# 'Younger man's A314' fuzed with the 'cool guy vibe': combining MX105 with P74 **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 26, 2007, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929 "2007-11-26T10:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 24
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2007, 9:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929/24 "2007-12-15T09:01:11Z")
Then there is the option of wearing the friendly molecules on their own. A classic friendly effect can be gotten from JVK’s Scent of Eros product (1 spray of Instant Gentleman added to 4 sprays of Instant Openness should give you a similar effect - the same approximate 4:1 Alpha-Nol to Rone ratio). Below are some posts on the Scent of Eros ‘lightweight effect’ that can happen for some people (only when it is NOT buffered by other things, of course, like [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) and/or [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) for example). To be fair some of the posts below highlight that one can make use of being ‘nice’ as well and I have included JVK’s response as well to be fair… Rob’s posts at the end of this compilation alert us to the fact that this effect is quite prevalent across virtually all the friendly molecules. Lets read the following lest some guy turns into a ‘goofy smiling candyass’ by wearing friendly molecules on their own around his peers and not acting ‘manly’ enough. Of course if you are good at flirting then this might not be a bad strategy but for your average guy I think wearing friendly molecules on their own wouldn’t be the best option (especially considering the variety of pheromones/mixes we now have at our disposal courtesy of Androtics)… * * * \*\*\*[http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823](http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823) ([http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823](http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5823)) bjf (February 24, 2003): " **Scent of Eros – Too Nice?** \*\*I wonder if some women are turned off with a guy with too much [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)…i.e. too nice, too wimpy, can walk all over him. \*\* maybe i am wrong about it." SonnyBlack (February 24, 2003): “**ive always wondered about this as well…I think girls see you as such (wimpy, weak, not able to protect them) when you have too much Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) on. Ive worn Scent of Eros a couple of times and and I kinda noticed such reactions while doing so…or maybe it was just that im used to having naturally high levels of none and when I added [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) it sorta freaked me out**…” bjf (February 24, 2003): "**the only time i have ever worn more [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) then none i thought a bunch of guys behind me were considering robbing me and a girl basically felt "wht can u do for me, you couldn't take care of me" type-deal. Guys were nice, except for the guys who wanted to rob me** /ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif . I am interested to see how women reacted to other guys with much higher [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to none/Androsterone ratio" Proteus (February 24, 2003): " **I tend to agree that with Scent of Eros you tend to be perceived as too nice - so especially when I hit the clubs if I use Scent of Eros I definitely use it with some -none, specifically JB#1**. But sometimes being perceived as " too nice " works great as you can move in on the ladies in kind of a stealth mode. Once I have her talking, which Scent of Eros is very good at doing, then I can use my skills to seduce her. If one approaches -Androstenol products from this perspective, you can in many ways be more successful with women than if you use -none products because they are already “comfortable” with you and if your seduction skills are good, then the rest is easy. I think of it this way - -none, when it works well, will have her ready to jump you without too much work, whereas -Androstenol may not induce this reaction, but from a percentage scale you can get to “talk” with a lot more women, and take it from there. So for the less skilled seductionists go with -none, but if you have skills, then I think -Androstenol products are much better for you. Just my two cents." franki (February 24, 2003): "…**The only problem with Androstenol ([Instant Openness – Ice Breaker Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)) alone, IMO, is that when you are already a nice guy yourself, and you are only wearing [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), you are missing something.** Personally I ALWAYS feel I am missing something when I don't put on the tiniest bit of none. I really don't believe in the theory that too much [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) (on its own) makes one too nice…" jvkohl (February 25, 2003): “Some people may be forgetting that -Androstenol has been shown to effect hormone levels (luteinizing hormone:LH, and follicle stimulating hormone) in women. This effect is always beneficial in other mammals; it is the typical response to pheromones from the opposite sex. An increase in LH will be followed by an increase in testosterone, which is very effective with regard to increasing libido, in both men and women. Scent of Eros may be too nice, but it also provides a nice push in the right direction: towards increased interest in sex.” `http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/showthread.php?p=183590#post183590` Shenandoah (April 27, 2006): “… **One does not want to over do the Scent of Eros. It could make you seem too friendly – that is a “push over,” a light weight, or a people pleaser** …” PheroBlog ([http://pheroblog.blogspot.com/](http://pheroblog.blogspot.com/)) Futurist (January 7, 2006): “…Scent of Eros – This has a [pheromone formula](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) that gives off social effects, such as chattyness. **Wear too much of it and you will seem overly wimpy.** A good product, but doesn’t serve as a sexual attractant as it claims to. However, if you are a clint east wood type guy, a biker type, a body builder, etc, then this will likely take away some of the intimidation you produce in women and make you more attractive…” [A314 is the best I've used but it's out of stock: when will it be back? - #21 by Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314/648/21) ([A314 is the best I've used but it's out of stock: when will it be back? - #21 by Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314/648/21)) Rob (September 26, 2006): “NPA can generate negative effects… but you must take into account all pheremones do. The way I see it.. if androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) gives an extra sex vibe, I’m sure I can put up with alittle bitchiness=) **Then again things like too much -nols or comfort [pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a314/648) may have a happy or relaxing vibe.. yet at the same time they can also give a “weakness” and "my P**sy hurts" vibe when used in excess. \*\*Well I should know, because I like to [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) when I first get any new pheremone.” [Does Androstenol affect men negatively?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/18) ([Does Androstenol affect men negatively?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/does-androstenol-affect-men-negatively/667/18)) Rob (September 26, 2006): “**Any guy should not wear too much laughing feel good pheremones like Androstonel or TAA ([Molecule A – Carefree Youthful Uplifting Pheromone - Pheromone Labs](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)) (IS). It’ll just end up turning you into some goofy smiling candyass. It may make you in some instances the life of the party, but really.. there is nothing sexy about a clown.**” --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/younger-mans-a314-fuzed-with-the-cool-guy-vibe-combining-mx105-with-p74/6929)._