# 'Younger man's A314' fuzed with the 'cool guy vibe': combining MX105 with P74 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 26, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929 "2007-11-26T10:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 23
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929/23 "2007-12-15T08:45:26Z")
Below are some posts summarising the problems with wearing anything but minimal doses A314 around peers in the younger (well lets say under 30) age groups. I am not saying that A314 shouldn’t be used by ‘younger guys’ - on the contrary it is a marvellous product in professional settings especially when communicating with ‘higher-end’ people and older people in general. Indeed 1 drop of A314 may add a little DHV signal to a mix. But IMHO it may not be such a good product to wear socially around a group of younger friends for example… [Does Androstenol affect men negatively?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/13) ([Does Androstenol affect men negatively?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/13)) Sigma (September 12, 2006): “…Depends on how you look at it, and it really depends on what you’re going for. On one end, Alpha Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) tends to make people more open and receptive to you, thus making them more receptive to the positive effects of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/). This is also buffers against the distancing effect that [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) can often have. On another note, Alpha Androstenol does detract from the mysterious inner-intensity of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/), by making you a little too up-beat, open, and easy-going, when used excessively. I’m seeing great results with [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (Alpha Androstenol) based mixes currently. The synergy created by the two products projects a ‘socially alpha’ type of image, which is most beneficial in the types of interactions I’m in\*\*. Mixes high in [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and none create too much distance, and while it might create a strong alpha image in some aspects, the distance these products tend to create can keep you socially out of the loop - this is hardly an ‘alpha’ position to be in.\*\*” [Hello I'm New - #6 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-im-new/1291/6) ([Hello I'm New - #6 by sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hello-im-new/1291/6)) Sigma (December 27, 2006): “For the afformentioned mix, I usually apply 3 drops of A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)) oil (when I still had that), 4 sprays shine, 4 sprays honesty. But using that mix 5 days a week at work got rather costly after awhile, so I only use it when I’m meeting with clients, or will be socializing with a lot of professionals…luncheons and what-not. On days when I’ll be cramped up in my cubicle all day, I usually stick with [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) by itself and it works well enough. I get the much needed added respect around the office…much needed because I’m the youngest person in the office, while also lacking the degrees, designations, licenses, and **experience** that everyone else in the office has. I’ll be graduating with a degree in Finance in May, so a lot of that will come soon enough, but I honestly still feel a little overwhelmed trying to learn everything. From what I can tell about the effects of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) in the office though, it seems that I appear more competent than I really am. Not to diss myself, but I’m very much in a learning stage…and given how heavily regulated the financial services industry is…I’ve got quite a lot to learn. I don’t have a problem with people viewing me as too young and inexperienced at all, rather they seem impressed that at my age I know so much, or that I’m doing what I’m doing. I don’t know how much of that to attribute to [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) without discrediting everything that I actually _have_ done, but I’m sure [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) has a lot to do with that. I like to add IS to the mix because of the sort of vibrance it contributes. It keeps things from being strictly serious in nature, and a little more inviting…I like my professional persona to be more upbeat and charismatic, but also in control, and professionally competent. I would add [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to the mix, but it can be excessively light-hearted for me. I tend to joke around a lot while wearing Alpha [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), and while I like the effect it has a lot when I’m more casual and laid-back, it doesn’t translate as well in professional settings. At my age, I really have to keep my professional persona, and my casual persona separate. I’ve paired [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) together a number of times in the past, mostly because I burn through IS bottles much more quickly than I will [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and had no choice but to leave it out. I haven’t had any problems with appearing too old or intense while wearing it as a business mix…appearing ‘older’ only seems to work in my benefit. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) seems to complement the effects of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) very well, as it also has a trust building element to it. People also seem to grow comfortable around me very quickly while wearing [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), which opens them up to the effects of [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) more quickly and promenently \*\* when it comes to using pheromones in professional settings in general, I don’t think I’ve ever had an issue with appearing _too old._ This only really tends to occur if I wear a highly serious and ‘older’ type mix in casual settings. Again I try to keep my professional and casual persona’s separate, and the mixes I use are reflective of these two ‘modes’ of mine. It might be a congruency issue, but when I wear something as overbearingly serious as [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) in a more casual setting, it can put me out of the loop, and its not cool. For this reason I tend to refrain from using [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) outside of professional settings, unless off-set with a high dose of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/).\*\*” [A314 mx 103](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-mx-103/795/9) ([A314 mx 103](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-mx-103/795/9)) Examine (October 27, 2006): “**btw. IMHO, I dont think A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)) is for younger folks. its much more of a professional product. that is the only reason I even got it–it took me awhile to figure out I couldnt wear it around peers my age.** usually i use it when im teaching a class of peers that are 30+. i look like im 22, so i sort of use it to command respect- “i am here to teach you, no i am not your son’s friend”” [A314 mx 103](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-mx-103/795/10) ([A314 mx 103](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314-mx-103/795/10)) Live4themusic(October 27, 2006): “\*_Right! I guess it seems like everyone in our age group (well 30 and below) is noticing the same thing about A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)). Now I know it has its uses for me, but for everyday wear I’m not going to be applying more than 1 drop anymore (especially since mutant is about 1.33 times as strong as regular [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) ) With only one drop I haven’t noticed any obvious effects, but that’s a good thing, because the effects I have noticed would not be good for social relations among my peers. So at one drop I believe my interactions are effected positively on a very subtle level. I feel like my peers take me more seriously, but not TOO seriously._ Now obviously its unfair to say that _no one_ around our age should be using [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/). In fact, I think it’s perfect for anyone interviewing or beginning at a job that’s perceived as higher-status or in an environment where most people are older, such as a young lawyer starting out at a big law firm. I could see [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) helping someone to move up the hierarchal ranks ahead of their time. I think it would be even especially useful for women trying to be taken seriously in a predominantly male setting.”\* [Goin' to College - #10 by smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/goin-to-college/5163/10) ([Goin' to College - #10 by smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/goin-to-college/5163/10)) Smn1234 (August 28, 2007): “**ya I remember using 2 drops of A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)) with 2 sprays of [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) at a club once… WORST idea… people around me kept saying.. what’s that smell? smells like an old man… age group: 21+ (supposedly)**” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929)._