# Worst mix ever: none, TUTH, TAH, TAL and P79 got me yelled at all through dinner **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 2, 2007, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/worst-mix-ever-none-tuth-tah-tal-and-p79-got-me-yelled-at-all-through-dinner/3462 "2007-05-02T02:51:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 19
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2007, 6:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/worst-mix-ever-none-tuth-tah-tal-and-p79-got-me-yelled-at-all-through-dinner/3462/19 "2007-05-05T06:49:03Z")
> [@perronec](#): > > What are you guys using to taper the the -none off? I have some heavy -none products (instant jerk, Turn up the heat, ammo, Instant gentleman etc.), but im a little careful about using them, because im 22 and afraid of an OD. any suggestions? > > Spin > [@sigma](#): > > Androstadienone and alpha Androstenol work well. any social or comfort type pheromones should do well. > > The androstenone products offered by AD are pretty tame (not thats a bad thing) relative to others (except for RAW Power). Primal Instinct and NPA are far more concentrated. Those were products that caused a lot of OD problems for me. Ammo and Turn Up The Heat were far leess problematic…theres less to worry about. > [@nbully](#): > > -Androsterone seems to tame the -none like no other! Also Alpha Androstenol and Androstadienone as Sigma mentioned. I guess a number of products/pheromones tame Androstenone: - A314 - straight Androsterone - WAGG - Androstadienone/IFM - P93 possibly at least for women (see toilofday’s P93 post that I have pasted in below). Just don’t go too high on any of these ‘tamers’ or you’ll lose the ‘sexual’ edge that Androstenone gives. > [@MX201/P93 with Shine and MX211 at a bar: social or sexual effect?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx201-p93-in-action-social-sexual/2342/27): > > ok so looking at this again I realized I didn’t fully explain the difference in hits between men and women. I don’t even remember what i’v written in the begining of this thread, so bear with me if I end up repeating myself. With women, I have notice that they are mildly uplifted. They seem to enjoy my presence. The first test I had there was a decrease in personal space with my female friends and so far I have notices reductions in space when wearing it in my normal mix. Then again there a… "…In regards to -none and [p93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) on women. Everytime I used a -none based product people seemed stand off ish, even with my first few runs of [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). So I began using [p93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) shortly there after with my -none mixes. (that was the plan initialy but I had to test [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) by it’s self a few time first) The problems that I normaly associate with -none seem to vanish when using [p93](https://a314.com/product/p93/). Don’t be confused by that. I doesn’t change the [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) ranges of -none. It’s not going to allow you to wear more than you normaly could, it just helps facilitate the effectiveness. BTW i’m I don’t like -none. It fogs me over at times, but with [p93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) i’ve developed a fondness for it…" --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/worst-mix-ever-none-tuth-tah-tal-and-p79-got-me-yelled-at-all-through-dinner/3462)._