# wth happen?! :( **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 5, 2007, 5:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430 "2007-01-05T05:37:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430/21 "2007-01-07T20:24:37Z")
Lately I’ve been using androstenone in the same manner you guys have…to put a more masculine ‘edge’ against the softening effects the social and comfort pheromones can have…particularly the more female oriented ones. The mix I wore on new years, which was completely devoid of none, certainly felt like it was ‘missing something.’ It poses quite a dilemna when you keep none out of your mixes to avoid the negative effects, but start to miss the positives. I’m wondering why raw androsteRONE hasn’t been getting much attention anymore. It has a lot of the masculine qualities of androstenone, though not nearly as blatant, and without the negative effects. ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430/22 "2007-01-07T22:11:03Z")
hey! srry took so long to reply back… I just read this whole thread and to think about it, I just sprayed only one shot at me on AMMO. And i thought asians are low on -none? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2007, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430/23 "2007-01-07T23:11:55Z")
> [@b737pilot88](#): > > hey! > srry took so long to reply back… > > I just read this whole thread and to think about it, I just sprayed only one shot at me on AMMO. And i thought asians are low on -none? Thats a very general statement, and while there has been some consistency shown behind that, it isn’t a concrete fact. In my case, I seem to have a lower androstenone production. Younger men are also known to produce higher amounts of none, so it could go either way. In your case pilot, I would keep testing ammo out for consistent results and to get a better idea of where you stand with androstenone. There are a lot of different factors that can influence the effects of pheromones in individual cases. Long-term consistent use will give you a more concrete idea of how it works for you. ---
**Author:** ![b737pilot88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@b737pilot88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/b737pilot88)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430/24 "2007-01-08T04:45:19Z")
thanx!😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430/25 "2007-01-08T19:57:46Z")
I’m not dissing androstenone entirely, jsut saying it’s overrated/overused. For some people who are low in -none, or need a “boost” then some -none is probably a necessity. I have a hunch I may already be -none high (even at 50+) so more is not always better… I pla to start experimenting with more -none with a certain target soon to see what happens. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wth-happen/1430.md?page=1)