# Woo hooo!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 2, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827 "2007-10-02T03:14:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Willie0524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@Willie0524](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Willie0524)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/1 "2007-10-02T03:14:24Z")
Well, I finally received my To Go’s of Instant Shine and [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). Can’t wait to try out IShine in the morning on the bus to work. I know that is the perfect place to test it because I am a blue collar tradesman living in a white collar yuppie neighborhood, so they are like a bunch of stuck up zombies on the bus. I should be able to instantly detect anything out of the norm. The ride is about 7-10 mins to downtown, so that should give the shine plenty of time to sink into their inflated heads. Also, I should say that I’m an approachable guy, not bad looking, and in great shape and um, 34 years old, but look younger. I _must_ be approachable because I always get people coming up to me and asking me for the time or directions. However, not much of one to start a conversation with a stranger, but can certainly jump on it if someone else initiates it. Oh yes, after smelling Shine, I have an excellent suggestion for a cover scent, not that it is a bad scent, but I think I remember reading how some people weren’t too fond of it. Anyway, I think Euphoria by Calvin Klein, would blend perfectly with it. I have it and it is a nice scent. Not very long lasting though. Now, I just need to figure out where I am going to test Turn Up The Heat. Ah, screw it, I’ll try that out on the bus to work some morning too. Haha…just to see what it does, or doesn’t, do. Well, if anyone wants to give me some last minute pointers, I’ll check back before I head to bed. And if anything strange happens, I’ll report it as soon as I can. So long. Will ---
**Author:** ![Willie0524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@Willie0524](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Willie0524)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/2 "2007-10-02T23:33:24Z")
My results, or lack thereof Well, sadly, I have nothing to report after my first day of wearing a couple of Androics products. Just before I left this morning, I put a spray of IShine on each side of my neck. On the bus to work, I observed nothing blatant, nor subtle. Oh yeah, I brought my IShine and Turn Up The Heat to work with me, so when I get there, I head to the washroom to give myself another shot on the wrist and rubbed them together. I work in a big building and encountered many coworkers during the day like always and noticed absolutely nothing, no compliments on the scent form the ladies…NOTHING!!. Just the usual “good morning” and “how’s it going?”…blah blah. So, before I leave to go home, I give myself yet another shot of IShine to the front of my neck and a shot of TUTH in my hair. I’ve read that first time users shouldn’t mix so they can get a better sense of what the individual products do. So, since I determined that IShine wasn’t doing anything for me alone, I figured if I noticed any unusual behaviour on the way home, I would easily be able to associate it with TUTH. So, on the bus, many ladies around of all ages, one sitting right next to me, but she just read her book the whole time. I was constantly looking around for anything at all, looks, body language, but again, nothing. At least I can say the scent of the IShine lasts because I can still smell it on my wrists where I sprayed it over 8 hours ago. I should also mention that I wasn’t skeptical about this. I was really psyched about trying these out and confident they would work after reading eveyone else’s feedback. Should I let this deter me? If these didn’t work, it possible that all of the other products won’t work either? ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/3 "2007-10-03T00:40:54Z")
Hey Wille, great to hear that you are really eager to try out the new products the all knowing duo of Tater, and Snook once said, and told me. that in the malls, buses and such like that, people are practically trained to zone out, people might take notice, but wont react upon it. Now this might be wrong since it is a bus, but that could easily be the problem there. with the co-workers, i have noticed that if you just walk by someone and say “hello”, “good morning” ect. They will most likely not even notice the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/), because its a walk by, sometimes yes, but they will probably react like nothing happened. In my experience, you cant just get hits of “walk-by’s” if you do, thats great. But 99% of the time, you will really take notice to what the magic juice does when you strike up a convo, and the target is actually talking to you for more than 30 seconds. This way the phero trace will be well noticed by her, and you can see the magic happen, right before your eyes! 🙂 anyways, i hope this helps a bit, and good luck! i am sure you will come to enjoy these products immensely 😃 Cheers, -Quinton ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/4 "2007-10-03T05:08:24Z")
> [@](#): > > the all knowing duo of Tater, and Snook Duo? So which one of us is the superhero and which one is the sidekick? If Snook is Fred, does that mean Im Barney? The q is right. Go try a Starbucks and make conversation. Reps to the power of Q. ---
**Author:** ![q-rock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/q-rock/32/2458_2.png) [@q-rock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/q-rock)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/5 "2007-10-03T05:17:34Z")
hah i dont know tate… its a hard decision.. you both have your attributes that style your self’s in being what your made of. lol like you, your hilarious, and your third person talk is awesome. and snook, well he just knows alot. lol i dont really know lol.. im not saying you two are a team, just seems to be every thread your in, hes in, and vice versa lol.. both of you are super knowledgeable and help everyone 🙂 so i will leave it at that ha -Quinton ---
**Author:** ![Willie0524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@Willie0524](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Willie0524)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/6 "2007-10-04T02:52:53Z")
Nothing today either Well, in 2 days I’ve gone from being open-minded to skeptical. My routine was pretty much the same as in my first report, only I wore more stuff. 3 shots of iShine: 1 to each side of neck and back of neck and 1 shot of Turn Up The Heat to the front of the neck and 1 shot rubbed together on the wrists. I really can’t handle anymore than 3 sprays of iShine at once. Despite the fact that it smells good, it is quite strong and too much of it is unpleasant. I also have to be considerate of the people who are around me all day. Anyway, nothing all day, so then after work I get a call from my buddy and asks me if I want to come along with him and his girl to get something to eat. Nothing fancy, just casual dining. So before I go, I refresh. I gave myself 1 TUTH to one side of my neck and 1 spray of iShine to the other. I get in the jeep with them and my buddy says I smell like a whore on payday. His girlfriend said she would like the smell better if it wasn’t so strong, but they didn’t act weird or kick me out of the jeep or anything, same as always. Kind of makes me wonder if when people OD on phero’s, is it really just the high amount of phero’s or the nauseating excess of fragrance that drives others away? So, at restaurant, lots of people of different ages, plenty of cute female servers from maybe 19 years to early 30’s, and yet again, I never noticed any odd behaviour or anything out of the ordinary. The servers were nice and smiley, but then, they always are…no special treatment or anything like that. Geezzz, you’d think I was wearing Pherlure! Oh well, maybe it’s time to try Instant Jerk, since it’s supposed to be the best “prove it to me” product there is, and right now, I need proof. Or maybe I can just dump the rest of my TUTH To Go on my head in one application to see if people really are repulsed by an overdose, since it does nothing in moderate doses anyway. I would honestly be ecstatic if I saw people avoiding me simply for the fact that I would finally see some results. And in case anyone was wondering, no, I wasn’t expecting these products to get me laid. I just wanted to try it out to see peoples reactions and then decide how to best use it to my advantage based on my observations of these reactions. I really don’t know what else I can do with these To Go’s. I’d like to try the A314 and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), but the A314 is just too damn expensive, especially if it does nothing for me. What to do, what to do… ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/7 "2007-10-04T04:01:21Z")
Taters sorry for the tough love but you need to learn that “Less is more.” Youll be lucky to see anything with your experimentation style. If you have that much fragrance from the pheros, i bet you OD’ed long ago, and youre using androstenone which doesnt wash off easily and takes about 3 days to wear off even with a good scrubbing. If youre determined to have a hard head and not pay attention to the advice posted by so many people on this forum, youre just wasting time and money. Instant Shine is a secondary phero, in my opinion. You have to know what youre looking for to get anything. [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) is easy to OD on and not something you do 3 sprays of. Its a very powerful but also secondary use phero in my opinion. Thats just not how you should build the core of your phero signature. 10 ties and a belt is not a good substitute for a three-piece suit. If youre going to do stuff like that, put on 10 sprays of Turn Up the Heat and go to the bad part of town. Then come back and tell us about it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/8 "2007-10-04T04:13:20Z")
Not only what Tater and so many others have posted previous which I’m not sure if you read or not. Reading your posts I’m going to assume you didn’t. Here’s my question and again tough love: In your posts you are sitting back and doing absolutely nothing and yet you are expecting something. Do women normally flock to you and initiate conversations? I’m betting they don’t. I’m also betting that you have a problem with initiating conversations with women, hence why you are looking for that magical potion that is going to make women initiate conversation, but women don’t initiate conversations they wait for the man to initiates conversation but we’ve already been through that. When you do nothing you always get nothing. You need to start talking to people and initiate conversations otherwise I totally agree with Tater you are waisting your time with pheromones. Now wash yourself off, don’t wear any pheromones, believe me you already have enough on and talk to every girl you see. ---
**Author:** ![Gemfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@Gemfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gemfire)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/9 "2007-10-04T05:08:06Z")
Tater, dude, if IShine is a secondary to you, what are your primaries? I don’t seem to get anywhere with none. And I’m not exactly young, 27, and Asian to boot! IShine seems to work well for me. There’s this one hot Asian American girl, 23, who has been becoming friendlier and friendlier, asking me to go out and do sports with her, when one look at me and you’d know I don’t like anything more active than pool! Then there was this 28 year old Korean American girl who when introduced to me at a party (I was heavy on the IShine), looked me up and down like a piece of meat. And yeah, that never happens to me. Not ever. ---
**Author:** ![Willie0524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@Willie0524](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Willie0524)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/10 "2007-10-04T06:42:15Z")
Oh man, where do I start? Well, I just read through my posts and realized I came off like a bit of a tool. I guess that was just the impatience talking. My apologies. Now, Tater, You said that I may have well OD’d long ago, but isn’t OD’ing supposed to repel people? Like i said, I only wore shine at work the first day and people were niether less friendly, nor more freindly with me. And I’m not just alking about passing them in the hallways, but you know, normal work stuff where you are in their prescence and conversing with them. Also, contrary to what it says on the smartmones site, it didn’t make me feel any different either…I’m not just saying that to be an ass, I would love to say that it did, but it really didn’t. I was just looking for things like well for example, refer to the end of Gemfire’s post above, not that I would expect that at work. Now, Steveo, first of all, thanks for taking care of the gift certificate. Secondly, I have read _many_ posts, including yours. I especially enjoyed one of yours from way back where you took that young chick out for dinner and that dude attacked you and you put him in his place. Anyway, you are right, I haven’t really done much, but in many of the posts I’ve read, neither have they and they mention all kinds of IOI’s, like stares, smiles and body language. That’s basically what I am looking for, anything like that just to give you that little boost of confidence to go for it. You even mentioned things like this if I remember correctly, so why is it so unrealistic for me to expect as much? I’m not just going to interrupt some random girl who hasn’t even so much as made eye contact with me. However, if I notice the slightest interest, believe me, I will act upon it. I thought that’s how this stuff was supposed to work, it gets you noticed and then you take it from there. Anyway, I hope this helps you guys understand me a little better. In the meantime, as per your advice,I will lay off the juice for a few days and start from scratch. Although, Tater, I am curious, what do you think would happen if I wore 10 sprays of TUTH in the bad part of town? Can’t be too bad if you expect me to come back and tell you about it..haha! Keep up the great posts, guys. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/11 "2007-10-04T06:55:25Z")
A314 would be a primary, I guess. The variants definitely are. Instant Honesty or CTTM would be a primary. Ammo is definitely a primary. What I mean by a primary is something that sets the tone for your phero signature. For example, if you start off with A314 and add Instant Shine, youre starting off with a core of respect and adding an accent of youthful vibrance. If you start off with Ammo and add Come Talk to Me, youre starting off with a core of attraction and adding a higher level of interaction. [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) is an accent that ADDS raw sexuality. Androtics has buffered it, but from all that ive read here, it should be used conservatively, generally if you know that your partner is ready for serious intimacy or at the right time of the month. And as Steveo mentioned, you have to interact. You wont hear your doorbell ring and a dozen women will be there waiting to jump your bones. Even if youre talking to everyone around you, youre more playing the odds than anything else. Thats why i speak of pheros in terms of reliability, how likely moderate attempts at flirting will result in usable interest. I wish i had enough space in my signature to put this, but pheros are like training wheels. They give you an edge, sometimes a really good edge, but they arent magic. If they were magic, (1) i wouldnt use them, (2) the US government would consider them arms and (3) most of the people here would be so busy with their harems bringing them gifts that they wouldnt be posting anything. Gemfire, IShine can get you hits but if IShine gets you hits, Tater would guess that you need to expect others to be friendly. Thats what IS does for me, makes a bit more cheerful and expecting of good things. If IShine alone works well for you thats great, but i bet you can get a lot more mileage out of finding another phero to use as a primary. Have you tried Ammo, A314, Instant Honesty, CTTM or MX102-105? The Ninja is a bit younger than you, but have a look at his reports. Hes a great guy and really knows a lot about this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Gemfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@Gemfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gemfire)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 7:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/12 "2007-10-04T07:07:57Z")
Don’t get me wrong. Those hits were not instantaneous. I’m in grad school, dude. Those two girls have been in my class for a few weeks when that happened. The 23yr old, I’ve known for a few weeks, and the 28 yr old, at the time of introduction, had already seen me around for 2 weeks in class. And yes, I’ve been moned up in class since the semester started. I think different mones work on different people anyhow. The 23 yr old only started reacting to me when I switched from Chikara to IS. ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/13 "2007-10-04T07:08:30Z")
No need to apologize. Were all here to explore. Its just a bit annoying when the wisdom of all the people here is available for you to search and youre doing the opposite of what we recommend. I spent almost two months reading the forum before i made my first post or placed my first order. The wisdom i got from old-timers like Tacitus, GWtWind, Jasmin, MHarris, Visionary, capone, Tisha, Lor, and many others has made it rare that i have a BAD phero day. And even when i do, i generally know what i did wrong. Tater wishes MX103 were available to newcomers. I wish you had the 5 pheros i normally recommend. Are those the only two you have? Why dont you read my journal? [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) makes you, and other men around you, combative in high dosages. You would be very likely to get into a fight. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/14 "2007-10-04T14:25:20Z")
> [@Willie0524](#): > > Oh man, where do I start? Well, I just read through my posts and realized I came off like a bit of a tool. I guess that was just the impatience talking. My apologies. > Now, Tater, You said that I may have well OD’d long ago, but isn’t OD’ing supposed to repel people? Like i said, I only wore shine at work the first day and people were niether less friendly, nor more freindly with me. And I’m not just alking about passing them in the hallways, but you know, normal work stuff where you are in their prescence and conversing with them. Also, contrary to what it says on the smartmones site, it didn’t make me feel any different either…I’m not just saying that to be an ass, I would love to say that it did, but it really didn’t. I was just looking for things like well for example, refer to the end of Gemfire’s post above, not that I would expect that at work. > Now, Steveo, first of all, thanks for taking care of the gift certificate. Secondly, I have read _many_ posts, including yours. I especially enjoyed one of yours from way back where you took that young chick out for dinner and that dude attacked you and you put him in his place. Anyway, you are right, I haven’t really done much, but in many of the posts I’ve read, neither have they and they mention all kinds of IOI’s, like stares, smiles and body language. That’s basically what I am looking for, anything like that just to give you that little boost of confidence to go for it. You even mentioned things like this if I remember correctly, so why is it so unrealistic for me to expect as much? I’m not just going to interrupt some random girl who hasn’t even so much as made eye contact with me. However, if I notice the slightest interest, believe me, I will act upon it. I thought that’s how this stuff was supposed to work, it gets you noticed and then you take it from there. > Anyway, I hope this helps you guys understand me a little better. In the meantime, as per your advice,I will lay off the juice for a few days and start from scratch. Although, Tater, I am curious, what do you think would happen if I wore 10 sprays of Turn Up The Heat in the bad part of town? Can’t be too bad if you expect me to come back and tell you about it..haha! Keep up the great posts, guys. Willie, you’re not coming off as a tool and if my post sounded harsh it was. Not because I think you’re a dope, but from reading your posts it sounds as if (to me) you are looking way to hard for something when I am almost certain that it’s been staring you in the face the whole time. Work is not the best place to test these as said in a previous post. The other thing is stop looking all together for any IOI’s and start out by simply learning about the self effects. For all things pink and squishy please do yourself a favor and remember we are talking about extremely subtle little hits that are usually invisible to the neked eye. OK so here’s an assignment: get very trusted friend preferably female and let her point out the IOI’s to you. I thought I was great at it until I went out with a female wingman and wow, was I fooled by my stupidity. I missed tons of stuff. Tuff love, but only because I want you to succeed. ---
**Author:** ![Willie0524](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@Willie0524](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Willie0524)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/15 "2007-10-05T03:56:15Z")
Hey again. Well, thanks for the link to your journal, Tater, but that was actually one of the first things I read here. Entertaining and informative, and yes, IS and TUTH are all I have…but not for long! I just went on an Androtics shopping spree! Well, after seeing your list, you might not consider it much of a spree. It’s a 3 payday month for me and the 3rd payday is pretty much disposable, so I thought what the hell and went and ordered A314, and To Go’s of IFM, Ammo and [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)…I just have to try that out for the hell of it. The MX102/3 sounds pretty interesting. Hopefully I can work my way up to it soon. Anyway, I’m gonna put my TUTH and IS on hiatus until the new order arrives. I’ve just been reading more posts and it seems like quite a few other guys didn’t feel the effects of IS either and a couple of them also mentioned not getting anything from IFM, so I wonder if I made a mistake ordering that? Oh well, seems like it has worked for more than it hasn’t. So, Steveo, I guess i will have to put my “assignment” on hold for a while. You mentioned I shoud have a female friend as a wingman…I am guessing because a female would pick up on IOI’s better by maybe relating them to how she would react to someone she was attracted to? Am I right? Oh yeah, the system rejected my gift certificate number, but I made a note of it in my order…no big deal anyway. One more thing…I can’t find this spaceland and come talk to me that I see mentioned here so much. Where do you find this? ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 9:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/woo-hooo/5827/16 "2007-10-06T09:23:43Z")
Togos are a wonderful thing. Best thing you can do is get a togo of all the SmartMones products, using your gift certificate. I try not to invest in a bottle of anything unless im exceptionally sure it works for me.