# WTF some scary S%\*# **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 1, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420 "2009-01-01T15:06:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mr.magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mr.magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mr.magnum)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/1 "2009-01-01T15:06:10Z")
Alright so i got my order yesterday and been new to pheromones and been new years i though it ill be the perfect time to give them a try. SO i put on my [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)+OP+AMMO+Turn Up The Heat right b4 i got of the car to go in the house (family mem N Y party) at first dint notice nothing out of the ordinary. but as the night wen by i noticed 2 of my cousins friends looking at me a few times and they have always ignore my presence. this girls are gorgeous i though that was really really 😃 cool and very rewarding. but what i did not like its that my cousin. was constantly graving my arm and smelling my neck in a very wier way. now me and her have always be very close we even train together at times and this f%^\* up my night. any advice or should i not wear pheros around her ever again? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/2 "2009-01-01T15:33:52Z")
Went for the traditional Phero Baptism. Welcome now you have been initiated into the world of mones 😉 For one you shouldn’t use TUTH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) together. Your lucky you didn’t experience the OD effect. Your cousin is not sexually attracted to you. She knows you and she knows your natural mone signature. She sensed a change and was probably trying to place it. Since the scent is new to her its natural for her to inhale it. She is unaware she is doing it, Its part of sensory processing. I suggest you use one product at a time as is directed here in the forum. Find your correct dosage for each then move on to layering. I assume she wasn’t in the car when you applied. Apply in a closed environment like that can give you a massive head rush. Dont spray and drive LOL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mr.magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mr.magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mr.magnum)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 3:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/3 "2009-01-01T15:37:45Z")
thanx god. whats a OD effect ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/4 "2009-01-01T16:01:42Z")
The OD effect occurs predominately with anone products like TUTH and AMMO. You need to carefully find your dosage of anything anone. OD means **O** ver **D** osed or **O** pposite of **D** esired effect to be more exact. Instead of attraction you cause people to be repelled. You can get the ghost effect (be ignored) or worse yet cause moodiness in others. This is mostly a concern for anone products alone. You can be a little more lax in dosage with socials and calming mones. Use AMMO when you want general attraction and mild arousal. Use TUTH in a sexual atmosphere when you want to move onto more intimate interaction. If you use them both together first learn your seperate dosage for each and cut back accordingly on each one so your using the amount of anone you know you can handle. To help come up with a number for that keep in mind that TUTH is straight anone at 2.5 mcg per spray. AMMO is a mix of 3 mones which makes it buffered. It also has 2.5 mcg per spray of anone. You didnt mention how many sprays of each you used or I would tell you how much you had on. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mr.magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mr.magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mr.magnum)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/5 "2009-01-01T16:19:45Z")
2 sprays of each 1 of turn on the heat ---
**Author:** ![mr.magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mr.magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mr.magnum)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/6 "2009-01-01T16:21:15Z")
1 divided wrist 1 on neck, turn on the heat chest ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/7 "2009-01-01T17:01:16Z")
You had on 7.5 mcgs of anone. Not to bad, How old are you ? Test each on its own. My guess you would use 2 to 3 of ammo on its own. For TUTH about 1 to 2, maybe 3 with someone you know and have a sexual relationship. With Ishine and IO you probably need more, I always go a little higher with the socials then with the Main base mone. For instance.. You could choose one main mix as your base. Lets say you use AMMO for that then use the socials to steer or enhance the vibe for whatever your situation is that day. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![propellerhead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e274bd/32.png) [@propellerhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/propellerhead)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/8 "2009-01-01T21:36:08Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > \ > You could choose one main mix as your base. Lets say you use AMMO for that then use the socials to steer or enhance the vibe for whatever your situation is that day. > > Tisha LOL, it sounds like you created your own mix of Instant WTF. That’s a great way to describe using the social to steer the vibe. I know it’s the same but it jives better with my experience better than “buffering”. Personally I like using [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) solo but I love the effects I get using A314 as my base and then using ISx2 to mellow out the alpha vibe. Nearly every woman I have encountered when wearing this mix really latches on to me, physically, socially and in a few cases emotionally too. In my experience they are drawn in by the mix but it’s the A314 that puts a “head lock” on them. The devotion and lengths some women will goto when exposed to A314 is amazing. Like “I know I just met you last week but I want to have your baby” type of devotion. In the other hand, I have a tougher time dialing in TUTH, even when buffered with IS. I find the mix works well but it all depends on what you’re looking for. In a social setting the girls are still attracted and drawn in but the intereaction is much more raw and sexually charged yet less social. It seems to make women a bit anxious, as if they were unsure of what to do with themselves while fighting “bedroom urges” swirling in theirhead while in a social setting. However, as Tisha says, when you’re in an intimate setting with a woman, TUTH delivers exactly what the label describes. ---
**Author:** ![CdubFTW](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cdubftw/32/2463_2.png) [@CdubFTW](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CdubFTW)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/9 "2009-01-02T03:40:51Z")
> [@propellerhead](#): > > LOL, it sounds like you created your own mix of Instant WTF. > > That’s a great way to describe using the social to steer the vibe. I know it’s the same but it jives better with my experience better than “buffering”. > > Personally I like using Instant Shine solo but I love the effects I get using A314 as my base and then using ISx2 to mellow out the alpha vibe. Nearly every woman I have encountered when wearing this mix really latches on to me, physically, socially and in a few cases emotionally too. In my experience they are drawn in by the mix but it’s the A314 that puts a “head lock” on them. The devotion and lengths some women will goto when exposed to A314 is amazing. > > > [@](#): > > > > Like “I know I just met you last week but I want to have your baby” type of devotion. > > In the other hand, I have a tougher time dialing in TUTH, even when buffered with IS. I find the mix works well but it all depends on what you’re looking for. In a social setting the girls are still attracted and drawn in but the intereaction is much more raw and sexually charged yet less social. It seems to make women a bit anxious, as if they were unsure of what to do with themselves while fighting “bedroom urges” swirling in theirhead while in a social setting. However, as Tisha says, when you’re in an intimate setting with a woman, TUTH delivers exactly what the label describes. LOL..yeah i’ve gotten that a couple times..like “I want you to meet my family, can you come to our cookout?” I’m like ..errummm…Yeah I just met you like 5 mins ago..Oh look there goes my bus, ttyl!!:o ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/10 "2009-01-03T02:35:37Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > To help come up with a number for that keep in mind that TUTH is straight anone at 2.5 mcg per spray. AMMO is a mix of 3 mones which makes it buffered. It also has 2.5 mcg per spray of anone. Just a little update. [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) is not straight androstenone. Androstenone is primary one, but it has 11 pheromones total. Lots of helpers in there! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![marsgate](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marsgate/32/168_2.png) [@marsgate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marsgate)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/11 "2009-01-03T03:39:58Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Just a little update. Turn Up the Heat is not straight androstenone. Androstenone is primary one, but it has 11 pheromones total. Lots of helpers in there! 🙂 Thanks for clarifying, Jasmin. We hear about the -none in TUTH so much it’s easy to forget there’s more magic going on inside the bottle. ---
**Author:** ![mr.magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mr.magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mr.magnum)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/12 "2009-01-03T04:36:49Z")
Thanx for the input. I’ll give each one by it self. By the way am 27. Btw does does the orderon witch I put them on makes a diference? Sorry if am keeping my post so abstract. But am posting from my phone and it’s a mission. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/13 "2009-01-03T17:13:52Z")
Eww, this is nasty. LOL One lesson learned. Never wear TUTH around family!!! ---
**Author:** ![mr.magnum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@mr.magnum](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mr.magnum)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/14 "2009-01-03T23:48:32Z")
No kidding? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/15 "2009-01-04T15:35:50Z")
> [@](#): > > **Jasmin** > Just a little update. Turn Up the Heat is not straight androstenone. Androstenone is primary one, but it has 11 pheromones total. Lots of helpers in there! 🙂 LOL You better inform Michael then, He posted its straight anone with a “few” steering mones in a few of his posts 😉 > [@](#): > > **MHarris :** Turn Up The Heat just has one pheromonal “note”: androstenone. On top of that, there’s a light erotic essential oil blend . > [@Relatively new to pheromones- Turn up the heat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relatively-new-to-pheromones-turn-up-the-heat/304): > > What can you guys tell me about TUTH? - Experiences? Hits? Best way to use? ALSO, how does it compare to alter ego, and how has AE worked for you? Thanks > [@](#): > > **MHarris** > This time around, I wanted Turn Up The Heat to be closer to the variation I use myself. I simply cannot use 5mcg a spray of straight -none under normal circumstances. > > Think of the new version like a higher efficiency -none. It runs a little streamier at lower doses, and with more stability. A reworking of boolean switches to create more positives and a few less negatives. > [@](#): > > **MHarris** v1.0 of Turn Up The Heat is the world’s first dosed -none product. It’s just 5mcg -none per spray, some diffusion enhancers, and a very small, but apparent amount of an erotic essential oil blend. Very simple. > > The new version has 3 dosage + price tiers. The first tier contains 2.5mcg -none, the second 5mcg, and the third 7.5mcg. Then there’s the modifiers. > > The expanded dosage tiers will let you buy the right amount for your age and temperament. Younger people can get a “lighter” product, and older ones or those who want a “wild ride” can opt for a stronger one. > > The modifiers are small amounts of sexual + corrective pheromones, that helps to steer and, hopefully, improve the -none effect for the greatest number of users. They’re what I often added myself, but in smaller quantities, so they don’t overwhelm the -none effect itself. **Turn Up The Heat is still basically dosed -none.** Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/16 "2009-01-04T18:56:02Z")
He knows very well. He made the stuff. 🙂 Remember, there’s versions. That’s an old version you’re quoting there. Very old. And it’s is dosed none. Plus a _ton_ of modifiers. Michael is the master of understatement, so keep that in mind! 😛 > [@tisha23](#): > > LOL You better inform Michael then, He posted its straight anone with a “few” steering mones in a few of his posts 😉 > > . > > [Relatively new to pheromones- Turn up the heat](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/relatively-new-to-pheromones-turn-up-the-heat/304) > > Tisha ---
**Author:** ![zyron](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zyron/32/1842_2.png) [@zyron](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zyron)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/17 "2009-01-04T19:19:09Z")
> [@jankren](#): > > Eww, this is nasty. LOL > > One lesson learned. Never wear TUTH around family!!! not too nasty if she is a second cousin. LOL 😃😃😃😃😮 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/18 "2009-01-04T20:09:06Z")
What version is it at now, It dosnt really state versions in the store so it was assumed it was still the 1.0 version. This way if it changes again I will have more accurate information to give the members without disclosing to much of course. This happened with AMMO 1.0 amd 1.5 as well. Everyone thought it still had TAA in it. Have any of the others changed ? Isexiness is this the same as when Michael posted about it. I know A314 changes, How many mones are we up to without telling us what they are ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Sethy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sethy/32/1625_2.png) [@Sethy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sethy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/19 "2009-01-04T20:37:02Z")
JUST LOLLLL on my part. hmm, I wonder what aging and temp does to the effects of this stuff. ---
**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420/20 "2009-01-05T04:28:54Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Just a little update. Turn Up the Heat is not straight androstenone. Androstenone is primary one, but it has 11 pheromones total. Lots of helpers in there! 🙂 Wow this i had no idea…when did this change? I always thought it was jsut pure none my version says on the bottom 1x v2.5 Does this mean i have the 11 [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) total? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-some-scary-s/24420.md?page=2)