1st time using TUTH at work

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Why I went with Turn Up The Heat: Everyone has recommended i start off with low does of IS to learn phero’s. I greatly value everyone’s input and will do that starting next week. I invited a cute russian girl to watch Pats train SD in how to play a game of football this sunday at my apt. I know i’ll have to use Turn Up The Heat on her and possibly AMMO and Instant Female Magic, and i only have 4 days to learn to use that. it’s an emergency, there it nothing i can do…

What I sprayed: 2x sprays of TUTH to-go on my neck after a shower and went to work. No cover-up cologne, this stuff smells great! I wore an uncharacteristically sexy shirt with a v-neck T underneath and more than necessary buttons undone (ok 2 vs 1). No self effects at any point. I was going to use IS just in case i saw a bad reaction to the TUTH, but being absent minded i grabbed the TUTH bottle instead, dumbass… so I’m stuck with this all day, not planning to reapply.

What happened: nothing really… As an unbuffered -none spray this was supposed to make men angry and the women lust for me. didnt notice anything like that. if anything, the alpha-est males here were only nicer to me than usual. we went out to lunch with a bunch of my friends and had a great conversation, everyone listened to everyone else, if anything the males were paying more attention to me, but that could have been anything. we were talking about good things like just getting bought by a giant software company and how that’s gonna make us all rich, so the mood was already great as it is.

i share a cube with a super-alpha-wannabe hot blooded turkish male. he usually argues with me about everything, every conversation or statement gets turned into “what he has that is better”, really impossible to deal with. i try not to talk to him about anything because i dont care to hear why im wrong and his car is faster and how i should talk to people, etc. so i was expecting him to REALLY get super annoying from the -none, but no. he hasnt talked to me for weeks, but today he was FRIENDLY! he’s never friendly. he asked my advice. he never asks for advice. he respected my answer without saying anything to make himself feel superior like he always does. could be the general good mood about the business as with the others at lunch…

if anything, any reactions were completely counter-intuitive to what i’ve been reading on the forums about the effects of unbuffered -none. I’m not convinced anything worked as far as pheromones… YET… and if these reactions are from the phero, then why arent people more pissed? i will keep updating this if anything else happens today…

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That’s why the best advice is still test everything by itself until you understand how it reacts on YOU. We are all quite different. If you read Gegogi’s posts you’ll find he rarely if ever has any negatives from -none. I like Turn Up The Heat but for me it seems to cause annoying things to be more annoying (self effect). On others around me my experience is like yours. Great Post!

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Interresting report so far.And how about reactions from females?I gues if you want to have reactions as pissed off males u have to od.
2 sprays sounds normal dosage, and not extreme overdose.Androstenone in higher dosages have the ability to make some people frighten too.Recently when talking to a cousin of mine (60 y.o. or something) he was shaking and acted like I was some gangster robing him while I was asking about him and his family.This guy is elder person but enough masculine and in good condition(doen’t have parkinson or something :wink:) and we are in good relationships but the -none made his effect.BUT that time I wasn’t just having some -none on me, I was od -ing.The point I’m trying to make is that extreme reactions may occur in extreme dosages used and not likely at ralatively normal dosages.
It will be verry interresting to hear the reactions from your female coworkers though.Wish you luck, and don’t be afraid to experiment.:wink:

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i have this one really cute russian girl my age at work. if you watch the office, she’s like my pam. but she’s not here yet, she said she’ll come in at 4 and stay late… maybe i’ll spray some more for her and see what happens “late”.

other than that we have very few women. we’re a software company and it’s our plague that most women arent interested in computer science. it’s a boys club and we sometimes get away with some extremely chauvinistic comments around here.

HOWEVER, all that said about how it’s not working blah blah.. a female director (DIRECTOR!) passed me in the hall. normally she’s very serious and concentrates on her job, doesnt even say hi like most people in the hallway. she said hi, then, already 15’ behind me at that point, she felt like she had to stop and make a joke at me. she said, “hey, have you been eating lately?” referring to the fact that im skinny (6’1" and 150lbs). i said, “no, but this shirt is tighter than usual”, then she stumbled in her thoughts and produced some gibberish. now, this shirt is tighter than usual because it’s small, i normally wear only mediums. still not convinced, but that was a little wierd. if we had a pageant, she’d win Mrs. Uptight, let me put it that way…

cant wait for the russian hotness to show up at 4pm :slight_smile:

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Hello Comradmax!
Thank you for your very interesting post! Please, keep us pudated on your future researches! I’ve an idea about the behaviour of the Turkish guy. In fact, as you wrote, he’s one of those that “I’m the hottest” and “I’m the best”. So, maybe, he noticed the higher amount of NONE, and he didn’t feel you menacing, but some kind of “helpful wingman”. I mean, if you want to have a wingman to hit on some girl, you wish that he’s ok and can be reliable, right? So, I believe that, maybe before he found you a low-none kitten, now he felt you like somebody of “his own kind”. It’s just my idea, maybe I’m wrong, but I know quite well some Turks and I think that they’d think on this way.

Ok, for now it’s all. Keep us updated on your researches!!!

See ya

Franz

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I would sudgest to be ready to spray more but not to do it before u see if there is any effect on her with the 2 sprays u made.If the effect is good enough, and from what I hear about your female boss it is, do not spray any more as not to od.
Well I had many experiences whenI thought that adding more -none would make things sweeter :stuck_out_tongue: but in fact when I return from the toilet in witch I added some more ,I find that it is too much now and the girl do not even look at my eyes anymore :open_mouth:…
So spray some more only if u need and think well, cause if u can stand more -none u can increas the sexual tension, but if not, u can simply come on too strong and even frighten the girl…
Her subconstious reactions will guide you about that.Wish u luck and waiting to hear what happened.
p.p.I like russian girls too…:stuck_out_tongue: They’re so sweeeeeet…:wink:

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Comradmax-

You got a reaction to your increased 'none signature - but you were expecting the worst in extreme behavior from men: violence. Instead it seems to me you got the BEST case scenario reaction to your increased 'none signature: RESPECT.

You were coming across as a Top Dog with the extra 'none and they treated you as such. A314 does this as a warm alpha with all the buffering, but the Turn Up The Heat did it with the 'none.

Remember - this stuff does work. You just gotta figure out how it is working with you.

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The Turk: eventually i put on 2 more sprays of Turn Up The Heat (cuz i dont care). as far at the turk, he was only quieter and nicer after that, if anything. runnerxvr, im thinking you’re right. he could put a lot more value on interpersonal male hierarchy because of his upbringing/genes than, let’s say, a young european male like myself. so let’s assume for a second that the pheros worked: then i smelled like a better man to him (especially after 2x in the morning and 2x more at 4pm). so therefore he switches from thinking of me as a POS to looking up to me because in his mind he wants to learn how to be like me. i dont think he respects people who are just like him, but i noticed that he’s very eager to please anyone with a higher title than him. edit took so long to type all this up and bosshank posted his comment: im glad to see others interpret this the same way (runner and boss) edit

The Russian Hotness. sorry, right off the bat im gonna tell you i didnt get to do much testing or saw much of a reaction. like Casanova suggested, i dont spray more until i see how she reacts first. she comes in at around 4pm all flustered from doing whatever she was doing all day. at that point i have the morning 2 sprays still smelling strong. she didnt do anything out of the ordinary, no lustful looks, no jumping around. i said, “fuck it, im going for 2 more.” so i went to the car and did 2 sprays on my neck. if anything, this stuff will make me wanna have sex with myself, i like the scent :slight_smile: i was kinda scared to go back in because the scent is very strong and it would seem wierd that all of a sudden at 4pm max decides to put on some cologne? anyway, i go back and go up to her cube. we chatted, but nothing. maybe just maybe: her face was blushed, but this is boston and it’s piss-freezing weather outside and she had just come in. there is a male director, her and me talking a few mins later. she kinda told the director that she would hate to sit in a diff seat because then her boss would be able to see that she spends too much time online. i felt that whole conversation was TMI in the presence of a high level business manager. it was like 5:30 at that point and she said she’s leaving again and wont be back for an hour, so i wasnt gonna stick around that long to find out nothing, i left after she left. still not convinced, too much circumstantial evidence.

a little background on the russian. she and i are best friends are work and everyone else thinks im banging her. she’s 26, has a 9yo son, married to a russian champion (european and near east gold medals) wrestler who runs his own private gym here now, he’s 47. from all that i know about anything, she wants me anyway. because she’s married, nothing ever happened, and prolly never will. nor do i want something like that to get out and ruin a perfectly fine family. i wouldnt mind making the crap out with her in a dark closet at work tho.

i think that because of our already established flirtatious rapport she didnt not show any effects. maybe she already thinks im sexy? she doesnt behave professionally, so i dont think she’d cover up any subconscious signals like grooming her hair or bitting her lip (which she does like she needs it to breathe as it is :slight_smile:).

The Project Managers. ok, so im not getting anything new from the russian hotness. at this point it’s after the additional 2 sprays of Turn Up The Heat. i migrate over to the cubes where we keep our PM’s. 3 older than me women, 40yo pakistani, 40-50yo white american, 30-ish white american recent first time mother. im there for one reason and one reason only, to get some attention. i want to talk to them all, especially the new mom cuz she’s cute (and even more now so because i know she just made a baby, wierd, creepy?). so i ask about some total bs about indian food: “oh, you like indian food? really, i never pictured you would! oh, it’s just that i noticed you eat very healthy and smart…” blah blah blah, more of that kinda conversation with the new mom. all 3 were friendly and laughing/joking, nothing out of the ordinary, they like me anyway. no looks tho, and that’s not to say they didnt look at me, they make plenty of conversational eye contact, but no LOOKS if you know what i mean, and i think you do… so that’s that, except…

here is something i thought was maybe possibly something. in the process of that conversation im standing in the cube of the 40 paki and i see something on the floor, so i pick it up, it’s some kinda cloth sack. i give it to her and ask what it is. she giggles, “oh, i dunno, some pouch, i think it’s from my cellphone.” then she tries to throw it in the air and catch it. except she’s looking at me while doing it, totally fucks that up, the thing does a quadruple pirouette salto into her face, bounces off, she tries to catch it like a puppy going after a butterfly with her paws, knocks a bunch of crap off her desk, and now she has to go hunting for that stupid sack under her desk! wtf was that? i’ve never seen her do a trick like that before. i think it’s possible that was an indication that there were thoughts in her head at that moment other than indian food that i was talking about.

Stop and Stop. went to get some food, but mostly to walk by a bunch of women and see what happens. nothing. no looks, no turns, used the self check out and left.

Conclusion. not convinced either way. 2 possible reactions of today were the random comment from a female director and then the juggling act from the PM. both indicate possible hidden or subconscious thoughts, so that’s a point in phero’s favor. however, nothing much else noticed today unless i get super picky, but any one of those could be explained naturally: like a red face from the cold or fun conversations because everyone is in a good mood anyway.

Plan for Tomorrow. im just gonna do 4 sprays of TUTH off the bat in the morning, fuck it, let’s see what happens :smiley:

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comradmax, Turn Up The Heat is probably the wrong product to be testing with and expecting to see results from people you work with.

Of the products you have, Instant Shine or Instant Openness would be much better for use in a work environment if you are looking to see results. You could even get away with Ammo.

If you want to test out Turn Up The Heat before your excursion with the cute Russian girl, then wear it to a nightclub where there will be women that you do not know or work with. That will give you a much better idea of the power of TUTH, than trying to elicit a response from someone you work with everyday, are not already dating, and who almost certainly has already formed an opinion of you.

When I wear my pheros around people that I have known for some time, they may be a little more friendly or talkative, but I generally do not see sexual responses or hits from them.

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Like the way you structure your posts Comradmax!

… ok a safe call would be a couple of sprays of AMMO and a few of Instant Female Magic :wink: That is if its just the two of you.

…I agree Turn Up The Heat and even instant jerk (most of the time) only make the really alpha guys friendlier :smiley:

With girls its different! Lately I’m finding that high none encourages silly arguments with my LTR followed by intense sex lol

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mark-in-dallas, point taken. and here is another way to look at it: if i got unexpected results with Turn Up The Heat, then who’s to say that IShine wont surprise me either?

flaming, thanx! and even w/o pheromones, when i had a LTR gf living with me in college, we almost used to fight on purpose. then the makeup sex! we never talked about it, but we both fell into this pattern pretty naturally.

New Plan. 4 sprays of Instant Shine: 2 on neck, 1 on wrists, 1 more on neck after putting clothes on. I’m sitting at work now, let’s see what happens. shall i start a new thread for this experiment?

Trying out Instant Shine at work
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I wouldn’t say your Turn Up The Heat responses were unusual – a-none can be a tricky molecule to play with. It’s far too easy to OD until you know pretty much exactly your limit is. It builds up on your skin and can still be effective at some level the next day.

Figuring out what works for you is really trial & error; though age and other factors can be used to give a SWAG at it.

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i just got my new order. this time i got full bottles of Turn Up The Heat 1x, IShine 2x, A314. i also discovered that from my original order of to-go’s i was accidentally sent 2x TUTH, so this whole time whenever i used TUTH it was 2x :slight_smile: i recon it’s 2x because on the little to-go label it says “5mcd/spray”…