# Xperiences with the Ammo and IFM **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 4, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958 "2007-08-04T21:55:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![icefire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/icefire/32/2139_2.png) [@icefire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/icefire)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/1 "2007-08-04T21:55:27Z")
Today, I went out with my friends (Some of are female). Before go, i wore about 4 sprays ammo (2 neck, 1 back of hair, 1 wrists) and 1 spray of IFM back of neck. After 2 hours later we met eack other. Unfortunately, I didn’t get any actual effects on girls. Just an eye contact with one of girl. This can be without any pheros in the life. What can I do to make girls talkative with me? I think IFM is suitable for this. But I didn’t get any positive effect? Well, What’s your suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/2 "2007-08-04T22:10:50Z")
> [@icefire](#): > > What can I do to make girls talkative with me? … Talk to them. Ask a question or how they feel about something. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/3 "2007-08-04T23:26:23Z")
Yep, most women only need a little encouragement to light up the verbal centers of her brain. Once you open the floodgates, it’s pretty hard to stem the flow. Incidentally you’re only 21 and probably have plenty of natural androstenone production. You used 4 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), approaching the amount a middle aged androstenone deficient man might use. Androstenone is known to impart an unfriendly badass vide when used to excess. You might wanta cut back to 1 or 2 sprays until you get older. Any androstenol heavy product works infinitely better at encouraging verbal expression than both Ammo and IFM. You might wanta combine initiating conversation with a few zaps of IH, CTTM or SOE. ---
**Author:** ![icefire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/icefire/32/2139_2.png) [@icefire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/icefire)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/4 "2007-08-05T09:59:48Z")
I have to accept 4 sparys of ammo is too much for me. After that, i’ll use 2 sprays of ammo and 1 spray of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). I think these doses is suitable for me. And what is your suggestion for the First-Time-Date with a girl. I’m obsessed using IFM too much because of it’s scent. By the way, do you know any normal edu da toilette, parfume or cologne which has a fragrance like Ammo’s scent. As a cover scent, same or similar scents may be suitable for covering. I wear Kenzo for covering but the scents are very different. And one more question. How often do you wear pheros? -wearing before going out somewhere -wearing once a week -wearing everymorning before go out just like that. I wear it before i go out somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/5 "2007-08-05T16:28:35Z")
> [@icefire](#): > > By the way, do you know any normal edu da toilette, parfume or cologne which has a fragrance like Ammo’s scent. As a cover scent, same or similar scents may be suitable for covering. I wear Kenzo for covering but the scents are very different. > [@Poll: Best smelling products](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-best-smelling-products/2925/5): > > Ammunition has a great smell because it is Nautica Competition Cologne Relaunch (More info in link below) > [@Poll: Best smelling products](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/poll-best-smelling-products/2925/5): > > Ammunition has a great smell because it is Nautica Competition Cologne Relaunch(the one in the yellow bottle). You can make any phero mix you want smell like ammo by just covering it with the Nautica Cologne. I was using this cologne to cover pheros before I found Androtics and it works great. > [@icefire](#): > > How often do you wear pheros? > -wearing before going out somewhere > -wearing once a week > -wearing everymorning before go out > just like that. I wear it before i go out somewhere. wearing everymorning before go out (and boost in late afternoon) Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 6:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/6 "2007-08-05T18:28:24Z")
I bought a bottle of Nautica Competition (funky yellow bottle) at Ross for $14.95. It smells almost exactly like Ammo and PP. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say 90% the same. Perhaps it is the same but the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) alter the scent. Although it not a world class cologne, I like the scent but tire of it quickly and need variety or my nose will stage a revolt. ---
**Author:** ![icefire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/icefire/32/2139_2.png) [@icefire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/icefire)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/7 "2007-08-05T21:01:55Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I bought a bottle of Nautica Competition (funky yellow bottle) at Ross for $14.95. It smells almost exactly like Ammo and PP. If I had to put a number on it, I’d say 90% the same. Perhaps it is the same but the pheromones alter the scent. Although it not a world class cologne, I like the scent but tire of it quickly and need variety or my nose will stage a revolt. Hmm. That’s cool. I looked for Nautica Competition and and it’s price is about 20 $. First I will look up on the stores where i live. If i cannot find, i can buy it online. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2007, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/xperiences-with-the-ammo-and-ifm/4958/8 "2007-08-05T22:18:39Z")
To make girls talkative with you, try this mix. 6 sprays CTTM 4 sprays IShine 2 sprays IFM When I say sprays, I mean from a full sized bottle. If you are using to-go, multiply these numbers by 1.2 and round up. This mix will make them talk your ear off, but it’s a lot of fun, too, although it only lasts for a couple hours without refreshing the nols and TAA.