# Xist pheromone **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 26, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491 "2014-07-26T13:57:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rydincoaster1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@rydincoaster1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rydincoaster1)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/1 "2014-07-26T13:57:46Z")
Hi everyone Sorry for not really being active on the forums. Anyway a few weeks ago I ordered Xist spray and Steve O being the nice guy he is gave me a small bottle of Taboo spray. Im wondering if anybody here has had good experience with those products. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/2 "2014-07-26T14:57:27Z")
Xist is an extremely interesting product but the return of certain putatives here last year have kind of taken the wind out of its sails a bit, whilst Taboo (which I’ve not tried) is maybe a more general-use product. You might find more useful discussion on PXS’s own board. ---
**Author:** ![eternitys\_child](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/73ab20/32.png) [@eternitys\_child](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/eternitys_child)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2014, 9:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/3 "2014-07-31T09:38:59Z")
Would you care to share what experiences you had with the product, if you used it at all? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2014, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/4 "2014-08-01T08:56:33Z")
You would be best to go to either the PXS board or one of the other boards discussing it - AFAIK, AD’s relationship with SteveO is still cordial so its best not to upset that. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/5 "2014-08-02T13:35:40Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Xist is an extremely interesting product but the return of certain putatives here last year have kind of taken the wind out of its sails a bit, whilst Taboo (which I’ve not tried) is maybe a more general-use product. > > You might find more useful discussion on PXS’s own board. I’ll never understand this. Unless people post with the intent of pissing people off, WHY on Earth do people buy a product from one place, and then go else where to ask about it? It’s just has to be a set up. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/6 "2014-08-02T17:01:34Z")
I’d like to see reports on epiallo; I know the chemistry, but not the in vivo effects. ---
**Author:** ![excalibur87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c37758/32.png) [@excalibur87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/excalibur87)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/7 "2014-08-03T00:56:32Z")
XiSt has 28.94 mg (= 28,940 mcg) total [pheromones](https://a314.com/) in a 10 ml spray bottle. How many mcg are in one spray ? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/8 "2014-08-03T01:30:39Z")
Call it 289.40 mcg, for simple math. Based upon 100 sprays. Damn that’s a lot of mones. I wanted to edit this post for clarity. LS and LAL (commonly understood acronyms for two vendors) have been in business for years. They sell 10 **milligrams** of chemset alpha and beta androsterone for about $60. A fair price. XS is said to contain both molecules and androstenone. The total quantity of mones is 30 **milligrams** , or 3 times more phero content per bottle than it’s nearest competitors, _excluding_ Androtics. The economics are difficult digest. A 30 milligram bottle from LS of a single mone would be ~ $180. Regular retail price of XS is **1/6th** of that, for 30 mg., 10 mL. This makes the LAL and LS mones about **$6** per milligram. XS is ~ **$1** per milligram. ---
**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/9 "2014-08-03T18:28:48Z")
XiSt is a very powerful product and was based off Mustangs “Instant Boyfriend” mix. P96 was one of the main drivers and AD didnt restock for a long long time… and then they were left with no choice but to start from scratch. I’ve tried P96 (with the original mix) since it came back into stock but IMO its just been exceeded by better, more complex products. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/10 "2014-08-03T19:23:30Z")
Specific neurotransmitter receptors in the nose are poorly indentified, if they exist at all (e.g. GABA); still, whether called “depletion,” downregulation or tachphylaxis, there is risk of rapid tolerance to megadoses of [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). The vendor’s addressing the technical topics would accrue to his credit. As would posting on the company website (as promised), legally binding technical _affidavits_ of product potency. _Exceptional_ claims call for exceptional proof. For example: _XS affirms, under the laws of Tennessee, that each product contains the specified milligrams total pheromone content and that each molecule’s quality and purity is the highest commercially available in North America or Europe._ [Tachyphylaxis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyphylaxis) ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2014, 11:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/11 "2014-08-04T11:02:44Z")
Raw Phero Mollecules, lower purity, made in China? Does Steve ever state where these are acquired? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/12 "2014-08-04T16:08:08Z")
Overall, there is no suggestion of an inferior product. However, the co-creator stated in a public forum that he’d had a period of two years during which he experienced no self effects from pheromones. This “burnout” is a real risk of megadosing. The product NPA has only 2.5 milligrams per bottle. Such excessive amounts are unnecessary. 50 mcg or pure -enone spray is a flamethrower. 1 spray of Xist has as much pheromone as 20 sprays of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/). What normal human wears 10 sprays of Instant Jerk? One bottle of XS’ product has \> 10 times more than NPA. **Why?** **Why is this even required or desirable?** If every other product works at no more than 10 milligrams per bottle, what’s the point. It’s a straight question that should carry a straight answer. There are hundreds of good LAL reviews, no of which claim they sell weak product. This is not an accusation, it is a question. 30 milligrams per bottle defies all logic and common sense. Here is the risk of OD/megadose on TAF, P75, TAA and some other mones: > [@TAF and Alcohol = not a good combination](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/taf-and-alcohol-not-a-good-combination/17266): > > Ok this is not my full TAF report but there is something interesting before i publish my full report. So everyone know the day after a big party… You head hurts, you feel terrible and your mood is down.. so i had this kinda day and decided to make some tests. 3 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2x fixed my mood and i started to feel better. 1 hour after application i decided to test TAF in this condition. 3 sprays TAF@15mcg on my neck. 20minutes later my head started to hurt more than usual.. The … Here’s the risk of -enone OD: “I want to warn you all to **BE CAREFUL WHEN USING ANDROSTENONE.** ” In other words, don’t take unnecessary risks in a dive bar. > [@Public Announcement: Why I am no longer using androstenone](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/public-announcement-why-i-am-no-longer-using-androstenone/58048): > > Hi. I’m a 29 year old male, and i’ve been using androtics products, including androstenone, for several years. I am no longer using Androstenone. Why? Lately I have been finding it not that effective. Women are being repelled when I use androstenone more often than they are being attractive. There was a study I read on this forum that detailed an “exclusion” effect, known on the forums as “ghosting” that can cause women to be turned off. They think you are dominated by your sexual desires. The… The ideal way to conduct a _product review_ is to ask **hardball** questions. Not Larry King questions. 60 Minutes questions. ---
**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/13 "2014-08-04T23:38:06Z")
I’m not sure who told you there’s 50mcg of enone per spray of XiSt monesmadedoit… but I’m pretty sure that’s not the case. Also, experienced pheromone users are not averse to taking regular breaks when necessary and taking supplements to keep themeselves operating efficiently 😃 I saw someone mention B vitamins helping with fatigue from phero use and have found them to be quite helpful myself. Also, you should note that when you make statements like that you should also take diffusion into account. So [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) has 2.5mcgs per spray… okay, but it lasts 2-4 hours max (for me anyway). The PXS products may be packed with ridiculous amounts of pheromones, but I’ve seen strong effects from them many many hours later in the day - up to 9-10 hours, and probably more if I was still out. Actually, I know when mones are still working when I’m not out because I have trouble going to sleep. Similar to how oil products would have a lot more pheromone content per drop than a spray - it diffuses at a different rate. They probably use different ratios of fixative to alcohol, and likely different grades. Just because a vendor uses “logic defying” amounts of pheromones per product doesn’t mean its just for show. They do have a purpose. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/14 "2014-08-05T00:50:40Z")
How much -enone and erone does the product contain per spray and are the molecules equal or superior in quality to competitors? It takes _5 minutes_ to post a one-paragraph affidavit or certification to a website. Most consumers don’t need or understand TLC reports, although XS has promised to post them for over one year. LAL, LS and Androtics have been in business collectively 30 years. How does a company sell molecules at 1/6 the price of competitors and stay in business? Setting aside Androtics, LAL is highly reputable. Are they gouging their customers by charging $68 for 10 milligrams of epiandrosterone? How much -enone is in the product and why is it such a secret? IJ has 12.5 mcg, all versions of AMMO have 2.5, A314 is presumed to have \<1 mcg, and IG has zero. Again, what’s the secret? And where do the mones come from that they are so dirt cheap? An **affidavit** is a written\* [sworn statement of fact](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath)\* voluntarily made by an affiant or deponent under an oath or affirmation administered by a person authorized to do so by law. Such statement is witnessed as to the authenticity of the affiant’s [signature](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature) by a taker of oaths, such as a [notary public](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notary_public) or commissioner of oaths. An affidavit is a type of verified statement or showing, or in other words, it contains a verification, _meaning it is under oath or penalty of perjury_, and this serves as evidence to its _veracity._ [Affidavit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affidavit) The proprietor in question has admitted making message board posts that were not 100% truthful, or “jokes.” Is 300 mcg a joke or the truth? > [@](#): > > you should also take diffusion into account NPA has only 2.5 milligrams per bottle and is not a weak product. If Xist requires 30 milligrams to achieve the same level of effects, then logic suggests the diffusion is weak rather than strong. Nothwithstanding any proprietary diffusion, no other product on the market has 300 mcg per dose. Including the other AD and its silicones. Personal declaration: I do not accept affiliate commissions for pheromone reviews and am not an employee of any pheromone company, nor do I operate a commerical pheromone website. ---
**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/15 "2014-08-05T05:18:55Z")
Don’t get why you’re bent on trying to bring the XS line down man. If anyones used their products they could most likely vouch for their effectiveness and great prices. SteveO has gone out of his way to make sure I get my products and reshipped a package twice because they kept getting confiscated at Australian customs. He makes killer products that work for myself and others. So if what you say is true, then the same can be said for Androtics. How many times have we heard that nothing has changed in the a314 formula when it clearly has? how many false promises of re-released MX’s are we going to put up with, and insane prices for simple -nol based products like IO and IH? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/16 "2014-08-05T05:57:05Z")
The following is a direct quote, in his own words, from the proprietor of XS: “ **I used to _make up_ some outrageous claims with some molecules just to see how many others would follow suit. It became kind of a game with some of us.** ” What would one call a person who makes up and posts things that are not truthful? How many posts prior to 2013 on this board are true and how many are false? How many people ordered product because they placed their trust and faith in the sincerity of a person they genuinely thought was trying to help with honest advice? How does someone whose mission is to help the world do so by fabricating posts which are not true? Is this post real? > [@Micro-Dosing P76 - Hey Mister need a shine?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/micro-dosing-p76-hey-mister-need-a-shine/50434): > > I had a bottle of P76 at 2.5 mcg sitting around for a while and I don’t recall reading much about it. I did some research after I had tested it and discovered that most reports were 25 mcg and higher to less than ideal results. There seems to be something paradoxical at higher micrograms going on like sexual in nature, but to good for sex. Yep that’s what I wrote. I’m really unsure where I came across a 2.5 P76, but perhaps I obtained it when I picked up [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) at lower dosages. Well this weekend … Did this really happen, or is it only the product of an overactive imagination? Veteran users view molecule reports as **sacrosanct** and _don’t appreciate_ being made fools of. Does anyone in this thread have any affiliate sales commisions they’d care to disclose, to avoid any possible conflict of interest? I have none, BTW, and do so affirm under penalty of law. ---
**Author:** ![phertest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@phertest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phertest)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/17 "2014-08-05T06:20:03Z")
Okay here we go. Just to be super DUPER clear everyone is on the same page, I do have an affiliate [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) review website, and yes I make a small commission off sales referred. But really, I do NOT fabricate or exaggerate - in fact, I very clearly list negatives of any products I review, call out shady behaviour, and actively encourage people to work on themselves in all areas (health, fitness, wealth, hobbies, style, etc) to become a well rounded, attractive human being. I’ve only reviewed one XS product in depth and will do others later. I reiterate my points over and over again on my site so everyone knows its not full of shit. Anyway, Monemadedoit, can you post a direct link to that comment? I don’t know SteveO personally. All I know is that his products work, and well at that. I’m not going to try and defend a comment like that, and if that’s the case then its no skin off my nose. I don’t know or care why you’re personally trying to bash him on the forum because I don’t really have time to argue over pointless stuff on the internet on a pheromone forum. If you’re going to bash products, at least turn your attention onto mass marketing machines like Pherlure and other complete pheromone scams. They probably make a lot more money, and it might be more worth your time to persuade people to buy AD stuff instead. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2014, 6:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/18 "2014-08-05T06:57:25Z")
A search for the quote in Google should be productive. Hard reviews of pheromones require asking **tough questions** and demanding tough answers. It requires a fearless and unbiased search for the truth…and the _courage_ to accept that some people are _not_ what they may seem to be. Xist has many positive reviews. It is a good product. However, it’s advertised as containing more mones at a cheaper price than virtually any other competitor. It is not only wise but necessary to ask if this advertising is, in fact, true. There is no need for anyone to be defensive. If the claims are true, the website should be prepared to back all claims with an ironclad guaranty, without any hesitation and without blaming the messenger. > [@](#): > > I’m not going to try and defend a comment like that That shows admirable courage, exactly the kind one expects from a reviewer. Someone who shoots from the hip and pulls no punches. Since Androtics _owns_ this board, it is entirely suitable that its products are compared with those of competitors. It is a testament to free speech that they even allow such products to be mentioned. Even by others who treat them without courtesy and mock them behind their back. Present company excepted. The website said/says: “We are continually having each molecule assayed by independent third party laboratories…however not all components have been completed yet.” 6 months later, still no lab reports for epirone, erone or -enone, the main three molecules in XiSt. **Why this matters**. The top quality -enone is \> 98%. The analytic reference standard used in analytic laboratories to test samples for quality. This is the ExperiMone series. Let’s guess that a bottle of XiSt has a milligram of -enone. That will cost you about $30 raw from the chemist. A company has a right to protect its trade secrets. If XS were to post an affadavit stating all mones are certified analytic standard, that would suffice. What it really comes down to is that, if a company promises to do something, they do it in a reasonable time rather than make excuses. 6 months is **very** reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/19 "2014-08-06T00:24:53Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > I’ll never understand this. Unless people post with the intent of pissing people off, WHY on Earth do people buy a product from one place, and then go else where to ask about it? It’s just has to be a set up. 🆒 Agreed. It’s kinda weird that he posted in this forum. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xist-pheromone/62491/20 "2014-08-06T17:28:44Z")
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