# Wow — on mutant A314, working out, and my body and confidence are running superb **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 4, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416 "2007-01-04T17:00:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Calimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Calimist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Calimist)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/1 "2007-01-04T17:00:04Z")
i have been using mutant a314 recently and also dealing with some girls, normally im really shy, but now i feel really confident and i take protein, drink lots of water, workout, and exercise with a game called dance dance revolution my body is running superb, i actually smell my sweat and it smells damb good(im debating of not using deoterent) my sinuses cleared up alot and everyone treats me good even without pheros, i feel my muscles growing rapidly so i ate alot of protein and drink lots of water and it is the best fealing in the world, when im walking i can tell that people look up to me and i even have been told i look good with my hair not done, i see a difference in the way people act around me so much i wake up early now and go am tired at night (i normally have insomnia) well this stuff works really good alot of guys around me get mad and they dont know why lol but i do, even the people i looked up to it seems as if they are looking up to me now i feel so good i dont even know what to say ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/2 "2007-01-04T18:03:17Z")
Mutant A314 works really good. I like it much more than my original A314. How much have you been using? For me 1 drop=Attraction, 2 drops=Respect! > [@Calimist](#): > > i have been using mutant A314 recently and also dealing with some girls, normally im really shy, but now i feel really confident and i take protein, drink lots of water, workout, and exercise with a game called dance dance revolution > > my body is running superb, i actually smell my sweat and it smells damb good(im debating of not using deoterent) my sinuses cleared up alot and everyone treats me good even without pheros, i feel my muscles growing rapidly so i ate alot of protein and drink lots of water and it is the best fealing in the world, when im walking i can tell that people look up to me and i even have been told i look good with my hair not done, i see a difference in the way people act around me so much i wake up early now and go am tired at night (i normally have insomnia) well this stuff works really good alot of guys around me get mad and they dont know why lol but i do, even the people i looked up to it seems as if they are looking up to me now > > i feel so good i dont even know what to say ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 6:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/3 "2007-01-04T18:23:03Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Mutant A314 works really good. I like it much more than my original A314. > How much have you been using? **For me 1 drop=Attraction, 2 drops=Respect!** Definitely a note that all need to jot down! True and nice input, Nbully! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Calimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Calimist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Calimist)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2007, 9:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/4 "2007-01-04T21:34:31Z")
i used it for a few weeks when i was born my mom was smoking when she had me pritty much and around me my whole life so i think my sensers in my nose diddnt pick up anym pheros, so i was a very good kid the best at everythign but i just couldnt do anything with girls, when i had a gf i started protein and i went bypolar, now i did protein and i acted kinda bypolar wierd but i detoxed my body by playing ddr and drinking lots of water, and the protein so i think my body got back into sinc and i have the best sence of smell now, no snot at all, i saw my neigbor that i never talked to and aproached her, i knew she liked me but anyways i talked to her and solved her problems and she then walked to the door with happyness, i dont wear pheros but when i walk i feel like im growing like my arms seemed pumped to me but i guess not i notice girls snif the air around me, i saw a guy running and i stoped him to talk about pheros and he blew up saying he diddnt need anything when i walk it is as if i am a bodybuilder i wet the bed until i was 11 i think i diddnt get all the pheros i needed to properly tell my body how i feel i was in the hospital and i asked a guy that was bypolar if he wet the bed and he said he did ---
**Author:** ![Dragonslayer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/82dd89/32.png) [@Dragonslayer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dragonslayer)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/5 "2007-01-05T02:35:36Z")
what do u guys mean by mutant A314, never heard of it and where can i get more info. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/6 "2007-01-05T02:41:41Z")
[A314 Irregular White Cap :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct/SmartMones](https://a314.com/) It’s an irregular batch of A314, slightly over strength (about 125%) than the classic concentration of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in A314, but missing one of the pheromones in the regular consumer version. I use it, it’s been excellent for my purposes – can’t compare to classic myself, have only the whitecap. ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/7 "2007-01-05T02:54:07Z")
**Omega-3 for Depression and Bipolar Disorder** **H** ave we been fishing in all the wrong places for the magic bullet for **depression** and **bipolar disorder**? Have scientists been turning a blind eye to a well-known elixir that works well for other diseases and conditions? Ever since psychiatry threw Freud and his couch in the rubbish bin a couple of decades back, the profession has been oriented toward prescription drugs. Now, their focus appears to be widening. In 1999, a Harvard University study generated a buzz throughout the bipolar community with the prospect of a natural substance that worked - fish oil. After years of being bombarded by industrial-strength pharmaceuticals and toxic salts, people with bipolar disorder and possibly depression could possibly look forward to a kinder and gentler treatment. **What We Know About Omega-3** In 1996, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a study comparing the prevalence of depression across ten nations. The survey yielded eye-opening results in showing how the lifetime and annual rates for depression vary widely from country to country (eg 1.5 in every 100 adults in Taiwan experience depression in their lifetimes while the figure is 19 for every 100 adults in Beirut). A 1998 study published in The Lancet compared this data with fish consumption, finding the higher consuming populations experienced less depression. A 2003 study published in the American Journal of Psychiatry compared similar cross-national epidemiological data - this time involving bipolar disorder - and seafood consumption, again finding a strong correlation. The working ingredient of **fish oil** is omega-3, a polyunsaturated fatty acid which is also found in certain plants such as flaxseed, pumpkin seed, and walnuts. According to [Joseph Hibbeln MD](http://antenna.nl/nsmd/870.html)of the NIH, who authored the two fish-consumption studies: “In the last century, [Western] diets have radically changed and we eat grossly fewer omega-3 fatty acids now. We also know that rates of depression have radically increased by perhaps a hundred-fold.” In a NY Times article, Dr Hibbeln noted: [ul] [li]Infant monkeys fed baby formula supplemented with omega-3 are stronger and more alert even at less than a week than monkeys given standard baby formula.[/li][li]Depression is 60 times higher in New Zealand, where the average consumption of seafood is 40 pounds a year compared to Japan, where a person consumes nearly 150 pounds of seafood a year.[/li][li]Postpartum depression is 50 times more common in countries with low levels of seafood consumption. During pregnancy, a woman’s body becomes depleted of fatty acids, which are transferred to the fetus.[/li][li]Omega-3 seems to be critical to the growth and maintenance of brain cells, especially cell membranes.[/li][li]When omega-3 is not available, the body uses omega-6, which produces cell membranes less able to cope with neurotransmitter traffic.[/li][li]And of course the famous 1999 Harvard pilot study.[/ul]We eat far greater amounts of other damaging fatty acids. A healthy diet should provide for at least five grams daily of essential fatty acids, divided between omega-3 and omega-6. [/li] A quick Medline search turns up several studies that show depleted omega-3 levels in the blood, cell membranes, and brains of depressed patients, suggesting that an intake of omega-3 could help reverse the process, though this has yet to be proved in large-scale clinical trials. **The Omega-3 Bipolar Disorder Study** The 1999 Harvard study that started it all was conducted on 30 patients with bipolar disorder, generally in stable condition but with a history of relapses (all had experienced bipolar episodes over the past year). All but eight of the subjects were on medications, which were left unchanged. Half the subjects were given 9.6 grams of fish oil capsules, the other half received olive oil. Andrew Stoll MD, who conducted the study, admits the olive oil, which did not have a fishy taste, was not a perfect placebo. In one case, a person’s cat actually attacked the fish oil capsules. But, as he jokingly confessed in a session at the 2000 DBSA annual conference, “you want a flawed study. That way, you get money to do another study.” The trial was supposed to go on for nine months, but was stopped after four due to its outstanding results, with the omega-3 group staying in remission significantly longer than the placebo patients. By two months, half of the placebo group had dropped out compared to two in the fish oil group. The omega-3 group actually did less well in lowering their mania scores than those taking placebos, but fared much better getting their depression down. Some patients experienced nausea, diarrhea, and fishy aftertaste, not surprising considering the high doses. Currently Dr Stoll is conducting a much larger and longer (three year) study that should conclude fairly soon. Other researchers are undertaking their own studies. **Other Omega-3 Depression and Bipolar Disorder Studies** These include: [ul] [li]Eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) is one of the active ingredients of omega-3 fish oil. An Israeli study of 20 patients with major depression found that EPA resulted in “highly significant benefits” compared to a placebo by week three.[/li][li]A 2001 study of 70 depressed patients who had not responded to other treatments were randomized into three groups taking different doses of refined EPA (one, two, or four grams a day) or a placebo. Six of the 52 patients on the EPA dropped out before 12 weeks. The one gram group did “dramatically better” than the placebo group, but surprisingly the two and four gram groups fared only modestly better than the placebo group. Much higher doses (eight to 10 gm/day) have been found effective in treating bipolar.[/li][li]The higher dose paradox was borne out in a 2003 Stanley Foundation Bipolar Network study of 59 depressed bipolar patients, which found that those on 6 gm/day EPA did no better than those taking the placebo over four months, with CGI-BP depression scores dropping from 4.1 to 2.7 for EPA vs 3.6 to 2.7 for the placebo. A second study on 62 rapid-cycling patients produced similar results. [/li][li]An NIH study tracking 14,541 women from their eighth week of pregnancy to eight months after giving birth found those who had no seafood - rich in omega-3 - had nearly twice the rate of depression as those who ate 10 ounces of fish daily, leading the authors to conclude: “Omega-3 fatty acids have beneficial health effects with no adverse side effects.”[/li][li]A Finnish/National Cancer Institute [survey](http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/3/567) of 29,133 Finnish men, aged 50 to 69, has found that “there were no associations between the dietary intake of omega-3 fatty acids or fish consumption and depressed mood, major depressive episodes, or suicide.”[/li][li] A 2003 Chinese [study](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12888186) of 28 patients with major depression found that those taking 9.6 grams/day of omega-3 had “a significantly decreased [Hamilton] score” after eight weeks.[/ul] **More on Omega-3** [/li] The two active ingredients of omega-3 fish oil are **EPA** (eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid). EPA is considered to be the ingredient with the therapeutic effect, so it is important to buy omega-3 that contains more EPA than DHA. A pilot study of EPA on depressed patients produced a beneficial effect while in another study DHA proved a total dud. Fish oil has been highly touted as a prevention for heart disease and a host of other ills, so there was a ready-made supply on the market long before Dr Stoll’s study. At a seminar at the May 2004 American Psychiatric Association’s annual meeting, Jerry Cott PhD, an FDA researcher, had this to say about omega-3. Omega-3, he said, is a fatty acid that appears to work much like a calcium channel blocker. Not uncoincidentally, he related, Joseph Hibbeln MD of the NIH, who has led the way in omega-3 research, had been working on a calcium channel blocker study. Omega-3 competes with its sister fatty acid, omega-6, for the same enzyme chain. From there, omega-3 and omega-6 are metabolized, then stored as highly unsaturated fatty acid in tissue phospholipids.. The ideal ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 is one to one, but with modern diets favoring omega-6 at 20 to one it’s fairly obvious which fatty acid is going to win the battle of the enzyme chain. Less may also be more. Large doses may result in oxidative stress as omega-3 is being metabolized.. This may explain why some studies using EPA (see above) failed at higher doses. Accordingly, Dr Cott recommends omega-3 be taken with vitamins C and E. Dr Stoll also recommends taking vitamins C and E with omega-3 (1.5 to 3.5 grams of omega-3 a day, taken with food). He does not suggest using cod liver oil, as high amounts can lead to hypervitaminosis A. In buying fish oil, make sure you receive a 90 percent concentration (in the past only 30 percent was available.) Be sure it contains more EPA than DHA, and that it has no heavy metal concentrations. Dr Stoll recommends fish oil capsules over a diet of cold water fish such as salmon or tuna, citing toxic ingredients as a reason for not going with fish. Even one can of tuna a week is too much, he asserts. [Andrew Weil MD](http://www.pathfinder.com/drweil/qa_answer/0,3189,1715,00.html) - the natural health guru recommends eating fish twice or three times a week, and cautions against capsules that may contain toxic contaminants. Both doctors agree that any fish you eat should be ocean fish rather than farm-raised fish. This is because omega-3 travels up the food chain from algae, while farm-raised fished are fed grains, which do not contain omega-3. Dr Stoll also favors fish oil over flaxseed oil, as fish oil is more proven at this point. Dr Weil says it’s okay to go with flaxseed oil, which will make vegetarians happy. **Flax** An article in the Minneapolis Star Tribune waxes eloquent on the benefits of flax, which is rich in omega-3. The Emperor Charlemagne was such a great fan of the grain that he required his subjects to eat it. Ground flax seed can be sprinkled on yogurt and a dash of flax oil can fortify a smoothie. According to the article, flax seed contains just one type of omega-3, so it is advisable to keep eating fish. Most capsules contain 1,000 mgs of flax oil, although it is not yet clear how much flax the body needs. Flax seed is also a rich source in ligands (which may prevent some hormonally-related cancers) and fibers (the oil alone does not have ligands or fiber). If you buy flax seeds, be sure they are ground or that you grind them, as the body cannot digest the seed’s outer hull. The active ingredient in flax oil is alpha-linolenic acid, which is converted to EPA and DHA in the body. **Finally** Whether as fish or flax oil, omega-3 has a blood thinning effect, but this is weaker than aspirin. Please notify your doctor before you use the two together, and stop taking if you feel any ill effects. Finally, keep in mind that although omega-3 looks like a promising way to treat depression and bipolar disorder, there are no major clinical trials to guide us. We are barely aware of its putative efficacy, much less its optimal dosage, much less how it actually works on the brain. Accordingly, omega-3 should be considered a complement to medications rather than a replacement, and should not be taken without first consulting your doctor or psychiatrist. Buy Andrew Stoll’s [The Omega 3 Connection](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684871386/qid=984864472/sr=1-1/mcmansdepresandb) from [Amazon.com](http://Amazon.com). For free online issues of McMan’s Depression and Bipolar Weekly, email meand put “Sample” in the heading and your email address in the body. For how to incorporate omega-3 into your diet, including the right kind of beef, please click [here](http://www.mcmanweb.com/article-13.htm). Updated Aug 10, 2004 [Lifestyle-Alternative](http://www.mcmanweb.com/lifestyle-alternative.htm)[All articles](http://www.mcmanweb.com/articles.htm) **Discussions**** Susan** (March 22, 2001): I am bipolar and have been using Omega-3 for about a year. My psychiatrist put me on it. Since a relatively high dose of Omega-3 is required to get results, it costs me about $140 / month to maintain this regimen. Unfortunately, even though this treatment gives me a tremendous amount of mood stabilization, my insurance does not cover this. If it didn’t work so well, I would give it up. Not only does it act as a mood stabilizer, it also improves my mental clarity as well. For anyone who is considering this treatment, I recommend the book “The Omega-3 Connection” by Andrew Stoll, M.D. The author headed up the study of Omega-3 at Harvard Medical School. In this book, the study particulars are documented as well as the top brands of Omega-3 supplements. **Bill** (May 27, 2001): I struggled with the expense of supplements until I found [vitaglo.com](http://vitaglo.com). 1000mg of Omega 3-6-9 (250 softgels) is only $14.80. Twelve ounces of flax seed oil is $6.59. [Vitaglo.com](http://Vitaglo.com) discounts NOW Foods’ supplements which have been the choice of two professional alternative medicine practitioners I have gone to. **Marjie** (June 26, 2001): Re Susan’s letter - My son has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder. We need to find a psychiatrist who will prescribe Omega 3 rather than lithium, etc. Susan mentioned that her psychiatrist put her on the Omega 3 - can you provide the name of the psychiatrist? Don’t know where you’re located, but maybe that doctor can give a referral to the L.A. area. Thank you - this is an urgent request because he needs to be under the care of a psychiatrist by court order, yet he refuses lithium or Depakote and Omega 3 has been working well for him but we need a psychiatrist to prescribe it. Thanks again and hope someone can follow-up quickly. e-mail: [aussierover@earthlink.net](mailto:aussierover@earthlink.net) **Joanne** (Jan 23, 2002): I thought the article was excellent. most informative. Omega 3 works well for my relative. Actually, he uses alternative therapies exclusively. They include a host of supplements and amino acids. **Cheryl** (Feb 7, 2002): I have been using EPA (4 2x/day) along with Lecithin to treat my daughter’s bipolar disorder and it has been extremely effective. She’s a teenager now, but used Depakote when she was younger and hated it. She doesn’t mind the alternatives and my observation is that she is more balanced. I would be more than happy to have people contact me via email if they would like to know more about her regime. [csorge@charter.net](mailto:csorge@charter.net) **Byron** (Sept 20, 2002): hello there, reading omega 3 and it confirms all my research. Two months ago I self diagnosed myself, bipolar and went searching to find out what this meant. Before this discovery I just thought I was a little strange. Now I know I am only underpowered. In Australia pills are the only answer, as I hunt for a doctor that understands the symptoms, but all I get is “take your medication”, I reply I will , which is , nuts, seeds and vegetables. They think I am nuts. I need help. Hemp seed oil contains omega 3+6, how does the structure compare to fish oil amino acid wise. **McMan** (Sept 20): Hi, Byron. I recommend finding a doctor who will work with you, as self-medicating, even with natural substances, is not such a good idea. Keep in mind there are no major studies completed on Omega-3, and in the pilot study the omega-3 supplemented the medications you hate. \*\*Jan \*\*(Oct 1, 2002): Hi, I have been using the Omega-3 for about 6 months after reading a different article on the internet. I have been told by most of my family and friends that my moods are much more stable. This is great. I have been on other medications for 9 years and they were not consistent. I do have a question, has the Omega-3 been used with children at all? I have a 9 year old son that seems to be bi-polar. As he is getting older, the symptoms are becoming more clear. I have no interest in placing him on any of the strong medications I have been on, however, I would like him to be more stable in hopes that he will not experience all of the teasing and lack of friends etc. that I did in junior high school and high school. Can you contact me or put me in contact with anyone that might have a suggested level of Omega-3. Jan at [csorge@charter.net](mailto:csorge@charter.net) ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/8 "2007-01-05T03:00:49Z")
Get the omega 3s they worked like magic for me, i was depressed for years, this stuff is magic. I have read in so many books that 4g of DHA 4g of EPA and 8g of omega 3s (a MASSIVE dose) could reverse and cure completely bipolare in a few weeks). If i were you, i would just run to the store and by 5 bottles of omega 3s and take them all day with a little bit of vitamine E, or better yet, get the omega 3s with vitamin E in them. Your body needs vitamin E with omega 3s so that they are properly absorbed. DHA and EPA are found in the omega 3s. Your body makes DHA and EPA from omega 3s. Don’t get an omega 3 capsule that contains omega 6s. Your body has a huge omega 3 debt right now. You must eat fish, omega 3s and flax oil as much as you can. When your body will have accumulated enough omega 3s, it’ll heal by itself. BTW if your protein powder has any of the fallowing through it out, it is destroying your brain cells. These are all HIGLHY toxic and will cause terrible mental problems. FDA approved does not mean it is safe, it just means that they bribed the FDA to approve them, or they faked the studies, or it was before the time when they actually had to see if it damaged brain cells. 1. [Acesulfame potassium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium) — 200x sweetness (by weight), Nutrinova, E950, FDA Approved 2003 2. [Alitame](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alitame) — 2,000x sweetness (by weight), Pfizer, Pending FDA Approval 3. [Aspartame](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame) — 160-200x sweetness (by weight), NutraSweet, E951, FDA Approved 1981 4. [Aspartame-Acesulfame-Salt](http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Aspartame-Acesulfame-Salt&action=edit) — 350x sweetness (by weight), Twinsweet, E962 5. [Cyclamate](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclamate) — 30x sweetness (by weight), Abbott, E952, FDA Banned 1969, pending re-approval 6. [Dulcin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulcin) — 250x sweetness (by weight), FDA Banned 1950 7. [Neohesperidine dihydrochalcone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neohesperidine_dihydrochalcone) — 1,500x sweetness (by weight), E959 8. [Neotame](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neotame) — 8,000x sweetness (by weight), NutraSweet, FDA Approved 2002 9. [P-4000](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-4000) — 4,000x sweetness (by weight), FDA Banned 1950 10. [Saccharin](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharin) — 300x sweetness (by weight), E954, FDA Approved 1958 \*][Sucralose](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucralose) — 600x sweetness (by weight), Tate & Lyle, E955, FDA Approved 1998 ---
**Author:** ![Calimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Calimist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Calimist)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 4:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/9 "2007-01-05T04:58:15Z")
[Acesulfame potassium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium) is listed on here if i cant take this what product do u recomend ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 6:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-on-mutant-a314-working-out-and-my-body-and-confidence-are-running-superb/1416/10 "2007-01-05T06:07:24Z")
> [@Calimist](#): > > [Acesulfame potassium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium) is listed on here if i cant take this what product do u recomend Great, there are many natural whey proteins. Anyways, yours has artificial bovine growth hormones for shure. I personally use one called **European Whey Protein by \*\*\*\*webber naturals™**. It is sweetened with stevia, a plant that actually is good for you and tastes like sugar and has almost 0 calories, for you calorie counters out there (i personally eat as much carbs, protein and fat as i can as it makes me slim). Also mine has natural digestive enzymes from fruits that make it so your body doesnt waste any protein, more for your $$$$. Tastes VERY good. There are many whey proteins out there, not all are created equal. Try and look for one with enzymes, no artificial crap like [Acesulfame potassium](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium), no artificial colors. Mine has cocoa pouder, tastes like a great chocolate milk. I love to put 2 big scoops of whey in milk and add honey and warm it up on stove. Makes for a great drink. I add a big scoop of coconut fat! SOOO GOOD, best chocolate milk ever. But you should run to get the omega 3s before running around for some whey protein, the omega 3s will help you ALOT more. Seriously, the cure is omega 3s, i read it everyday and live it all the time. Your cure is but a few weeks away of omega 3s. GL my man!