time and the fact that I am not really so convinced on this phers. Even the ones that I think maybe work I still have a a little doubt. I don’t have the radical results that most of you get so honestly, I have no idea what to think of it. My family thinks that I am wasting my money. Who knows… 0,o ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/13 "2012-09-03T01:17:32Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t know about starting a journal because of lack of time and the fact that\*\* I am not really so convinced on this phers\*\*. Even the ones that I think maybe work I still have a a little doubt. I don’t have the radical results that most of you get so honestly, I have no idea what to think of it. My family thinks that I am wasting my money. Who knows… 0,o I think this is because your focusing on one target. Pheromones can not force attraction or force him to act on it. You need to look at them on a whole not just at the reaction of this one guy. Be sure to read this thread to help you recognize hits. [How do I know if I am getting hits !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-getting-hits/14192) I noticed you mentioned in another thread that your target guy says your making him nervous or your creeping him out or something because your always looking at him. People tend to make this mistake when they wear mones because they are more focused on seeing hits. Stop it LOL The saying with mones is “set it and forget it” Give your target a chance to respond. > [@](#): > > When I wear IS/A I see 0 results, none what so ever. It’s kinda’ sad. I have not noticed any difference with P83, I have done up to two sprays of P83, it smells like Coconut Vanilla and its nice but\*\* more than two sprays of that makes me dizzy.\*\* I sprayed my boys with it, and they get all touchy with their girlfriends I noticed however no one touches me when I wear it! GRRR If your getting dizzy when you spray it then spray to the back of your body do its not diffusing up into your face all day. I have all different methods of application but if a mix effects me to much this is how I apply. I get naked LOL Spray the air right over my right shoulder and walk backwards through it so it sort of mists down on me. I hold my breath as I do this so I am not inhaling highly concentrated mones. If my dosage is higher then one spray which it usually is then I will do it again and apply the rest to my lower extremities. Belly, forearms, depending on what I am wearing sometimes thighs or behind knees. IS/A my dosage is 3 to 5 sprays. How many you using ? > [@](#): > > I live in south Florida and I don’t know if its because of the heat or something down here, but phers do not work on me. I guarantee it. There is a way around the heat. I guarantee it 😉 Its hot in Florida I know. The heat will make it diffuse faster. How long before you head out are you applying the mones ? I would say with most products you have a 4 to 5 hour window with the strongest hits coming in the first hour. If its going to be a long time before I see anyone I wont apply when I get dressed in the morning. When I get to work I use the bathroom and apply there. I will even take my shirt off in the stall and mist. Slowing diffusion is another method. I have various scented body oils I use that I like. They are light just to moisturize and give that smooth glow. Apply some of that and then immediately spray your mones on top. You may need a little higher dosage then usual but this will slow diffusion down. Sometimes I spray my mones directly into a big gob of scented lotion, mix it with my finger and apply all over. This also slows diffusion. Use something other then juicy couture. I have heard lots of women say it doesn’t cover well. With EOW you need to do a little work to get it perfect. If you really cant stand the smell then just add 1 drop to a 5 ml bottle of something then slowly work up adding another drop a day or so later and so on. I can wear EOW straight and uncovered and it wont bother me a bit but in the beginning I was paranoid I smelled funky. Odd thing is whenever I wear it covered or not people tell me I smell amazing. They don’t process it the same as you do. To you its a foreign smell on you. Oh its going to be foreign to your mother as well. Parents and siblings bond with us pheromonally and tend to pick up on it right away. You smell different and they may say they don’t like it but what they really don’t like is the change it signals. My mother always knows when I have copulins on. She will say Tish why do you smell like you own a brothel and I will tease her and say how do you know what a brothel smells like mother. Mostly remember that usually the minute you stop looking for hits is when they usually come. Just apply and go out and have fun with it. Tisha \*\***[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)** \*\* Instant Honesty, is a communication oriented product from Androtics Pheromone Research. Makes people feel as if they’ve known you a long time, and encourages them to tell you the truth. As strange as it sounds, it often works – you really might not believe your ears! ---
**Author:** ![MalicePherU](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/malicepheru/32/1131_2.png) [@MalicePherU](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MalicePherU)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2012, 3:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/women-phers-which-women-phers-creates-the-most-chaos-with-men/56435/14 "2012-09-03T03:33:39Z")
My comments are below… 🙂 **I think this is because your focusing on one target. Pheromones can not force attraction or force him to act on it. You need to look at them on a whole not just at the reaction of this one guy.** Me: You are right. I try to not look at him but he has this huge voice that you can hear from a mile away its hard not to look up when he comes into our floor. But yea, I can understand I can’t force attraction unfortunately. ((SIGH)) What I am doing now is just not even going to his floor, and just not even looking at him. Last thing I want is to get in trouble at work for causing a supervisor to be uncomfy with my staring. 😮 **I noticed you mentioned in another thread that your target guy says your making him nervous or your creeping him out or something because your always looking at him. People tend to make this mistake when they wear mones because they are more focused on seeing hits. Stop it LOL The saying with mones is “set it and forget it” Give your target a chance to respond.** Yea I definitely don’t wanna’ be “THAT creepy girl.” Though my supervisor says he has to be gay because of what he said. **I get naked LOL Spray the air right over my right shoulder and walk backwards through it so it sort of mists down on me. I hold my breath as I do this so I am not inhaling highly concentrated mones. If my dosage is higher then one spray which it usually is then I will do it again and apply the rest to my lower extremities. Belly, forearms, depending on what I am wearing sometimes thighs or behind knees.** Tish, you are a trip. I have an active imagination, I just kinda’ pictured you doing that but like in a Family Guy cut away gag. **IS/A my dosage is 3 to 5 sprays. How many you using ?** I use like 3 sprays max… its expensive stuff, lol I don’t want to spray it away … I like how it smells and recently I had to order TUTH for my friend at work. Maybe I should order TUTH for me.😕 \*\*Its hot in Florida I know. The heat will make it diffuse faster. **How long before you head out are you applying the mones ?** I would say with most products you have a 4 to 5 hour window with the strongest hits coming in the first hour. \*\*\*\* I’d say that I spray it on like two hours before going to work since I gotta’ be at work by like 1:30pm, and I usually take a shower like at 11AM. One problem I have that I personally hate is that I sweat a lot, a lot. I don’t even gotta’ be doing something or anything and I sweat a whole bunch. I am betting that has a lot to do with my phers not working, too beside the mistake in the gap of time. Though I’ve taken the phers to work and sprayed them at work but by then I am guessing I probably OD’d or something. If its going to be a long time before I see anyone I wont apply when I get dressed in the morning. When I get to work I use the bathroom and apply there. I will even take my shirt off in the stall and mist. ^^Makes a lot of sense. **Slowing diffusion is another method. I have various scented body oils I use that I like. They are light just to moisturize and give that smooth glow. Apply some of that and then immediately spray your mones on top. You may need a little higher dosage then usual but this will slow diffusion down.** Which oils would you recommend? **Use something other then juicy couture. I have heard lots of women say it doesn’t cover well. With EOW you need to do a little work to get it perfect. If you really cant stand the smell then just add 1 drop to a 5 ml bottle of something then slowly work up adding another drop a day or so later and so on.** \*\*Yea, I just ordered Pink Sugar and Be Delicious from DKNY since I saw some other chic recommend it in the forum. I was willing to get somethng like Chanel No. 5 if it would defuse EOW. I need to get a little “to go bottle”, I 've lost my instant shine ones, but I have P104 that I have never ever used and I will see if I use it up and use its little bottle with **Pink Sugar and EOW.** **I can wear EOW straight** and uncovered\*\* and it wont bother me a bit but in the beginning I was paranoid I smelled funky\*\*. Odd thing is whenever I wear it covered or not people tell me I smell amazing. They don’t process it the same as you do. To you its a foreign smell on you. Oh its going to be foreign to your mother as well. Parents and siblings bond with us pheromonally and tend to pick up on it right away. You smell different and they may say they don’t like it but what they really don’t like is the change it signals. My mother always knows when I have copulins on. She will say Tish why do you smell like you own a brothel and I will tease her and say how do you know what a brothel smells like mother. You are a brave woman, Tish. I used it last week and I can tell you that I almost bathed in perfume when I wasn’t at the sink rubbing it off… People kept telling me that I was paranoid. 🙄 **Mostly remember that usually the minute you stop looking for hits is when they usually come. Just apply and go out and have fun with it.** Thanks, I will remember that.