# Yes..I am an idiot!...but i wanted to clear up two vocab terms **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 13, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132 "2006-12-13T02:19:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jking2006](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/4da419/32.png) [@Jking2006](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jking2006)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/1 "2006-12-13T02:19:53Z")
1 what is “Chikara” 2 what is “none” ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/2 "2006-12-13T02:34:53Z")
Heya, Welcome. Chikara is a product sold elsewhere – on the Love Scent site. “None” is the short form of Androstenone, the very male sex pheromone. You’ve got to have more questions that that!! C’mon, ease up, tell us a bit about yourself. How do you want to use [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)? ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/3 "2006-12-13T02:40:38Z")
> [@Jking2006](#): > > 1 what is “Chikara” > 2 what is “none” 1. Chikara is a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) sold elsewhere 2. short for Androstenone (aka -none, 'none, et al) ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/4 "2006-12-13T04:13:52Z")
There’s nothing idiotic about these questions at all. It’s VERY strange seeing the word “None” used as it is! 🙂 Anyway, I see the guys here answered your questions… but hi! Welcome. If you have any other questions, by all means ask. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/5 "2006-12-13T05:19:29Z")
The real idiots are the people who don’t like to ask and think that they know everything! Welcome aboard! God bless you. “There is no sin except stupidity” - Oscar Wilde Mohammad 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/6 "2006-12-13T05:34:11Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > The real idiots are the people who don’t like to ask and think that they know everything! > > Welcome aboard! God bless you. > > “There is no sin except stupidity” - Oscar Wilde > > Mohammad 🙂 Very true. Nobody knows everything. Isn’t it also said that the only stupid question is that one that goes unasked? ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 6:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/7 "2006-12-13T06:51:38Z")
None = Androstenone A1, dienone = androstadienone rone = androsterone a-nol = alpha Androstenol b-nol = beta androstenol EST = estratetraenol just for reference. maybe AD needs its own version of the pherolibrary. the offerings here are quite extensive. I think it would be a great resource to support the recent influx of new forum participants. ooooh maybe a wiki of some sort ---
**Author:** ![fkorr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@fkorr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/fkorr)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/8 "2007-08-26T15:17:32Z")
my teacher used to always tell us b4 class that there is no stupid question and the only stupid thing 2 do is 2 sit there wondering and not ask… so then after a few weeks go by we start asking really basic questions and he doesnt say anything but u can just see the reaction on his face its like - is this guy 4 real i cant believe hes askin me this - kind of look about him… its like hes really disccusded and just cant believe u dont get it . lol 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/9 "2007-08-26T17:02:32Z")
I got a question, whats HB? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/10 "2007-08-26T17:34:14Z")
HB= Hot Babe, as in HB9 means Hot Babe, a 9 on a scale of 0 to 10. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 8:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/11 "2007-08-26T20:33:56Z")
> [@](#): > > my teacher used to always tell us b4 class that there is no stupid question and the only stupid thing 2 do is 2 sit there wondering and not ask… so then after a few weeks go by we start asking really basic questions and he doesnt say anything but u can just see the reaction on his face its like - is this guy 4 real i cant believe hes askin me this - kind of look about him… its like hes really discussed and just cant believe u dont get it . lol He probably meant questions pertaining to topic at hand, not anything goes. Occasionally students in my classes ask an off-topic or out of context question. Such questions are disruptive to the class: eat up lots of time and irritate the other students. In consideration of your classmates, off-topic and out of context questions are best asked outside of class. I’ve also noticed a trend: students asking these types of questions tend to be stoned… ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/12 "2007-08-26T21:55:07Z")
Had a form of this conversation with my sons yesterday: William is 13, in seventh grade. One of his teachers is willing to entertain questions in class but - only in the class session where the topic is presented, or - in the review prior to a test which includes the topic, or - during “office hours” (before the first period class starts.) He (and his older brother Alex) seemed to think this was hypocritical, as long as the question was an honest one, and not intended to disrupt class. I think that with some classes of students, it takes a few repetitions before they actually believe that questions are welcome. So you might get a question in the fifth class meeting that would have been better asked in the first, or third meeting. Then the teacher has to choose between following the lesson plan or seizing “the teachable moment.” * * * When I took freshman economics in college, I had the advantage of age – I was then 27 years old. I understood the concept of and value of a model, of an abstract system, of a hypothetical “all other things being equal.” But for ten weeks, I watched 94 out of 99 students absolutely **stuck** on the problem of “oversimplifying reality” in presenting macroeconomic concepts. The handful of us who “got” the idea of an economic model found one another and watched, fascinated, as time and again some student would berate the teacher or the teaching assistant for presenting something that “had no bearing on reality.” The questions and discussions in that class, mired in misunderstanding, certainly bored the hell out of me; but the majority of the students in the class wanted to pursue the matter, and the beleaguered teachers seemed trapped (the class/teacher rating system in use at the University actually had an effect on whether someone reached associate professor or, to a lesser degree, professor rank.) As a teacher, I think it is always safe and fair to ask the class “Great question! Who else would like to pursue this now?” and unless there is at least a sizable minority, to put the topic in the parking lot and take it up with the student(s) off-line. ---
**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/yes-i-am-an-idiot-but-i-wanted-to-clear-up-two-vocab-terms/1132/13 "2007-11-19T18:36:37Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > Very true. Nobody knows everything. ahem… Speak for yourself MHarris! I went to school, and I actually…almost graduated on time… So I guess that statement applies to almost everyone 😜