# Your Target is a Smoker.  What Then?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [December 13, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131 "2006-12-13T02:07:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![LFC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/898d66/32.png) [@LFC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LFC)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/1 "2006-12-13T02:07:39Z")

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Hello all,

I’ve been reading in the forum that smokey environments tend to mask or “cloud” the affects of the pheremones. So what if you are a smoker yourself, or your target is a smoker? For instance, I put on a lil A314, IFM, IH, blah, blah, blah. I go on a date with someone who is a smoker, would a higher than regular dosage be recommended, or would you stick to the old cliche that less is more?

I’m a smoker myself, and I’m guessing that as long as you’re not a chain smoker, your nose will have a lil time to take in the pheremones. Especially in the outdoors or smoke-free indoor atmosphere.

Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 8:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/2 "2006-12-13T08:49:19Z")

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I’m not a smoker, but here’s what I have noticed.

- Some smokers seem to respond normally, but the heavier the smoker, and/or the longer they’ve been smokers, the less effect I get.

- Smoky environments require 2, sometimes as much as 3 times as much pheros to get the same effect.

That’s about all I can say, hope that helps.

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**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/3 "2006-12-13T09:05:25Z")

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I just posted the below in another thread.

**Re: [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) in smokey environments…**  
Pheromones effects on smoker women, is on-off, eg, they come and go, like they get that wiff, then miss the other, in the space of a minute or two.

So it takes a bit longer for them, but if drinks are involved, then it is almost normal effect, all factors considered.

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**Author:** ![Pongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Pongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pongo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/4 "2006-12-13T09:43:41Z")

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put mones on the back of your hands and light her cigs for her 🙂 uhhh yea Im not kidding by the way,…

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**Author:** ![LFC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/898d66/32.png) [@LFC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LFC)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 1:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/5 "2006-12-13T13:03:38Z")

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Good one Pongo! Thinking outside the box, I see.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/6 "2006-12-13T16:32:49Z")

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Slick, Pongo!

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**Author:** ![Pongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Pongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pongo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 8:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/7 "2006-12-13T20:57:58Z")

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The below from Catlord makes me wonder about permanent degradation of phero receptors in long term smokers - this is not hard to imagine.

> [@catlord17](#):
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> I’m not a smoker, but here’s what I have noticed.
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> - Some smokers seem to respond normally, but the heavier the smoker, and/or the longer they’ve been smokers, the less effect I get.
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> - Smoky environments require 2, sometimes as much as 3 times as much pheros to get the same effect.
> 
> That’s about all I can say, hope that helps.

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**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/8 "2006-12-13T21:31:23Z")

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> [@Pongo](#):
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> The below from Catlord makes me wonder about permanent degradation of phero receptors in long term smokers - this is not hard to imagine.

Well, cigarette smoke is flat out toxic! Nicotine is used as an insecticide! It’s not that much of a surprise when you consider emphysema is a known result of smoking for a long time.

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**Author:** ![Pongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Pongo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pongo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/9 "2006-12-13T21:41:58Z")

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I was thinking more in terms of a tar coating similar to what happens to the cilia (not sure how to spell that) in the throat of a smoker – these are small hairs that detect debris and trigger us to cough foreign objects out so we don’t get ill, anyway it seems any receptor that comes in contact with tar long term could become derelict.

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/your-target-is-a-smoker-what-then/1131/10 "2006-12-13T23:29:53Z")

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> [@Pongo](#):
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> I was thinking more in terms of a tar coating similar to what happens to the cilia (not sure how to spell that) in the throat of a smoker – these are small hairs that detect debris and trigger us to cough foreign objects out so we don’t get ill, anyway it seems any receptor that comes in contact with tar long term could become derelict.

And yet smokers who quit recover a great deal of their sense of smell and taste … and Luca Turin has said that many of the great perfumers have been smokers - which shocked me! But then one of the greatest, Jean Carles, became completely anosmic and carried on composing from memory.
