# WTF: wore 2 sprays MX 297 and 1 drop a314 and my friends started hitting me, why?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 6, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169 "2011-03-06T02:02:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/1 "2011-03-06T02:02:10Z")

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I wore 2 sprays MX 297 and 1 drop a314..

I was with like 15 of my friends and a few of them started messing with me one of them put something on me and I hit him then like 5 kids jumped in and started hitting me..

I don’t understand I wasn’t starting problems I wasn’t saying anything I dont even know what happened.

These kids have been exposed to a lot of different signals.  
Could it be that the [pheromones](https://a314.com/) were giving off a vibe that I thought was cooler then I was and that pissed them off?

I can’t figure out why it was happening because a lot of those kids were always nice.

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**Author:** ![Aggie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f07891/32.png) [@Aggie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aggie)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/2 "2011-03-06T02:14:37Z")

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It’s impossible for us to give you a conclusive answer not knowing the contents of [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/).

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**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/3 "2011-03-06T02:14:49Z")

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that must of been bad bro I’m not gunna lie.

You might be be coming, just like you said, ‘too cool’.

It’s risky, but you might want to lower [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) dosage and higher up the A314, if you still want to properly test this combo.

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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/4 "2011-03-06T02:23:40Z")

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maybe, in the past, you wore high -none products, such as IJ or tuth.  
Now, that you are using more MX 297 - A314 is more respect, but less physically imposing -they don’t see you as “alpha” or “tough”… I don’t know… Plus, they might have found out about your current personal situation, and they don’t think you are that "high status " anymore.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 2:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/5 "2011-03-06T02:48:32Z")

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If its any help, I have found that wearing 297 & 314 does send a contradctory/counterproductive signal, although others here have reported good results.

Mind you, I’ve spent all day getting death/damage threats of a couple of no-hope betas 60 miles away, who have only ever been exposed to me wearing A314 & A314/none! :o 😉

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**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/6 "2011-03-06T04:26:44Z")

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Stay away from anyone that would do that to you. Doesn’t matter what you are wearing, people that treat you like that are not worth your trouble.

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/7 "2011-03-06T05:28:55Z")

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> [@Jstn](#):
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> I wore 2 sprays MX 297 and 1 drop a314..
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> I was with like 15 of my friends and a few of them started messing with me one of them put something on me and I hit him then like 5 kids jumped in and started hitting me..
> 
> I don’t understand I wasn’t starting problems I wasn’t saying anything I dont even know what happened.
> 
> These kids have been exposed to a lot of different signals.  
> Could it be that the pheromones were giving off a vibe that I thought was cooler then I was and that pissed them off?
> 
> I can’t figure out why it was happening because a lot of those kids were always nice.

Put something on you like what? Was it something bad enough to justify hitting him. Try to remember that perceptions change from person to person and regardless of the fact that they may have been tooling you, you escalated it to violence. As far as they are concerned the situation could be that they were just playing around and you started hitting one of them unprovoked. I’m not saying that’s what happened but it could very well be how they see it.

That said it sounds like they’re tooling you. You change your signal a lot from what I’ve read from your posts. This is not a good thing in your situation. You’re going with very strong (read challenging) alpha signatures which by itself might be fine, but other days you change it up, this sends a mixed signal and they sense weakness and essentially shit test you. I noticed with a former female coworker that she would playfully hit me…in a flirty sort of way, I was wearing A314 quite a bit, when I stopped wearing it for a while she started getting quite moody and bitchy around me…as if she sensed the strength she originally felt was either no longer there or that she misjudged me and it wasn’t there to begin with.

Here’s my advice.  
1.) go alpha lite with your signal…A314 might be a bit too much for your age group and situation. IG is very masculine, gets good respect but is less serious and intimidating (challenging) than A314. Buffer it a little more with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and perhaps some IH.

2.) Don’t change things to drastically from day to day. Start low and mild and GRADUALLY work up the signal. Say 1-2 weeks with just a single spray of shine, then 1-2 weeks with 2 sprays of shine and a single spray of IH, then a single spray of Gent. Get the likable vibe first and then alpha it up slightly with the gentleman. But do it gradually and be consistent…follow a pattern to your progressive mone use. Stop trying random thrown together mixes from one day to the next.

3.) Eliminate poison people from your life. I understand at your age wanting to be accepted and to be part of the group but when the group is abusive making you the scapegoat for their own attempts at alpha displays it’s time to find another group. Contemplate a positive direction for your life and get on that path, people that want to follow or help you along are welcome, those who would try to steer your from the path or resist your attempts at self growth and development are neither wanted nor needed in your life. I’ve made numerous posts about people resisting changes in the behavior of people they know…this could be an example of that.

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**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/8 "2011-03-06T06:04:14Z")

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Rad you really help me a lot I wish I could talk to you more but I understand your busy.

Would you be willing to give me advice when your free if I pay you?

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**Author:** ![Jabez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jabez/32/2193_2.png) [@Jabez](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jabez)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/9 "2011-03-06T16:08:22Z")

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Jstn what was it that he kid put on you excactly bro?

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**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/10 "2011-03-06T17:46:37Z")

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> [@Jstn](#):
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> Rad you really help me a lot I wish I could talk to you more but I understand your busy.
> 
> Would you be willing to give me advice when your free if I pay you?

Dude email me or pm me and I’ll try to get back to you as soon as my schedule allows, but I won’t charge you. I just want to help and see you become the man you would want to be living the life you would want to live.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wtf-wore-2-sprays-mx-297-and-1-drop-a314-and-my-friends-started-hitting-me-why/49169/11 "2011-03-06T18:13:24Z")

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Yeah you are 15 and naturally producing androstenone. The high none signal probably made primal behavior come out in the group. From what you described it seems exactly like monkeys or dogs. Stay away from -none and use the socials…
