# Wyatt's Once-in-a-while Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 8, 2013, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wyatts-once-in-a-while-journal/58104 "2013-02-08T10:20:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2013, 10:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wyatts-once-in-a-while-journal/58104/1 "2013-02-08T10:20:06Z")
This initial post I’ll edit from time to time as a go to spot for what I’ve tried, the sweet spots on self effects and how various pheromones affect others. Like the title says, I’ll update it once in a while. \*\*Pherone’s Products: M-11\*\* Pherone’s #1 product. I bought it years ago when it first came out at 12 bucks a bottle. They now charge 50. This stuff is the real deal. I love the scent, but my girl friend can’t stand it. She can also easily detect the pheromones in them (I can’t) so I must apply it at least 45 minutes beforehand or she’ll notice them. **Dosage:** 1 drop on my finger applied to the back of my ears will be enough if intimate with someone. 2 to 3 drops spread behind the ears and on the neck if in public and wanting to flirt. **Self effects:** Mild but noticeable mood booster. You just feel more confident, a tad happier and more certain that things will go your way. Lasts about 4 to 5 hours, but starting to drop off after about two and a half to three. It’s a different boost than [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), without the buzz. Instant Shine is like a high energy buzz, while this is just peaceful confidence with a tiny tad of happiness thrown in. **Affect on others:** (basically it only affects women barring the self effects) Damage control on PMSing women. (If you’re a woman reading this, I suggest using a tad of this when in a bitchy mood or during rough days on your period). It takes the edge off/fire out. It also helps diffuse built up anger. If you’re a guy and just did something dumb, it won’t let you off the hook, but the amount of time that your lady friend is yelling/pissed at you is greatly decreased. It is also great at decreasing the reacquaintance time if you’ve been apart for a long time. Relaxes women. It’s not in the same league as A1, probably close to TAC (yet to try it). It puts them at ease with a slight dreamy look and will largely melt in your arms if holding them. It decreases last minute resistance to sex. I wouldn’t call it a sexual mix, I’d just say that women are far more open to suggestions to make love based on I’m guessing how relaxed they feel with you. It makes you appear more desirable to women and they are far more likely than normal to strike up a conversation with you or be open to one. Indications of interest are there, but not as strong or as frequent as with Ammo. Think of it as an icebreaker. However, women are more relaxed when talking with you than with Ammo. If looking to score at a club, beach party, etc, then I’d suggest Ammo, any other situation I’d suggest M-11. (Yet to try P95, MX297 and others yet). No ghosting effects. However at 4 to 5 drops, the effects become less noticeable. Will buy again. Presently out and hoping the price drops. **Androditics Direct’s products:** **Instant Shine** This stuff rocks! Buy it, don’t think, buy it. I suggest the double strength version if you don’t like perfume. I bought the double strength version. I can’t say I like the scent, but I don’t mind it either. **Dosage:** One spray at double strength really livens things up. Two it gets nuts, but some people including the wearer may become visibly burnt out. (I think it’s like a circuit breaker is blown). **Self effects:** Mild to heavy buzz/dizziness for up to 15 minutes after application from a single spray. If two sprays, walking is hard. Driving, riding a bike etc. NOT an option till the buzz fades somewhat. First time I used it I got a mild headache, but nothing since. After the buzz fades it can give a mild burnt feeling to a tiny tad of an energy boost to high energy buzz. **Affect on others:** Wow! This stuff livens things up. People chat and smile more, way more. If you’re hosting a party or trying to liven up a dead class/office this is the stuff. One spray of double strength is enough to do a whole room. Two sprays and things get kinda crazy, but the odd person will become hardcore burnt out. I do not notice the effect where people notice/pay more attention to me that others report, however just seeing a thumping room is reward enough. This will be found in my cabinets the day I die. It’s that good. **Ammunition** I can’t stand the scent, it smells like a nasty soap/shampoo. I made the mistake of buying it single strength. I should have bought double so that I could apply less of the perfume when testing, but I wanted more control for testing. **Dosage:** Still experimenting. 1 spray and indications of interest are there. 2 sprays out right hair yanking and pacing by women. However, I can’t stand the smell so much that I’ve yet to take it beyond two. **Self effects:** Slight buzz/light headed feeling for 2 to 3 minutes after application. Post, very mild edgy/wariness. **Affect on others:** On men: Some men notice the scent beyond the nasty shampoo like scent. Smelled like a beef carcass one guy said. Ever so slight ghosting at two sprays. On women: Heavy, heavy indications of interest by women. It seems to put them on edge, hair yanking, hovering about you, pacing. Time of the month also seems to be a factor. Can range from little visible effects to very heavy by the same woman. Affect on my girlfriend; she said she noticed that my signature seemed to change, like I was a different person, but still good. (I was wearing, IS, AMMO, P83 and A1). Ammo appears to improve her opinion of me by a bit. Over all much stronger than M-11, BUT I think M-11 will have more women initiating conversation as a standalone product. Ammo will need a helper here. More experimentation needed. Will consider buying again, but at double strength. Looking for alternatives/will use M-11 due to the scent. **Turn Up The Heat** Nice spicy scent. I think 3 shots is what my pheromone signature was when I was from 15 to 23. I bought the single strength. I suggest just the single as it’s very easy to overdose this one. **Dosage:** 1 shot is enough to turn an older woman on. She won’t know what is doing it, just that she’s getting wet and thinking about sex more. 1 shot is also enough to ghost a young woman/virgin (I still haven’t ran more than two shots). **Self effects:** Other than about a 30 to 90 second buzz/light headed feeling upon application, nothing on self, but yet to take it higher than two shots on me. When applied to others, such as my girl friend’s lingerie, WOW, the stuff should be called Shields Up. I sprayed both the top and bottom with about 5 shots each as it’d be anywhere from 3 to 10 days away before I saw her and I needed the scent to wear off, but still have enough pheromones on it to turn her on. At 5 shots on the top, I had to stop, run out of the room refocus then run back in and do the bottoms. Post that I had to close the room off, then later on run like mad, hold my breath and run them to another room. Seriously it was like a palpable force pushing me away it was nuts. I ODed myself here. Just couldn’t think, had to get away from it. It also reminded me of my teenage years and how I felt back then. It also heavily explained most women’s behavior about me. (There was this one guy that must have just been throwing off A1 in buckets looking back at it). **Affect on others:** On men: Yet to notice anything on a single or double shot. (My normal signature is similar to TUTH so I don’t think this one really alters people’s perceptions of me). On women: A single shot combined with my natural signature is enough to ghost a young woman/virgin. On older women, 28+ it turns them on. They won’t know where it’s coming from, just that they’re getting wet and thinking about sex. I will buy again, but much more careful experimentation is needed as this WILL ghost people and there is no one safe dose at least for me. **P83** I like the coconut vanilla scent. However, even at 6% it’s a bit strong for stealth application without raising suspicions. Best to apply 20 minutes beforehand if being stealthy. **Dosage:** 20 to 40 mcg. Yet to really get a handle on it. **Self effects:** Heh, ticks, normally they’re under wraps, but stuff, and jokes and such just pop out. Far more likely just to let go and go with it. More experimentation is needed. **Affect on others:** On others, ticks and quirks pop out more. People generally more relaxed and open to just go with the flow. Women might be more likely to get romantically involved. Again more experimentation needed. This will be a staple once I get down the correct dosage and where and when to use it. \*\*Love Scent’s Products: A1\*\* If going to buy it, buy the 10ml bottle. I mixed mine in vodka to dilute it. I personally like the scent, but 25% of men can’t smell it, and another 25% have a hard time smelling it. (I on the other hand can’t smell most other pheromones, barring copulins). **Dosage:** 10 to 60 mcgs. I went with a 10 mcg per spray dilution. **Affect on self:** Not much other than a light 20 to 40 second dizziness and noticing the scent for up to an hour later. **Affect on others:** On men: The vast, vast majority no visible effects noticed. The odd one however it’s an INSTANT downer/depressor. Guessing less than 5% of the population. They also recover instantly as you move out of range. On women: Bliss in a bottle. This ISN’T sexual, they just look and feel real dang content. (If women are reading this, just buy some, when bitchy, moody, feeling down, either hug a man and smell his chest or armpits or slap some of this on). Yet to try it on my girlfriend when she was menstruating or PMSing, but at other times she was very happy and content for hours at a 20 mcg dosage. At 50 to 60, you carry a walking cloud of bliss about with you. Some indications of interest will spring up at this point. Will keep as a staple. That’s it for now. Placing another order soon. Likely TAC, TAH, P95, MX297, IO and IG. I’ll edit this first post from time to time and add new ones every once in a while. Thanks for reading. ---
**Author:** ![Wyatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Wyatt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wyatt)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wyatts-once-in-a-while-journal/58104/2 "2013-06-25T19:20:17Z")
As the title says, it’s my once-in-a-while journal and it’s been awhile… Since the last update I still don’t really have a much better handle on P83. I ONLY add it to a sex mix just before sex pretty much. Still feeling like a beat puppy from the times I’ve OD from different mixes where I think P83 took a bad vibe and made it worse and man did it make those days and nights bad… Going to have to solo it more. With that said, I’ve since placed two orders and have tested/heavily tested new products from both Androtics and Pheromone-XS. First up: Androtic’s TAC, [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. AD also included a togo bottle of P102, but yet to crack it open. I had also received two togos of P74, but over half of one was lost due to leakage and the other I’m still testing, but don’t have a full handle on how it affects others yet. Second up: Steve O’s Pheromone-XS’s Bliss and Odyssey. I also asked for a sample of Flirt and Exotica. Steve sent a 1ml sample of Flirt but so far it’s been a dud for me and he also sent a WHOLE bottle of Exotica in FXS scent for testing since he saw that I was in Japan. Testing on Exotica is still on going so I’m not going to post the results just yet. \*\*Androditics Direct’s products: TAC\*\* I read a lot about it when making my first purchase of mones on AD’s site but I didn’t have the cash at the time. I got it in the Chocolatini scent at a 30 mcg spray. I prefer more mone to less scent and also to save shipping charges to Asia. **Dosage:** One or two sprays under my jaw line. (30 or 60 mcg) **Self effects:** Mood, hard to say, I feel a slight buzz so something is working, but yet to pin it down. However, it instantly makes the tip of my nose feel cool/cold in my head, but it’s warm to the touch with my finger. I can’t decide if it’s the Chocolatini scent or the TAC. It affects my dreams. Very vivid, wild and memorable dreams each and every night I wear it. I’m a master at dreaming and put 22 years into learning and mastering pretty much everything to it. TAC is as powerful and more consistent than chewing a handful of green pepper seeds for dreaming. (A1 also useful for dreaming but not in the same league). None buffer. TAC instantly buffers most of the negative feelings that I get from wearing high none products such as TUTH. It’s completely changed my game when it comes to TUTH. Before I just wouldn’t cross wearing two sprays of TUTH due to self effects alone and would ghost or creep out many a youngin to now I’ll take it up to four sprays and find the self effects manageable while still turning on the older ones (one or two sprays of TUTH for young women with 1 spray of TAC as a buffer, three to four sprays of TUTH with 2 sprays of TAC as a buffer for the older ladies). **Affect on others:** Other than buffering TUTH, no noticeable affect on men. On women, I think they are more relaxed, but hard to say. More testing needed, but it’s my none/TUTH buffer. In the bedroom: As reported by others, I think it helps women come harder. Yet to fully confirm that but will keep testing. Well worth the purchase as a none buffer. **Instant Gentleman:** Neroli scent, non-offensive. I just wasn’t into Alpha like products as normally I’ve been a lone wolf and do my own thing. I wish I had bought Instant Gentleman earlier. **Dosage:** One to two sprays on the left side of my neck. **Self effects:** An ever so slight buzz when applied. As a solo purchase, it’s not really worth it for me, but when paired with either Instant Honesty or Instant Openness magic happens. Paired with Instant Openness: I can’t say I become the man, but people start to treat me that way. Salutes, wtf is up with that? Just not used to it nor interested, but wow, strange. The main thing is when in a group of peeps (and I’m in the mood) I’ll lead things, conversation flows and I’m usually the centre of attention, with peeps deferring to me/listening to me more. I’m finally used to it now and I am starting to pull off that vibe without wearing IG and IO now. Paired with Instant Honesty: I am the man, but light edition. I speak my mind, I respond without hesitation, I approach men and women, I act first and don’t listen to worry. I still get the weird salutes the odd time, and deference, but I don’t like that shit and wave it off and try to bring the best out of the peeps around me and within myself. It’s a no BS, yet relaxed directing my ship vibe/attitude when wearing these two together. Yet to pull this vibe off solo without these mones on, so going to keep working it until I do. **Affect on others:** Light to moderate respect, light to moderate status. It puts peeps at ease when I’m about them. They view me as someone desirable to know. (This is with IG paired with either IO or IH). However, everything I’ve mentioned barring the self effects of IG+IH is truer with Asians over other races. It’ll be the same, but not as pronounced as with Asians. Something about IG and the vibe it gives that they just love. **Instant Openness:** Neroli scent, non-offensive. My first dud from AD. It’s not that the stuff doesn’t work, but I should be able to apply it solo and see something happen and notice something happen to me personally at one or two sprays. I’ve read most of the amazing results are from 5 to 6 sprays. That runs counter to my philosophy that is it should be noticeable at 1 or 2 sprays, not to mention that Androtics charges a small fortune for this stuff and I can’t afford to slap on 5 to 6 sprays to see the results, nor do I want to smell like I dashed on a handful of cologne. **Dosage:** One to two sprays on the right side of my neck. **Self effects:** An ever so slight buzz when applied. As a solo purchase it’s a total dud. Yet to notice a damn thing. When paired with Instant Gentleman plus Instant Shine or Shine plus Ammo and in the right environment then magic can happen; that is gabbiness abounds and laughter is in the air. **Affect on others:** Again as a solo purchase a total dud. A room full of kids, nada, not a dang change. A room full of adults, nada not a dang thing. A room full of elderly peeps, nada, again not a dang thing. However when paired with Instant Shine and something else magic happens, a party springs forth and laughter is in the air. I am actively seeking a replacement for it for the same price or less, but yet to find it. If I don’t I’ll still keep using it, but I really wish they’d dose it so it’s useful at one or two sprays and is worth it solo, too. **Instant Honesty:** Neroli scent, non-offensive. This stuff is subtle. It sneaks up then ambushes you, with you going what the heck was that? **Dosage:** One to two sprays on the right side of my neck. **Self effects:** No buzz or an ever so slight one when applied. I really don’t notice much solo until I open my mouth… You really, really, really have to mind your tongue or you will spill your secrets. **Affect on others:** You won’t notice much if anything at all unless you’re talking. Heh, if talking peeps will tell you pretty much anything that they think is pertinent to the conversation. They won’t blather and gab, but be direct and to the point and you’ll be the same. BS isn’t on the table when this stuff is in the air. Again as mentioned earlier, I LOVE this stuff when paired with Instant Gentleman. I act before worrying, I speak my mind and I speak honestly, I approach people. This stuff when paired with Instant Gentleman is a nice guy with balls. You act, you act, you act, yet you’re calm and relaxed about it. **Pheromone-XS’s products:** **Bliss** Bliss is Pheromone-XS’s flagship product. To sum it up it has two main effects: I don’t give a f **k and I’m mellow and happy and because I don’t give a f** k nothing is going to get me out of that vibe. **Dosage:** One (trying for less than one spray at present) on my adam’s apple. **Self effects:** BAM! Hit over the head wooziness, even stronger than when I first applied Instant Shine double strength. I had to grab the wall/door to both gage the scent and how I was feeling and to also keep my balance. I was still woozy for a little over two hours post… This stuff hits me like a truck. It changes my going places walk to mellow, I’ll get there when I get there. (The only mone to really change my walk so far). As mentioned before you really don’t give a damn about things that bother you. It places you in a mellow but happy bubble and not much if anything will shake you out of it. Forgot something at home, no biggie. A big bill to pay, no biggie, you’ll make it. Walk up and talk to peeps, whoops forgot all about that habitual anxiety that normally would get in the way, er wait, why talk to peeps, I’m just happy and doing my own thing. **Affect on others:** I frankly don’t know. I’m naturally a lone wolf so when I wear this stuff I just do my own thing and go about my business and I don’t pay too much attention to others. I’m in my happy mellow bubble and see no need to get out. Yet to decide on where and when to use it barring sales and for sales only for dealing with approach and outcome anxiety. I’m guessing I should dilute it with 3 to 5 parts vodka to 1 part Bliss so I don’t OD on my presentation. I want to kill my anxiety, but still be focused and desiring a positive outcome for myself and my client. At full strength, I don’t think I’ll frankly care all that much about the presentation or the outcome and this will be hazardous to my business. Another major drawback is that most of Steve’s mones are way, way, way over the top, and this along with Exotica burn the tar out of me by the end of the night with effects lingering to the next day. This stuff lasts 10 hours at least with full effects for the first 3 hours, and still very, very strong until 7 or so hours. **Odyssey:** Clary Sage scent. I’ve read some peeps love, some hate it, some think it smells like weed. To me it smells like sage, with a nice dill pickle tang. I can detect a weed like scent, but the sage and dill pickle are far more pronounced to my nose. This pheromone was originally made by Michael Harris, I gather the first real god of pheromones and whom got the whole business started. I’ve read he made this for fun while at Androtics and he named the mix Spaceland. I read many a review about Spaceland, but frankly none of them, none at all does this stuff justice. AD should probably bring it back, but for many it’s a niche product. Steve O finally received enough requests so he made some. I was too late in ordering so I bugged and begged on his site for him to make some more… **Dosage:** One to two sprays spread all under my neck. **Self effects:** I thought Bliss and Instant Shine hit me hard. DAMN! This went from I’m a normal guy about to spray on some pheromones to wow, I have a huge energy buzz, super giddy, laughing, mumbling and giggling out loud with this total take on the world, let’s party, party, party, do something fun/amazing attitude. Very, very quickly though that starts to wear off. Coincidently so does the clary sage scent… I think they’re locked hand in hand with the effects you notice. Within 15 minutes it’s down to a high energy, gabby, fun, fun, fun vibe (you really come down from a good spot and in a hurry). This hangs for about 45 minutes. By two hours I’m just fairly gabby. By 5 hours I can still feel it a bit, but my god it’s nothing like the first 1 to 15 minutes (particularly the first 5). **Affect on others:** I’ve yet be around others for the first minute to two minute hit and effects, the one time though was within two to three minutes and the whole room lit up with fun, fun, fun, chat, chat, chat. I loved the stuff. The other time was 5 minutes post with one peep then 30 minutes post with some others that showed up later and the night was a blast. Odyssey/Spaceland will likely not get you laid, but for just having a ton of fun, it’s the go to mone for me. I’ll be trying to find some clary sage and applying it on my neck as a test to see if I can extent the amazing, but very short lived effects of this product. On that note, likely no more updates until I finish testing Exotica and also likely buying a few more mones, some from AD and some from other vendors. Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![XyzN](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xyzn/32/2416_2.png) [@XyzN](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XyzN)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2013, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/wyatts-once-in-a-while-journal/58104/3 "2013-06-27T14:59:35Z")
I don’t really mind the scent of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) > [@Wyatt](#): > > **Ammunition** > > it smells like a nasty soap/shampoo. _grabs Ammo and smells it again_ omg you’re right lol 😃