# Working Out or Older Age? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 30, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/working-out-or-older-age/67748 "2018-09-30T07:21:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![smoothplayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@smoothplayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smoothplayer)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/working-out-or-older-age/67748/1 "2018-09-30T07:21:42Z")
To those of you who workout intensely, do [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) wear off more quickly after a heavy weight lifting or intense cardio session? After sweating a lot, does that essentially wipe away the mones from your skin? Or do mones become less easy to remain on your skin when you are in really good shape? It just seems to me that they wear off very easily, and I also can’t really ‘smell’ the -none any longer. I can’t tell if it’s because of my intense physical fitness recently or if it’s due to my older age (mid-30s now). Perhaps older age requires more mones? In the past, I would OD very easily, but these days it seems it’s nearly impossible to OD. I don’t have to take any days off of mones, because after working out, it’s like I’m wearing nothing, everything is just cleared from my system. And yet, the effects are far less pronounced. I have to use a lot more to get the same effects I was getting before. Probably because before I wasn’t sweating them off so easily so I was likely using more than I realized before? ---
**Author:** ![Dee\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7bcc69/32.png) [@Dee\_A](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dee_A)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/working-out-or-older-age/67748/2 "2018-10-01T00:55:30Z")
I’ll respond based on what’s been reported. Sweat does contribute to wear off quickly the mones off your skin. But it does not wipe away the mones. Whether you’re working out or you’re simply out in a hot/humid environment, or in any place that makes you sweat a lot, mones diffuse quickly because of the heat. And when you wipe away the sweat with your towel or anything, that’s when some of the mones are being wiped off too. There is a minimal number of sticky molecules though that simply wiping won’t take it off your skin. Regarding OD, age indeed is a factor. Based on feedbacks, mature users have higher mone tolerance. You can check out the posts of some mature users here like Mobocaster to understand directly from a fellow community member the reason why. Another factor is the state of one’s body and health. If you are athletic and work-out a lot, then there’s a possibility that you’ll only need a minimum amount of none-based pheromones to augment you. Otherwise, 2 or 3 sprays/drop won’t send you to the OD territory. Why don’t you check out and try the Dark Water over the Androtics dot com? I’m sure you’ll like it. 🙂 > [@smoothplayer](#): > > To those of you who workout intensely, do pheromones wear off more quickly after a heavy weight lifting or intense cardio session? After sweating a lot, does that essentially wipe away the mones from your skin? > > Or do mones become less easy to remain on your skin when you are in really good shape? It just seems to me that they wear off very easily, and I also can’t really ‘smell’ the -none any longer. > > I can’t tell if it’s because of my intense physical fitness recently or if it’s due to my older age (mid-30s now). Perhaps older age requires more mones? > > In the past, I would OD very easily, but these days it seems it’s nearly impossible to OD. I don’t have to take any days off of mones, because after working out, it’s like I’m wearing nothing, everything is just cleared from my system. And yet, the effects are far less pronounced. I have to use a lot more to get the same effects I was getting before. Probably because before I wasn’t sweating them off so easily so I was likely using more than I realized before? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2018, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/working-out-or-older-age/67748/3 "2018-10-01T19:42:04Z")
Yes, sweat/excess body heat does contribute to a faster breakdown and yes, as we age, our natural production changes and different mones or a different balance of mones become more effective. So its probably time to test to re-evaluate your doses and which mones do best for you. I’d suggest that at very least, your effective Androstenone dose will need increasing, maybe substantially. ---
**Author:** ![datadragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/datadragon/32/1252_2.png) [@datadragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/datadragon)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/working-out-or-older-age/67748/4 "2018-10-06T00:02:19Z")
Hi there SP, Normally when we exercise, it will trigger cortisol/dhea and then adrenaline output and your base pheromone levels would actually increase. At some point those who workout regularly who naturally have lots of lean muscle, a person can naturally come off even intimidating, people saying things like ‘Am I in your way’ from 5 feet away and young girls running away or ‘OD’. During that time they naturally may not need more of the alpha mones such as whats in ammo, a314, or tuth and might even need some socials to bring their signature down to be more approachable or get younger women to respond again. But as you get under more stressors which can happen more as well as you age, this can be many things such as heavy metal exposure, wifi/emf, toxins, chemicals, physical or emotional stress, xenoestrogens from plastic, alcohol, caffeine, or cannabis use, too much heavy exercise, being vegan etc it ultimately lowers your magnesium and dhea. cortisol/adrenaline output and sweating may lessen and ultimately your pheromone levels go down. So as that occurs regardless of age, a persons base signature is lower and therefore will find using a higher dose of alpha leaning pheromones such as ammo, a314 or tuth and less of the social/buffer pheromones such as an IS, IH, IO types will bring them more into the range that they will get better ‘hits’ from others. At the lower range you will see hits from none, then young women and younger white women, then more hispanic, and when your signature is higher its more older and black, then none. Think of it like a thermostat that people respond to certain ranges rather then sexual mones = sexual attraction for all. Asians generally respond when your androsterone is high but the androstenone is low so you may find hits more from asians as well depending what you apply. When you sweat, some of the pheromones will come off, however some of the androstenone typically sticks around up to 1-2 days even after a shower, sweating, or trying to clean it off which can modify results on later applications because now you have the residue adding to what you put on and your base as well. This is more important to understand when you have naturally higher levels, not when your levels are currently lower. Test without working out for a week to see.