# WTF is going on around here anyway?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 28, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924 "2011-12-28T02:44:15Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/1 "2011-12-28T02:44:15Z")

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Hey everybody,

Let me start this off by telling you all that this is completely off the record, even though its going into the permanence of cyber space. AD isn’t endorsing this statement and also not a single person at the company (not even Jasmin or Harris) knows I’m posting this.

This company is on its way to a new world. I’ve heard some people try to guess where its on its way to - I’ve heard ‘out’, ‘the dumps’, ‘falling giant’, whatever. Well thats just plain silly. If it seems that way its because we are a real company operating in a real economy. There’s ups and downs. You just aren’t used to the transparency we have with you. Other companies are better at faking success while they work out of their parents’ basement and only finding success by standing on the sagging shoulders of others.

Well guess what? This isn’t some hobby to us. This isn’t some random online retail we thought would make a quick buck. We aren’t somebody pretending to be successful while mooching. We are a real company with real assets and a market to deal with. We are also operating at full steam in an economy where frankly we should be completely stripped of bells and whistles. I’ve seen the costs of these molecules and they’ve gone up. Like any commodity. Gasoline, coal, energy, [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) synthesis - it all fluctuates in market.

Some of you have been very good to us and I’d be remiss not to give you credit for our success. Some of you feel a little betrayed by a price increase and I honestly don’t have a new response for you on that. For the time being until the price comes down there are To-Go’s and still customs. Its the same thing I’ve been saying - we’ve been keeping things pretty cheap for a long time and now we are paying for it as the economy beats us with a stick. But we are pulling through - look at that GIANT RESTOCK we just did. That was expensive and we may make a few bucks. But I know that your happiness from that restock pales in comparison to any profit we will see. I know the books and thats no lie.

As for the team Steve and Mick have been doing a great job - without them would be a world I don’t even want to consider. Same with Jacob and Ben and everyone else at shipping/formulation/laboratory/etc. Heck, even Fedex has been kind of rad. They are all pushing on and dealing with a lot of things. They’ve kept me in positive spirits with their help and thats something I’m forever thankful on.

But enough gushing on stuff like that. I’m just here to respond to people saying we are collapsing or anything else ridiculous. Unless I am completely oblivious to whats going on in the company whose operations I’m managing then everything I’m saying is wrong. However I have to tell you - I know the road map. Its scary. It honestly doesn’t make a lot of sense. But I know it leads to success for all of us. We just have to stay on it. I’ve got a pretty awesome seat to my pants and I’m going to fly by it.

We have an in-house solution we are working on to leaks. There are a lot of other companies using similar containers and they’ve been leaking, too. Its physics. We think we’ve found a solution thanks to a supportive community and we’ll be testing that as soon as we get the materials.

We also have molecules out there that people rarely report on that have A LOT of merit. And I just did a massive restock.

I know a lot of the people who are trying to make us look like we are failing come from a place where they can’t read our road map and thats fine. Let them stay away, more molecules for you - the A.D.venturers. The ass-kickers. For those of you who are trail blazing cowboys and cowgirls who like flying by the seat of their pants like us…

“… Here’s to the crazy ones.” - Steve Jobs

Love you all, thanks for being rockstars.

See ya’ll in 2012, or at least you’ll see me. 😉

From the heart,  
John Sebastian  
Androtics Direct Operations Manager

PS: Sorry its so fragmented and sorry for any typos or messed up grammar. I typed this once and from the heart without stopping.

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/2 "2011-12-28T03:10:08Z")

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Sadly I’m brain dead from the long day at work, so you won’t find anything profound from me other than it’s good to hear what’s going on and THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

For p97 😃

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/3 "2011-12-28T03:13:36Z")

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> [@2000GT](#):
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> Sadly I’m brain dead from the long day at work, so you won’t find anything profound from me other than it’s good to hear what’s going on and THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
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> For p97 😃

2000GT, you’re welcome as always dude. Thanks for keeping the love for a great molecule. 🙂

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/4 "2011-12-28T03:26:19Z")

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Well, I was just starting to get a grasp of it, had a nice little journal and lost the damned thing (the journal). It’s so damned enigmatic because it seems to do so many things. I know Pago has said that it can be sexual but for me it’s been very much about self effects and communication. I really hope other people will test and report on this one. 🙂

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/5 "2011-12-28T03:57:08Z")

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THANK you for the post and giving some sense of the chaos that is being addressed and dealt with by AD. You have a long term supporter in me, guys! 🙂

[![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/c/c8c0ed69cdf6703ebc2919a58af01ab4dbe70c12.jpeg) ](https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJvfN8uHq2RAsZqEJt0qA1-dbJifY4I4UVXhZmoNlniP1uhPe_)

@ GT - Doh!!! I got the [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), P93, and P96… didn’t get P97…

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 4:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/6 "2011-12-28T04:17:00Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> THANK you for the post and giving some sense of the chaos that is being addressed and dealt with by AD. You have a long term supporter in me, guys! 🙂
> 
> [https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJvfN8uHq2RAsZqEJt0qA1-dbJifY4I4UVXhZmoNlniP1uhPe\_](https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTJvfN8uHq2RAsZqEJt0qA1-dbJifY4I4UVXhZmoNlniP1uhPe_)
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> @ GT - Doh!!! I got the P75, P93, and P96… didn’t get P97…

And we of course will always support you best we can. Like the Golden Girls said (and this goes to many of you) ‘Thank you for being a friend.’

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/7 "2011-12-28T11:16:55Z")

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(((John)))

Sweety your starting to talk just like Jasmin LOL

Seriously though \>\>\> I know its been rough for you guys. Change always brings with it a certain amount of fear and turbulence and I think this is what your picking up on in the forum. Transparency is not the same as clarity. Its like looking through fog. You can see but you just cant grasp everything clearly. This can be scarier then not being able to see at all sometimes and cause ripples in the energy. Some people see those ripples as a threat or something negative and some see it for what it is. Some need more time to examine what they are looking at before they decide. Eventually all those turbulent ripples in the energy field begin to smooth out as the fog starts to clear. I really dont think people feel betrayed, its more of a feeling of uncertainty.

It really is going to be fine though John. 2012 is a year for healing on many levels. I look forward to it.

Happy New Year AD its gonna be a great year 😉

Tisha

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**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/8 "2011-12-28T13:50:43Z")

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[http://www.scavengeinc.com/images/Product/medium/rubies/profelt-fedora-hat.jpg](http://www.scavengeinc.com/images/Product/medium/rubies/profelt-fedora-hat.jpg)

Even though I haven’t needed anything John, it is nice to know to you are still doing restocks in this economy.

Thank for everything you do here and most of all stay classy John Sebastian.

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**Author:** ![dbot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dbot/32/1595_2.png) [@dbot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dbot)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/9 "2011-12-28T19:18:22Z")

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> [@](#):
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> However I have to tell you - I know the road map. Its scary. It honestly doesn’t make a lot of sense. But I know it leads to success for all of us.

I would love to hear more about this.

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**Author:** ![rlsoftware](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@rlsoftware](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rlsoftware)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/10 "2011-12-28T20:24:20Z")

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Great news on the restock and once again I love this company. These products had an impact on my life. I feel happier and I feel stronger. When I thought a girl didn’t care about me anymore I used a few spray of -nones and BANG I had her in my arms.  
AD always had shown us better quality of service than we expect. Always surprising us.  
Thank you so much 🙂

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**Author:** ![TwistedOstrich](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/twistedostrich/32/627_2.png) [@TwistedOstrich](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TwistedOstrich)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/11 "2011-12-28T20:31:25Z")

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Quite curious when UF3 is expected aprox. Sooner or later? Would love to combine it with my restock order…

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/12 "2011-12-29T17:16:35Z")

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> [@TwistedOstrich](#):
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> Quite curious when UF3 is expected aprox. Sooner or later? Would love to combine it with my restock order…

I believe those in charge of development are awaiting the results of that stealth diffusion poll.

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**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/13 "2011-12-29T19:53:07Z")

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Ah, correction.

The poll was merely to flavor our ideas. The boys upstairs have been crafting something juicy for weeks. They’re onto something big. We don’t wait for results of a poll-- they’ve been reading between the lines of everything you guys have said for months (so keep talkin’, we’re adamantly listenin’!)

True innovation, the real stuff, innovation that is spurred by time, love, effort, and exceptional thought, takes time. Real time. You’ll have a REAL, non pirated, completely genuine artifact from an artisan and a scientist, in YOUR hands, ready to spray…

That said…

UF2.5 will be available by Fri or Sat.

Stay tuned!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/14 "2011-12-29T19:55:37Z")

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Hell yeas, just in time for the last year of planet Earth!

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**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/15 "2011-12-29T20:52:39Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> Hell yeas, just in time for the last year of planet Earth!

Messiah what do you think of buying space for 8 people in a underground bunker for 900,000? 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/16 "2011-12-29T22:22:34Z")

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LOL, thanks for the vote, but I am far from being a messiah 😛. Although I am done with drawing out the concept on my book and started writing the first chapter. I already have an agent and publisher. Decide what to call me after you read it, if you do. I believe a lot of people are going to draw a line of distinction between hate or love for me.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@The\_Hammer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Hammer)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/17 "2011-12-29T23:08:35Z")

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So an expose on pheromone usage?

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**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/18 "2011-12-29T23:48:41Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> _ **LOL, thanks for the vote, but I am far from being a messiah 😛. Although I am done with drawing out the concept on my book and started writing the first chapter. I already have an agent and publisher. Decide what to call me after you read it, if you do. I believe a lot of people are going to draw a line of distinction between hate or love for me.** _

It’s all love from right here, baby. 😉 🙂 😮 😛

Bella

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/19 "2011-12-30T00:42:15Z")

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> [@The\_Hammer](#):
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> So an expose on pheromone usage?

Nothing to do with mones at all. Its about connecting to GOD 😉

> [@Bella](#):
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> It’s all love from right here, baby. 😉 🙂 😮 😛
> 
> Bella

Love right back at yah 🙂

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**Author:** ![level](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85e7bf/32.png) [@level](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/level)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-is-going-on-around-here-anyway/53924/20 "2011-12-30T03:10:24Z")

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> [@John\_Sebastian](#):
>
> Ah, correction.
> 
> The poll was merely to flavor our ideas. The boys upstairs have been crafting something juicy for weeks. They’re onto something big. We don’t wait for results of a poll-- they’ve been reading between the lines of everything you guys have said for months (so keep talkin’, we’re adamantly listenin’!)
> 
> True innovation, the real stuff, innovation that is spurred by time, love, effort, and exceptional thought, takes time. Real time. You’ll have a REAL, non pirated, completely genuine artifact from an artisan and a scientist, in YOUR hands, ready to spray…
> 
> That said…
> 
> UF2.5 will be available by Fri or Sat.
> 
> Stay tuned!

are we going to see new products in the instant line?  
thanks Level

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