# 'Younger man's A314' fuzed with the 'cool guy vibe': combining MX105 with P74 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 26, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929 "2007-11-26T10:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 16
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2007, 11:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929/16 "2007-12-01T11:47:28Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > I’ve never tried higher doses of p74. All I’ve gotten was a little to go bottle, so I’ve been weary of trying a megadose only to not come in contact with many people that day and wasting half the bottle. Also, it was part of the MX156-159 package and it came with an ammo scent. I dare not go up too high cause I don’t want to knock people over with my scent. I’d order some more… but it appears I don’t have access to the advanced section, yet. 😠 Everything is “out of stock.” > > Oh, well, guess I gotta keep posting and be patient. Well I would be interested in hearing of your results if you did try reasonably high doses of P74 (50 mcg and above). Remember to try the trick I mentioned above of adding a communication-enhancing pheromone (like Alpha-Androstenol) say 3 hours after application of the P74. You should definitely notice the P74 coming out again bigtime when you spray on the communication-enhancing pheromone. **I do propose that MX105/P74 could be put in an oil-base together as both elements last a decent length of time. In that way it may be a similar ‘base’ mix to A314 in a way - but more easygoing, and suitable at displaying high social value first and foremost and also better at appealing to the younger crowd.** **I actually think the MX105/P74 combo does need an additional element added to it. The ‘third pillar’ of this powerful and revolutionary formula should be the old classic ‘social’ pheromone, Alpha-Androstenol itself.** **One of the primary testers of MX105, Sigma, described the way that Alpha-Androstenol and MX105 mix really well together creating a ‘socially alpha’ vibe (see pasted posts below). Given my theory that P74 needs an added communication-enhancing pheromone to be at its most consistent, Alpha-Androstenol would seem to be the natural addition to the ‘Younger man’s A314’/‘Cool guy vibe’ combination.** **And we all know how useful Alpha-Androstenol is as an addition to any mix. I have pasted in some posts from MHarris on this pheromone to remind of us. Also it is no coincidence that two of the biggest names in the pheromone world, James V. Kohl and George Dodd, both use Alpha-Androstenol as a key ingredient in their products…** [MX105: my favorite of the A314 test series, very much an A314 for young guys - #7 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx105/1405/7) ([MX105: my favorite of the A314 test series, very much an A314 for young guys - #7 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx105/1405/7)) Sigma (February 27, 2007): “…MX105 and 103 are definitely more social versions of A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)), but they do kinda lack the ‘umph’ of [mx102](https://pheromonelabs.com/) professionally. I think there’s a bit of a trade-off..the less threatening you make [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/), the less of the high value effect you get. I still prefer [MX102](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for work and professional settings…**I just really like the way [MX105](https://pheromonelabs.com/) mixes so well with Alpha Androstenol. Very socially alpha. cool vibe.**” [So is 105 available or what?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-is-105-available-or-what/3502/14) ([So is 105 available or what?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/so-is-105-available-or-what/3502/14)) Sigma (May 12, 2007): “… **[MX105](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is more ‘socially alpha’. Blends well with Alpha Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)). Has less of the power of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) Classic, but gives you that wonderful sense of ‘social control’ of yourself and others that [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) creates. Its far less socially heavy…but less of the intensity and adoration**…” [SOE vs ANDROTICS NOL SPRAYS](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soe-vs-androtics-nol-sprays/58/17) ([SOE vs ANDROTICS NOL SPRAYS](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/soe-vs-androtics-nol-sprays/58/17)) MHarris (December 14, 2005): “…**There’s simpler things you can do, too. A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)) is a healthy girl magnet, and “plain ol’” [Alpha Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) can get the smiles**…” [Sexual hits with nols: does heavy Anol from IO or IH dull TUTH's Anone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sexual-hits-with-nols/138/3) ([Sexual hits with nols: does heavy Anol from IO or IH dull TUTH's Anone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sexual-hits-with-nols/138/3)) MHarris (February 13, 2006): “…Remember, people actually _see you differently_ depending on the pheromones you wear. Their minds accentuate different characteristics of yours depending upon the “\*\*pheromonal feel” you’re putting out there. Lots of **Alpha Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/))** will help you to be viewed in a brighter and “softer light”. If you tend to come across a serious, it can be a godsend.\*\* If you’re flamboyant, and women commonly mistake you for gay (like a young Pauly Shore), then sure… high Alpha Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) may not serve you. I tend to wear darker colors, and I think a lot, so I naturally have lots of “thinking expressions”. Those make me look pretty serious. **Lots of alpha androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) actually helps me out a good deal. It carries along with it a fun, “good time” vibe.** \*\*To me, because I have a heavy persona, it’s still somewhat sexual. Sure, it’s not scary-sexual,\*\* like the folks like the folks who wear leather mask that want to flail you until you have a near death experience… **but fun & light still has a sexual element to it.** **Reframe it as “fun in bed”, and you’ll get what you mean.** You just don’t want to be _too_ fun… Richard Simmons/Pauly Shore type fun is probably far along the “fun-o-meter” (right into flamboyancy) to really be attractive. When they “hookup”, it’s because of the social proof elements of their celebrity.” [Sexual hits with nols: does heavy Anol from IO or IH dull TUTH's Anone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sexual-hits-with-nols/138/4) ([Sexual hits with nols: does heavy Anol from IO or IH dull TUTH's Anone?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sexual-hits-with-nols/138/4)) MHarris (February 13, 2006): “…**Right, there’s a strong “play” element to \*\*Alpha Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/))**. It’s actually perfect for meeting people, building comfort and attraction. Good pre-sex. Sometimes fun during sex – depends on how intense and serious you like yours sex.\*\*” [Suggestions for MHarris regarding future putative mones - #5 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-mharris-regarding-future-putative-mones/321/5) ([Suggestions for MHarris regarding future putative mones - #5 by MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/suggestions-for-mharris-regarding-future-putative-mones/321/5)) MHarris (April 29, 2006): “…\*\*While I don’t call alpha-androstenol a “[sexual pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/)”, it is still sexual in this way. Even if exposure doesn’t instantly evoke mental pictures of genitalia and ripplying muscles, it’s still has attributes which tie into our attraction triggering system. Spirited communication & feelings of elation _are_ sexy, _they are attractive._ So is the sometimes mental “stun” effect of Alpha Androstenol. Who do we tend to go mentally blank around, after all? _People we’re attracted to!_ \*\* \*\*The chatty effect, too. Who do women often chat like maniacs around? _ **People they’re attracted to…** ”_ [CTTM 2 and IH](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-and-ih/517/8) ([CTTM 2 and IH](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-2-and-ih/517/8)) MHarris (July 31, 2006): “…Or _any_ single pheromone **Heck, you can read “hit reports” at [basenotes.net](http://basenotes.net), a normal perfume site, for Andron. That came out out over 25 years ago (1981). Besides the fragrance, the only pheromone it contained was Alpha Androstenol. That’s it!** [http://www.basenotes.net/ID26120099.html](http://www.basenotes.net/ID26120099.html) ([http://www.basenotes.net/ID26120099.html](http://www.basenotes.net/ID26120099.html)) “I would give my left \_\_\_ to locate a case of this.” **Again… Alpha Androstenol, my friend. Just friendly ol’ Alpha Androstenol. (if you search around the forums a bit, you can see what I describe as the “blank effect” from Alpha Androstenol, which are brains can sometimes attribute to attraction)** Incidentally, our fragrances are designed for us by the same same fragrance technology development house that developed Andron for Jovan. So we’re actually the closest thing to Andron these days. Just updated with 25 more years of experience.” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929)._