# Wow: skeptic's first day on IShine and IFM, chatty office and a coffee invite **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 20, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086 "2008-11-20T05:57:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![badbobbyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@badbobbyj](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/badbobbyj)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/1 "2008-11-20T05:57:52Z")
Ok I’ll admit I was a bit skeptical… Ohh and what incredibly fast shipping!! I purchased a variety of stuff (mostly the small to-go bottles to try things out) Today I was going to be in a small office entirely staffed by women then followed by dinner with an old, very dear friend (never been a couple and likely never will be but that’s besides the point). Picked up the package after it was delivered and tried 2 sprays of IShine and 1 spray of IFM and headed downtown to this office. Nothing over the top but gals that never talked to me were chatty, a couple were hanging pretty close and just as I was leaving the 20 something receptionist asks me if I wanted to go out to coffee sometime (not a huge surprise she has been flirting with me for a while even before this). Later (like 4 hours later) went to dinner with this old friend, and about 30 minutes before did 1 more spray of IS, 1 more of IFM and 1 of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (1x).. She was a little more chattier than normal but nothing too over the top which really didnt surprse me, we’ve known each other for 20 years and have always had a completely platonic relationship. What surprised me was the waitress, cute but not gorgeous, I’m a regular there and she recognized me as such but has never been particularly friendly… Well that changed tonight and she was quite flirty, lots of idle talk, asked me about my new phone and brought us free appetizers.. Well when I get the check she has written down her phone number (even though I’m there with another woman) and as we were walking out the front door she chased after us to make sure everything was good and gave me a quick hug… Not bad for a first run at this! ---
**Author:** ![josef](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/josef/32/2007_2.png) [@josef](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/josef)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/2 "2008-11-20T06:27:28Z")
excellent. pretty brazen of the waitress, maybe she recognized the platonic nature of your relationship with the other woman and the Ammo and IFM put her over the top. thanks for adding. ---
**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/3 "2008-11-20T10:10:22Z")
Nice first results, keep them coming. IFM and ammo, nice simple combo that has a good success rate for me. Might have to add some Shine in from what you’ve told us 😉 Another skeptic converted 😃 ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/4 "2008-11-20T15:04:08Z")
that is a great hit and very daring of the waitress to write her phone number when you are there with another women! ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/5 "2008-11-20T22:38:31Z")
sweetness. good stuff, keep us posted. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/6 "2008-11-20T22:58:18Z")
Great report and from there it only gets better. I’m excited for you, because I know that you are getting the same types of hits I got when I first started. Like I said, it only gets better from there. ---
**Author:** ![Perrai](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/perrai/32/293_2.png) [@Perrai](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Perrai)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/7 "2008-11-20T23:59:20Z")
Wow, Nice hit and first day too =] I liked my first day hit as well.I wasn’t using ammo thou or instant female magic.Next order thou =] ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/8 "2008-11-22T00:41:09Z")
badbobbyj, I’d be interested in anything else you have to report, I think this deserves this bump-up because it adds so much value to AMMO and you. When you really take things at the level of optimistic skepticism you get great results. To skeptic, and you downplay stuff, but on the same note; to optimistic, you miss real hits. ---
**Author:** ![badbobbyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@badbobbyj](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/badbobbyj)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 5:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/9 "2008-11-22T05:51:34Z")
Well yesterday (day two) nearly the same combo as the first day, went with 2 sprays of IS (which seemed to make everyone a little giggly?) 1 spray of IMF and same 1 spray of Ammo. Waitress at lunch gave me her number again (TWICE this has happened in 2 days!!!) and the gals around the office were chattier, and frequently got giggly and silly. Today I recieved the A314, tried two drops and 1 spray instant shine 1 spray IMF. Not sure that was a great combo… The guys around me during the day seemed more intimidated than anything (I’m a pretty good size guy, fairly athletic, but built like an offensive lineman) so its not terribly unusual. But lots of little winks and second glances. No phone numbers today… I’m thinking maybe back off the a314 to a single drop… Got to say I really am enjoying the IS.. I’m not sure what it does sexually, but certainly adds to popularity! ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/10 "2008-11-22T15:46:55Z")
Damn dude! Very nice job. You are having a grand old time I see. Well played ---
**Author:** ![DssMaster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dssmaster/32/1686_2.png) [@DssMaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DssMaster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/11 "2008-11-30T21:52:51Z")
badbobbyj, great results on your first trial, glad to know you got great hits with the waitress. I would say to keep the A314 to a low, since it will definitely play the intimidation factor on others, according to your description. I know it does that to me, and I’m not a big guy at all. A314 can be a tricky little sucker, and from my experientation I just get lot’s of respect with it, too much if you ask me. And I only use two drops of the new [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scented one. Another thing I notice when I wear the A314 is that it suppresses my appetite in a big way, don’t know why, but it does. I have to apply it to the back of my neck (2 drops) in order not to get that effect as much. I’m one of those guys that works hard to maintain the weight I put on, so I’m not happy about my appetite being suppressed at all. Anyways, great report, look forward reading your latest results, please keep us poted…🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2008, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/12 "2008-11-30T23:44:55Z")
Dangggg You go Bobby 😃 You hit on a great mix for you right out of the gate, I love to see this. I am excited for you as well. Have fun with it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2008, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/13 "2008-12-01T01:08:47Z")
> [@badbobbyj](#): > > Well yesterday (day two) nearly the same combo as the first day, went with 2 sprays of IS (which seemed to make everyone a little giggly?) 1 spray of IMF and same 1 spray of Ammo. > > Waitress at lunch gave me her number again (TWICE this has happened in 2 days!!!) and the gals around the office were chattier, and frequently got giggly and silly. > > Today I recieved the A314, tried two drops and 1 spray instant shine 1 spray IMF. Not sure that was a great combo… The guys around me during the day seemed more intimidated than anything (I’m a pretty good size guy, fairly athletic, but built like an offensive lineman) so its not terribly unusual. But lots of little winks and second glances. No phone numbers today… > > I’m thinking maybe back off the a314 to a single drop… Got to say I really am enjoying the IS.. I’m not sure what it does sexually, but certainly adds to popularity! You really chose well for your first products! And terrific reports on your results. 🙂 You will continue to be amazed I’m certain. BTW, later on you may want to try pairing your A314 with Instant Honesty or [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and P93. For business meetings, where you want to be the lead, you can’t beat it for cooperation and respect. 😃 Diane ---
**Author:** ![TheCoop](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thecoop/32/1547_2.png) [@TheCoop](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCoop)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wow-skeptics-first-day-on-ishine-and-ifm-chatty-office-and-a-coffee-invite/23086/14 "2008-12-01T03:45:58Z")
Wow dude that is awesome results, maybe I should go to more restaurants 😃, I intimidate some males when I am wearing A314. I do wear high levels of it, the one thing you can try, at least I seem to be able to smooth over any problems. I just over amplify my friendly, openness behavior and body language, toward other people, whenever I see that they are intimidated unintentionally (not that I would ever try to scare anybody with pheros, I am all about the love and peace man) . I will try to display interest and ask questions to the intimidated person, in a manner that allows them to feel a little more equal in my presence. I think that body language is very important when using pheros, considering that pheros work on a primitive level. Tisha23 has a link on the bottom of her posts, that is a very helpful start in this area. Since I looked there, I have have spent a great amount of time, looking into the use of body language and it has provided me, even more control over situations surrounding me while wearing pheros. If you take in account that it is 10% pheros, 90% you, then understanding and controlling your body language, will enhance your experiences like it has mine. I dont seem to have any negative results with A314 when I am around women, it seems to increase my rep with most women, Asian females seem to take more notice of me when I wear this. I hope some of this will be helpful to you and I didn’t ramble to much. Anyway that is an awesome report badbobbyj, best of luck to you man.🆒