# Women's Favorite Products - Putatives

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812>\
**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 6, 2007, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812 "2007-09-06T09:58:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Mia\_Culpa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mia_culpa/32/393_2.png) [@Mia\_Culpa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mia_Culpa)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/1 "2007-09-06T09:58:11Z")

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Another in the series of product polls for women.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/2 "2007-09-06T10:22:51Z")

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I really have not found a putative that grabs me and says you must buy more of this. I voted for P79 because it amps up mixes that already work and seems to add a little zing to them.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![May](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/may/32/1909_2.png) [@May](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/May)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/3 "2007-09-06T10:41:59Z")

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I voted for [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) - no big surprise there huh?

May

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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/4 "2007-09-10T09:33:07Z")

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Ladies who have had good results with P74 (May, Laurie, Tisha, and Kitten come to mind), **I would be interested in hearing whether you find P74 works more consistently when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ as opposed to it being used alone.** My experience has been that without these other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, the effects of P74 can be a little inconsistent - sometimes it really hits but often it doesn’t. At times, I may find myself not so social while others may be buzzing away (not necessarily to me but to each other). On the other hand when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, it hits pretty much every time, for both me and for others around me.

Below are the positive experiences of some guys who combined P74 with various ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ - nbully combined it with TAL, examine combined it with P79 and P90, and UltraGame combined it with CTTM-M2 (which contains Alpha and Beta Androstenol of course).

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/1)  
nbully79 (April 24, 2007):  
“ **TAL and P74 - More social than the -nols**

I am shocked at how much better these make me feel compared to Alpha Androstenol or beta-Androstenol…never a dull moment with these! 1 spray of [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) (5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) and 2-3 sprays of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) (25-30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) over [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) + The Edge + PF base…can’t keep my wisecracking mouth shut! Added [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2X around 3 sprays to it (around 50 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) and it was seriously over-the-top . People all around me were ribbing at each other, pulling each others legs and looking in my direction to see if I laughed or not (that [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)!) and nobody took it the wrong way. I was the CENTER of attention.

I got a great response from a friend with whom there were some issues in the past. I had been trying [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and other -nols and avoiding -none to calm her down for about a month or two with no avail.  
But the first time I used [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) together she became very friendly-flirty from being stand-offish in the most amazing turn-around I have witnessed!

Now I find it very hard to drop these from any mixes. The impact of these two together is only rivalled by when I first used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). It’s really awesome. Something has to be said about female pheros. I am very interested to try [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/) next.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/4](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/4)  
nbully79 (April 25, 2007):  
“The response from friend who showed a big turnaround was only with [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). The presence of these two is still felt even in my heavy duty phero mix, [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) is -Androsterone dominant, The Edge is -none dominant, PF is -Androstenol dominant. I have very good idea how this mix behaves so adding anything on top, if it has a different reaction, is easy to figure out. These two hardly lay in the background.

Infact yesterday one girl got a proxy hit from my application (presumably [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) at only 5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)). She was sitting about a meter away from me and was getting lots of attention from all other guys in group even though she wasn’t reciprocating to anyone except me. It was definitely not normal for her.

[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) by itself seems like an ideal mix of Alpha Androstenol + beta-Androstenol to me. Chattiness + connection.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/1)  
examine (March 26, 2007):  
“ **P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm!**

so i put about 1/3 of each (10mgs) into a TO GO bottle.

this is what you call ULTRA CHARM. damn.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/7](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/7)  
examine (March 26, 2007):  
“…sorry for the ultra summary i had someone at my house.

ok. so i went to a club friday, and created this bottle. 6 sprays to the neck right after i parked…met up with some friends. this mix is like [mx105](https://pheromonelabs.com/) with [spaceland](https://a314.com/). hard to explain. it was subtle at first, but then it all started coming out. women were smiling like this , i danced with another girl that said i was romantic (not sure how), another one of my friends gave me a hug and gave me a kiss on the neck. every time i would dance with someone, it was like they had tabs on me…things started getting a little aggressive. one of my girl friends wanted to buy me a drink, so we left the dance floor and went to the bar, next thing i know one of the girls i danced with earlier came up, said “i was looking for you on the floor, why arent you dancing” then grabbed my hand and we were back on the floor. (my friend called the next day to vent how disrespectful she was)

another one of my friends, that i messed with a long time ago, text me some real deal xxx biz on my phone. i look up and shes at the bar looking in on the dance floor. LOL.

just too much went on, i could go on and on. but it was a successful night , the girl i met and i went on a date sunday afternoon. then this morning i got a text from another girl (which i was too drunk to remember i gave her my number or how she looked) she sent over a pic on my celly..i remember her, she was hot, but looked pretty easy, the fellas picked up on her (yea she was dressed like whoa), and she got lost in the crowd. not sure when my number was givin. i do remember her talking to a friend of mine.

like i said, the [IOIs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) were as uplifting, bright, obvious as [Spaceland](https://a314.com/), but [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) grabs that energy and turns it into sexuality.

btw the range at this club was 23-33.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/8)  
examine (March 26, 2007):  
“as for my attitude, i noticed i was all over the place. i broke out of my shell before the first shot. it was like i was in cancun or rosarito, and i was there to PAAAARTYAAA. notice, you go to a club to party, but when you are on vacation, its much much different _wink_

i didnt have to spit much game, like talk a good one to dance or any other ‘stuff’ it all just flowed, and was quite easy because of such [IOIs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742). I just played off them.

but thats a rule of mine anyways, you see an [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) you pounce on that sh\*t like an owl on a jackrabbit.

this was my favorite type of [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) the whole evening. seeing people do this ( )

i like when people do that. it makes me do it. LOL”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/8)  
examine (May 3, 2007):  
“[P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) + [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) +P90 is what ive been using for the past couple of months.

such a great every day mix.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90/3742/1\](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90/3742/1%5C) ([P90: if P74 were IO, P90 would be IH, social but a little more serious](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90/3742/1))  
examine (May 18, 2007):  
“If [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) were [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)  
[P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/) would be [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)

its social, but a little more serious, not as much as [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), but for some reason, there is a sense of comfortable social understanding communication. It’s not wacky, but its as if you and a buddy are sitting down talking politics freely, non chalant over a glass of whiskey.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/1)  
UltraGame (June 19, 2007):  
**“[Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) (Mix 2) PRE-RELEASE:** Should possibly be renamed to CHATTER! _Excellent to mix with [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), this will create a super social mix_ and believe me… you will be talked to. The more you use the greater effects you notice, but I have realized it is a quite different feeling to [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). It encourages BS talk!..”

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/5 "2009-03-15T16:12:12Z")

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[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) all the way baby!!! 😃 If Meo-EST was on the list I probably would have put that one though…tough call actually…

P86 will have to come in third for me 🙄

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/6 "2009-03-16T12:22:30Z")

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> [@Xiphoid](#):
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> P83 all the way baby!!! 😃 If Meo-EST was on the list I probably would have put that one though…tough call actually…
> 
> P86 will have to come in third for me 🙄

enough with the meo-est already !!!  
😃😛😃

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/7 "2009-03-17T04:40:33Z")

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My favs in order -

P86  
[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)  
P80  
P79  
P102

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**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/8 "2009-03-19T21:03:04Z")

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My favorites in no particular order (except numerical 😛):

P74  
P79  
P80  
P86  
P90  
P91  
[P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/)  
P96  
P102  
P103

Oh, and I second the _ **ME** _o-est! 😃

Diane

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/9 "2009-05-16T19:23:41Z")

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> [@diane999](#):
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> My favorites in no particular order (except numerical 😛):
> 
> P74  
> P79  
> P80  
> P86  
> P90  
> P91  
> P93  
> P96  
> P102  
> P103
> 
> Oh, and I second the _ **ME** _o-est! 😃
> 
> Diane

wish i could get the meo-est to work for me.  
it doesnt grab me or do anything groovy.

i think i tried huffing a 12.5mu dose 😕

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/10 "2009-05-16T19:30:42Z")

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oh and i have changed putatives…  
im enchanted with P86.  
just ordered a big bottle.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/11 "2010-10-27T16:57:12Z")

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The problem with posting from my phone…I miss threads like this and wind up asking a redundant question. Along the topic and for the benefit of a man’s understanding, what specifically does each molecule do for you in terms both of self effect as well as effects on others perceptions/behaviors with you?

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2010, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/12 "2010-10-30T09:32:22Z")

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> [@Bella](#):
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> My favs in order -  
> P86  
> P74  
> P80  
> P79  
> P102

Most putatives work best for me combined with other molecules. I use them judiciously to steer a mix.

Baking powder makes a cake rise, right? So, logically, it stands to reason that more baking powder should make it rise even higher. But what happens when you use too much? Just the opposite. It sinks. ☹ In _cooking_ exact measurements often aren’t so important in the final analysis. I mean a you can get away with just throwing a bunch of veggies and some leftovers into a pot with a dash of this and a pinch of that spice/herb and somehow come up with a decent soup. But baking is science and there’s a narrow margin for error. Measurement is the key to success. Every ingredient must be precisely measured to insure the perfect balance in order for the cake to properly rise to the occasion. Now I’m hungry, lol.

That said, even the most exacting combination of molecules can garner different reactions with different people/situations. It’s never quite the same outcome every time. Though I’ve managed to hit it pretty close under certain circumstances to achieve relatively consistent reactions/results.

From my own experience and the reactions I’ve had and seen from others -

P86 - Is a softener. It’s _very_ attractive and beatifies me and those around me by giving things a warm rosy glow. Just lovely with Instant Sexy/B, copulins, and a pinch of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Soft and dreamy. Guild the lily with some EST for total adoration.

P74 - A serious attractor that draws people to me. You just wanna be around me even if you don’t quite understand why, lol. There’s a camaraderie vibe to it and it can unify people in a way. Though I don’t find it bonding at a deeper level like I do with Instant Honesty. In fact, I like to wear them together. They have an affinity for one another.

P80 - It feels too masculine to me. I don’t use it, Wolf does. It’s grounding, forceful, and provides punch in a mix. Go easy, especially if wearing it in combination with Androstenone… unless you’re into feelin’ like Oscar De La Hoya. Trust me.

P79 - Ditto. Though I’ve tested it on me numerous times, I react better when Wolf wears it. P79 has energy. It’s a driver, has very forward motion, and is mood directed. It’s not one I’d use or have him use if either of us is feeling outta sorts, cuz it can take you on a trip you ain’t quite ready for. NTK has a good report on how that happened to him.

It can be useful in work situations or, in general, when you want to get your point across. Though remember, it can inspire the same feeling in those around you and may/has led to some rather heated “discussions”. (Search nbully on P79.)

It can also add a nice tactile element to sexual mixes.

P80 and P79 in combination are quite a pair. To me, they definitely need to be combined with other molecules to really pop. Something social, especially, and mindfully combined with other aggressive molecules.

P102 - Is a softener that possesses distinct oral properties that can, from my experience, translate a number of ways. Uh huh. Take her to dinner first and then home for a special dessert that you made yourself. OK, you don’t have to actually make it yourself, but buy something special/decadent/chocolate, lol. I’m sure you’ll _eventually_ get to it. It’s also a great one to spray on when your mother-in-law is coming to dinner.

If you’re interested in some light reading, all these P’s have been used in the reports listed in my sig. 🙂

Bella

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**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/13 "2011-05-30T05:39:23Z")

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Markin’ this thread for informative purposes!

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**Author:** ![ConfidentWoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/858c86/32.png) [@ConfidentWoman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ConfidentWoman)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/14 "2011-05-31T13:38:50Z")

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hmmm. I wonder if p86 will be coming back in stock soon. I have a feeling that it would be a great combo with IS/B for me. If it’s not coming back, any one have any other suggestions that would produce like results?

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**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2014, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/womens-favorite-products-putatives/189812/15 "2014-11-03T07:57:50Z")

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Not sure why this thread just popped into today’s posts, but I’m glad it did. Such a shame that p130 isn’t on the list, it is one of my 2 fave p’s. It is great for melting away anxiety. When I’m stressed, it makes me feel like a whole new person in a half hour. And if I’m around people who are overstressed and are taking it out on me, a few squirts of p130 really takes charge of the situation and tames the offenders right down!

I voted for p96, and I’m surprised nobody has commented on it yet. It’s my “falling in love” molecule. It makes me feel like all is right with the world, everyone is so endearing to me, and makes everyone feel close with each other. Best for one-on-one situations, or small groups of friends in a cozy environment.
