# Xiphoid's Web

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [January 16, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983 "2009-01-16T22:27:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/41 "2009-02-17T22:05:39Z")

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> [@Xiphoid](#):
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> I’ve now confirmed my hypothesis as to why Diane can use a lot higher doses of TAF than I do withut getting any weird effects.
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> We both have ADD so react differently to the TAF than other users here on he forum, but I use a lot less than her…My thoughts on the reason for that was that she doesn’t currently medicate for her ADD, whereas I do, so I use TAF as a complement to my regular meds.
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> Today, being the weekend and all, I didn’t have the need to really take a full dose as I’m not on call. So I decided to only take half of my normal dose and add some TAF. Normally when I add TAF I apply about 20 mcg and that’s great as an add-on to my meds.
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> Today I sprayed on 25 mcg after only taking half my dose of meds…I might as well have sprayed myself with water! It did absolutely F\*\*\* all 😮 Nothing…no extra focus, motivation or anything…
> 
> I added another 10mcg an hour later, and if I sit and really think about it I could say there is possibly a tiny bit motivation, but no improvement in focus…The motivation is so slight I’m not sure if it’s even from the TAF, it might well just be the stress about my clinical exams that are coming up in 3 weeks…🙄
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> I should have tried this yesterday! If I had then I could have tried an even higher TAF dose today…but it’s already 2pm here so I don’t want to risk messing my sleep up…maybe next weekend 🙄

Xiphoid,  
So TAF doesn’t work as well for you when you take half your dose of meds? I guess being on less of a dose of meds would lead to a comedown and having TAF on couldn’t ‘compensate’ enough for that.  
How have you found TAF to affect your quality of sleep - do you try and wash it off before you go to bed?

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/42 "2009-02-17T22:21:47Z")

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> [@Socrates](#):
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> Xiphoid,  
> So TAF doesn’t work as well for you when you take half your dose of meds? I guess being on less of a dose of meds would lead to a comedown and having TAF on couldn’t ‘compensate’ enough for that.  
> How have you found TAF to affect your quality of sleep - do you try and wash it off before you go to bed?

Yeah, I think I’d need to go a lot higher with the TAF to get an effect if I halve or don’t take my meds…Seems that way at least 🙄

I haven’t washed TAF off at night, but I do only apply it in the morning or early during the day since it lasts so long…I don’t get wired or anything by TAF, but it does affect my sleep…I can’t sleep if I apply it in the afternoon/eve as my brain is still awake and up & running from the TAF when I go to bed. I don’t think this is the TAF doing it though, I think it’s just the TAF extending the effects of my regular meds as TAF only makes them work for longer and slightly “sharper”… TAF doesn’t seem to push me over the edge & give me a buzz like caffeeine can do if I have to many coffee’s in a day when I’ve taken a full dose of meds…

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/43 "2009-02-18T02:34:11Z")

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Very interesting commentary and we do have others who come in from time to time with the same issue/type of meds. Good details to know - also good to have someone to send them to for advice.

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/44 "2009-02-23T20:09:52Z")

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TAH or TAL for TG?

Ok… I’ve been meaning to give an update on events with my TG… He was supposed to help me out with teaching the med students how to suture.

When I arrived to work in the morning that day I didn’t see his motorbike but didn’t think about it too much… Then in the evening I got ready and went over to the med school for the event… He was supposed to come at 6.30 but didn’t show…nor did he call me 😠 I was not happy…all prettyfied with brand new TR jeans and a shitload of cops…which btw lead to another one of the surgeons crackin on to me like his life depended on it, and one of the students asked me out for coffee…So pherowise it was a success…

Anyhoo… Thu I get to work, and again…no bike 😕 I figured maybe he was off sick… when he asked for my number he put it in his contacts for Outlook (?) or whatever calendar he uses on the computer as we don’t have mobiles with us in theatre obviously… So I thought he might have been off sick & didn’t have remote access from home and that’s why he didn’t call to let me know he couldn’t make it…

So, Friday morning, (still no bike), our 2 ward rounds crossed paths. I didn’t see him as I had my back turned (but I wore a tight skirt today so he would have seen my bum 😃)… I felt a tap on my shoulder and when I turned around there he was. I smiled and said hi…he begins to apologise about Wed night, said he was in theatre until 9pm and lost my number. Then he said he tried to call the med school but noone picked up (but who would after hours?)… I was as usual so on clouds I didn’t notice how different he acted to what he’s normally like… I just smiled at him again, said no worries and joked about the fact that I got the bottle of wine he was supposed to have recieved as a thank you.. He gave a shy smile and said “Im sure you’ll enjoy it this weekend”…and then he apologised again before I got dragged off by our wardround…

When the two ward rounds were separated again my clinical partner goes; What the heck was up with him? He wasn’t talking like a surgeon! I didn’t get what he meant so asked… He goes; Well, he’s normally so confident and such a surgeon, but he was all mumbling and nervous… And I realised he was… soooo unlike my TG, he’s normally such a straight alpha…

So…

- Why does an alpha guy suddenly get all shy and mumbling?
- Why would he say he lost my number? I mean, how do you loose a number from contacts on the computer?  
\*Was he embarrassed his colleagues were there or do I make him nervous?

I wasn’t wearing IS/a or TAL heavy stuff today actually like I normally do when I have an excuse to go near him… I went with a pure cops & TAH mix…

I reckon that my TG is more of a TAH man than a TAL man… Yes, I do get straight hits, with TAL and cops, but they are the horny, drooling type gazes… Today with TAH and cops he was completely different. I do like the hits I get from TAl with him, but I have a feeling the TAH is the way to go if I want to get him on the hook for more than just a horny fling. 🙄  
Maybe it’s the TAH making me more girly and feminine which makes him feel more manly? Maybe I should keep going with the TAH to soften my tomboyish vibe that suits my career role so well but obviously does my lovelife no favours 🙄

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/45 "2009-02-23T20:44:14Z")

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He’s totally into you, that’s what! 🙂 It’s VERY obvious. Guys are simple creatures in reality. Trust me (with a chuckle, based on my man-drama at the moment), guys normally act very in line with their thoughts. So, if he’s trying to reach you, if he apologizes to you the first moment he sees you again for not reaching you, if he says he lost your number - believe it. It’s most likely true. (My man-drama stems from mixed signals - I’m horrid at those.)

He was probably nervous you were going to be upset or mad - good job playing it cool and normal. Probably put him at total ease and made him happy, knowing you weren’t going to blow up. Have you given him your number again? If not, I’d walk him all confident and give him my number again, maybe on three diff post-its, cleverly hidden in areas where he and only he can find them (locker, his computer/work station, his computer) or more ballsy in front of people at lunch. Make sure you flirty say that you’re giving it to him (and backups, if done) so that he doesn’t loose it again. 🙂

You mentioned he’s a surgeon, and I am assuming you’re a med student of some level, so there’s probably an age difference? The way you describe yourself sounds hot, so I am assuming you’re smoking. For many guys, if a younger, totally smart, totally hot girl shows an interest in them (which, it seems like you finally “told” him how you felt one day with your total confidence mix), it’s total nerves time - especially if they like you back, in any way other than a shag. Just a shag, no problem, no sweat. Anything else, or more reciprocal feelings or emotions, and it’s nerves time!

Remember - Pheros are 10%. YOU are 90%. The pheros have helped to snag him, but you are going to keep him. BTW, have you thought about how to break it to him that you wear pheros??

GREAT update, I’ve been wondering what was up with you two. 😃 When are you going to ask him out for a drink? After your exams?

I was reading my notes this morning and discovered that I have the same problem as you. TAL is great for me professionally - gives a Take No Shit vibe off and increases my status in everyone’s eyes. That can be very sexy in its own right, and probably one component of the attraction you and he have. However, for straight up seduction, it’s not so great. A good mix, TAL at times for confidence, and TAH for seduction would probably be good. You dont need to worry about catching him though - I say he’s yours!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/46 "2009-02-23T20:53:09Z")

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> [@jlor1457](#):
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> You mentioned he’s a surgeon, and I am assuming you’re a med student of some level, so there’s probably an age difference? For many guys, if a younger, totally smart, totally hot girl shows an interest in them (which, it seems like you finally “told” him how you felt one day with your total confidence mix), it’s total nerves time - especially if they like you back, in any way other than a shag.

No, there isn’t much age difference…He’s 36, so it’s only 4 years…  
I will make sure he gets my number…again… 🙄 but not until after the exams next week… I can’t afford any distractions…

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/47 "2009-02-23T21:35:08Z")

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Ha ha, yes yes, very cheeky grin there on you. “awkward teacher-student” thing and “age difference.” Hmph. 🙂 See if I give you happy advice again!

I think you’re golden on this one. granted, my advice means jack on this forum, but hey - opinions are like assholes - everyone’s got one!

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/48 "2009-02-23T21:43:16Z")

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> [@jlor1457](#):
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> Ha ha, yes yes, very cheeky grin there on you. “awkward teacher-student” thing and “age difference.” Hmph. 🙂 See if I give you happy advice again!

Hey, easy mistake…I keep talking about exams, I should have been more specific & said clinical/professional exams…and I do look younger than what I really am, most people put me at 23-24 (including my TG until I told him 32 a few weeks back 🙄)…I’ve had more than 1 patient say they prefer the older, more experienced one treat them…and then point to the med student who’s about 8yrs younger than me 🙄

Bring on the happy advice, keep it coming!

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**Author:** ![Tigerlilly](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tigerlilly/32/2257_2.png) [@Tigerlilly](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tigerlilly)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/49 "2009-02-23T23:13:38Z")

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No no, I"m giving you a friendly-hard-time now. That’s the dynamic I found myself in recently. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/50 "2009-02-26T16:43:40Z")

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Interesting mix

I was inspired by Lor’s journal entry about wearing Mx135…and since I love both the scent and the self effect I get from it I thought I’d wear it to work today as I felt in need of a bit of a pick-me-up 🙂 I added some Mx274 to give a calming vibe to the exam stress everyone is feeling, and of course…my lovely cops…can’t go snas cops 😃

It turned out to be a great day, but the most obvious hit was on the bus on the way to work…

**Product name,scent and strength**

- Mx135, choclatini
- Mx274, choc-cookie/grapefruit
- EoW, oil based in honey-musk scented oil

**Application dosage and locations**  
After my shower I added;

- 4 sprays Mx135 - 1 between wrists, 2 to chest/neck & 1 back of neck
- 3 sprays Mx274 - 1 between wrists, 1 to cheat/neck & 1 back of neck
- EoW oil - 6-8 drops dabbed behind easr, hairline, neck pulse points and wrist pulse points

**Enviroment tested in.**  
On the bus in to work, and hospital environment (normal room temp)

**Self effects.**  
I felt happy, in a very good mood…Mx135 always does that. Not quite party, party excited but in very good spirits looking forward to my day. I also felt a calm and focused feeling that I attribute to Mx274. And, of course a pinch of saucy naughtiness…don’t know if this is cops self effects as much as it’s a placebo effect because I know what I’m wearing 😃

**Effects to others**  
I got on the bus and it wasn’t so cold today so I loosened my scarf a bit. A few stops later a man in his mid 40’s gets on, doesn’t seem to be a morning person and doesn’t really pay any attention to me. He sits down across the isle from me, so roughly 3 feet away. A minute or two later he just does a 180! He tuns his body my way and just stares at me… DIHL! I look away and ignore him…

Another minute passes…he repeats the same thing again! I continue to stare straight ahead ignoring him…

Another minute or so later…he places his bag on his lap…and he’s not trying to score karma point by making room for others…the bus is hardly half full 🙄

Another minute of so and he’s quite fidgety…keeps tapping his fingers on his leg…adjusting his shirt collar like he’s being strangled or it’s stinking hot 😛

He continues to stare at me the whole way in to work…at first it was kinda amusing in a “cool hit to report” kinda way…but after 7 blatant DIHL’s he’s sliding into sleezy creep territory…

Anyhoo…after the bus gets in to the hospital I take off and head in to my department, and managed to loose him 🙂

**Duration of effects.**  
Self effects wore off around lunchtime as usual so I got a good 5-6 hours worth  
The man on the bus was approximately 1 hour after the initial application

**Range**  
As always…most people I noticed effects on where reasonalby close by. the man on the bus was about 3 feet away

**Time exposure**.  
A minute or two was all it took 😃

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**Author:** ![KatieA](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/katiea/32/1225_2.png) [@KatieA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KatieA)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/51 "2009-03-03T07:53:54Z")

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Haha, I like that saucy naughtiness effect you are describin’. 😉

I really want to try out Mx274, does it smell good?

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 10:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/52 "2009-03-03T10:24:53Z")

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> [@KatieA](#):
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> I really want to try out Mx274, does it smell good?

Mx274 smells yummy…It’s like chocolate cookies 😃 Not as strong as the chocolatini but there’s chocolate there…  
It’s not the Mx274 that does the saucy naughtiness tho… 😉

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/53 "2009-03-03T11:20:04Z")

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I was phero free today, I just pinched a spray of my wife’s MX274, now can’t stop smelling my wrist. I’m getting shivers down my spine and my concentration on my dissertation has disappeared.

Sorry Xiph, funny feeling that I will be holding onto this one to test it myself!

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/54 "2009-03-03T12:34:00Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
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> I just pinched a spray of my wife’s MX274, now can’t stop smelling my wrist. I’m getting shivers down my spine and my concentration on my dissertation has disappeared.
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> Sorry Xiph, funny feeling that I will be holding onto this one to test it myself!

Aahhwww…sniff…I thought you loved me ☹ 😉

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**Author:** ![diamond](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diamond/32/859_2.png) [@diamond](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diamond)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/55 "2009-03-03T12:42:32Z")

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Oh but I do love you 😉, however, since playing with that bottle, I’ve only managed about two hundred words, 1500 to go and deadline is tomorrow ☹ had to shower in TAF and [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) in an effort to concentrate…

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/56 "2009-03-03T13:22:52Z")

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> [@diamond](#):
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> Oh but I do love you 😉, however, since playing with that bottle, I’ve only managed about two hundred words, 1500 to go and deadline is tomorrow ☹ had to shower in TAF and P93 in an effort to concentrate…

See…bottle no love you…  
Mx274 no love you like I love you 😃

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/57 "2009-03-03T19:44:45Z")

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the guy on the bus wasnt a creep,  
but cops sure can bring out the “creepies” in someone.

we used to talk all the time about the proper use of cops, and how you _never_ wear cops unless you are around the person you want that kind of attention from.

one member used to remind the newbies of that all the time,lol, but we didnt listen.

she’s a smart gal.

i still wear cops almost everyday.  
i cant help myself,  
its too much fun.

i dont even mind the creepies anymore 😃

fun report there Xiphoid.

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/58 "2009-03-05T02:37:33Z")

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> [@Xiphoid](#):
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> Another minute or so later…he places his bag on his lap…and he’s not trying to score karma point by making room for others…the bus is hardly half full

LOL - you can commiserate with Msselva about unwanted weird attention on buses.

One of my favorite lines to the Mrs.: “Come sit on my lap and we’ll talk about the first thing that pops up”. 😮

Don’t laugh - sometimes I get “the look” 🙄 … but sometimes I get … a warm lap. 😃

That’s me - ever the incurable romantic … lol. 😛

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/59 "2009-03-05T14:40:30Z")

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Exam Up-date

Ok, so I had a few combo’s in mind for my clinical exams…picked a few brains on the forum too and eventually ended up wearing the following on the day of my exam;

- **Mx300** - 3 sprays (1 wrists, 1 chest/neck, 1 back of neck)
- **Mx274** - 4 sprays (1 wrists, 2 chest/neck, 1 back of neck)
- **TAF** - 3 sprays @ 12.5mcg (chest/neck)
- **IH2x** - 3 sprays (1 wrists, 2 back of neck/hair)

**Self effects** : I was very calm and relaxed. Not in a blase’ “I don’t give crap anymore” type way but just calm and centred. I was quite up-beat too, most likely due to the Mx274…I get a slight upbeat good mood feel from that one, not as much as from Mx135 but still noticable 🙂

**Effects on others** : I decided to catch a cab to the hospital I had been allocated to have my exam at. The taxi driver was the standard quiet almost grumpy “I’m just doing my job” type driver…for the first 5 minutes of the drive. Then he became quite chatty and nice. I told him I was going to the hospital for an exam and he chatted away about al sorts…

When we get to the hospital he drives me up to the entrance and asks; when does your exam finish? I can come back and pick you up. I then thank him but decline and say I’m taking the bus back…I only took a cab as I didn’t want to risk arriving late for my exam. He then goes on to tell me about the best bus to catch, where from and what time 🙄 Then he goes on to say; Go on love, go in, have a cup of tea and relax before your exam. You’ll do great! I say thanks and get out…as I walk off I hear him shout “good luck love” after me 😃

The exam itself went well…I’ve been given strict orders by Diamond that I’m not allowed to credit it to the phero’s though so I’ll just leave it at this… I got excempt from doing stage 2 of the exam, and this is only “awarded” to those who did really, really well in stage 1… 😉

Oh, and one of the patients told me her diagnosis (even though the patients are instructed NOT to do so)…I already knew what it was so it didn’t matter…the examiners looked a bit annoyed when she did that tough and asked a lot of detailed pathophysiology Q’s in the differential diagnosis viva part of the exam…but that went well 🙂 I’m not sure if it was the IH that did it, or if the Mx274 helped a bit too in making her want to help me along a bit 🙄

**Duration of**  **effects** : I applied the phero’s about half an hour before heading off in the cab. The exam took 2 hours and began approximately 1.5 hours after application… I definitively saw effects on both patients and both sets of examiners, but the most obvious was the first patient who told me her diagnosis…

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xiphoids-web/24983/60 "2009-03-05T15:18:19Z")

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Very nice and congratulations!!

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