Plan on buying another thing of P83, Ammunition, and PERHAPS IS.
Any other recommendations guys?
I have a lot of success with Chikara and P83, but those are pheromones that have been suggested as mixes, not standalone. Any suggestions? I’ve heard of P74 (or was it P75?). Just want something party-esque that initiates nice kino from women.
What does P74 (or P7) do? Any other ones you’ve heard of? No budget limit (but within reason of course).
Suggestion, based upon my own uses and very experienced people I have relied upon:
30 mL:
iShine
P74, p83, both at 10 mcg per spray.
P75, 2.5 mcg per spray
IO, IH and TUTH as TOGO (or, instead of TUTH TOGO) ExperiMone 2.5 mcg per spray 30 mL Androstenone
MX413
I’ve used (just starting P74) either all of these or the molecules. I use regular AMMO for NONE, when I use NONE, but when I run out I’ll probably go just with plain NONE or TUTH. I can’t remember if TUTH is just plain NONE. It may have a few other additives. I find it easier to stick with all neroli and make my own layering with basic parts. I have more control of the the final output of the vibe I’m sending.
MX413 neroli gives you an A1 effect. I’m not familiar with Chikara personally, so I’d suggest you do your own testing with just the Androtics pheros in simple combos of just two or three to start. Follow what Ghost has suggested. Start P75 + 74 + IH perhaps, then move to add P83 and NONE when The Time Is Right.
As you don’t already have Instant Honesty I could suggest IH for creating a connection with a woman and enhancing intimacy, e.g. on dates or romantic comedy movie theatre with GF. You seem like you might already be good at this though
I personally like IS alot and like to add it as the finishing touch to 99% of my mixes.
I’m thinking of trying out P74 and/or P74 myself some time
I’m considering IG as a supplement for A314 until it’s in stock for work. But definitely not in the environment I’ll be in. I just ordered Ammunition and another to-go of Instant Shine.
Going to combine P83 + Ammo + Chikara + IO (very minute touches of each, nothing ridiculous). P83 and Chikara have already done wonders for me, but I hope to use IO to open females up to me as I can be an intimidating guy sometimes due to my appearance and Ammo to add a little more kino/sexual interest in women that has been reported to be enhanced by P83.
I like putting one spray of IO to my front neck to make myself more chatty, and it makes women abit more chatty too which is usually good
There is also Summer Ammo vs Ammo, afaik Summer is abit more buffered and has TAA (main ingredient in shine) whereas Ammo has more of a -none effect than SE ammo has
One spray IG + 2 sprays IH strikes me as quite good for taking your GF out to a romantic movie
IO and IS both seem like they should help lessen intimidation and help her open up more to you and they are quite social too. You dont want to go too beta tho
It looks good to use the other products to add a sexual element in there as well. Looks like a good mix
If you are confusing P74 and P75, then you really need to do a lot more reading - they are two radically different pheros you don’t want to get confused!
Mind you, they do go quite well together and the P75 does keep P74’s tendency to over friendlyness nicely in check.
P75 is like androstenone, and at about 2.5 mcg you can more or less sub out one for the other, but beyond that considerable sweet spot testing is required. You can probably use it with IShine, IO, IH, IG, TAC, P83, P74 and most other pheros that aren’t sexual and have buffering or softening qualities. It’s the underlying “Male Signature” of mixes. Treat it like NONE, and it will help. 10 mcg of P75 is very close to 10 of NONE – Except – it doesn’t provoke male dominance conflicts like NONE, a fact that speaks to its utility, if you read evolver’s thread. I’ve used 10 mcg each of P75 and NONE together, but you’d better watch your back and know how to buffer it. Makes IJ look like cotton candy. I’ve cleared rooms, got intense hits with over-35 women, started fights among women, men, men vs. women–and everyone except them vs. me. Knowing what I know, I don’t like to use it unless somebody tries to make a chump out of me. Then, I bring out the Kryptonite. I use it in special situations with one or two specific female targets where I want to suppress the heavy testosterone vibe in the room, with extreme caution. I treat it with respect.
On second note, I often give heavy IO and IH as a simple and cheap buffer for P75. Small amounts of socials won’t offer much, but heavy amounts will. You aim for P75 as the base male sig., then duplicate CTTM2 with high ANOL similar to Spaceland. You can then add P83 or NONE if you wish. It creates a “party” vibe with youngish women, but the IH knocks out the superficiality. The P75 knocks out the LJBF somewhat, and it keeps annoying men from being too friendly in my circle, because of the authority vibe. You can go to 5 mcg of P75 to vary the effect, with heavy buffers.
However, I will tell you why this P75 is not yet beyond experimental: we need more women to report what this does for them when their men wear it or females wear small amounts. We need to know what women say this does for them vs. NONE, because I don’t even know the formula and can’t cite any academic info. at all. NONE, we do have science. P75, we do not. I expect it’s a ketone steroid in the metabolic chain before or after NONE…a pure hunch.
It HAS the potential to build a whole line of NONE-free mixes for sale for non-advanced users, but, after all these years, we still don’t know enough.
The tests I’ve done with 75 cost me 10 times more in entertainment expenses than the actual cost of the product–along with hours and hours of observations and notes. There is no other way and no shortcut.
Here is what little females tell us about their self effects; damn, these posts are actually really good. Must Read