31 Male Leaping into Friend Zone, but want more!

Hi all, I am a 31 year old male. Single, no kids. lot’s of friends that are girls but no girlfriend. lol Well, I’m here because as stated I have a lot of friends, now the funny thing is that in talking to them they each think the other women want me but are afraid to tell me.

So I am here to see if maybe pheromone’s would " relax them to express this". I can be hard to approach if I sense BS, so I’m sure I misread a lot of their “signs”. The problem is when I think there’s an opening and I leap, they seem to retreat into their shell.

It could be some things I am doing wrong, or just bad timing. lol

So I am thinking of getting the Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, probably the Turn up the heat, since I am still single. Now I have no problems attracting women, I am just looking to “see what I am maybe missing” with some of these women, and this maybe a good outlet.

Oh, yes the desired result is long-term relationship.

Thanks for reading…Andre’

Hello Vegeta! Haha, reminds me of that “Over 9000” meme video on youtube.

Yeah that’s a strange situation there, well maybe complicated is more the word. I would take whatever they say with a grain of salt, because women don’t always take the straightest path in communication.

You are definitely spot on in looking at IH and IO for communication. You may really want IH in your situation if you feel your female friends are BSing you.

Also look into Ammo. Normally I would not feel comfortable recommending TUTH because of all the warnings about it producing too strong of a sexual signature especially while you are at the rapport or comfort building stages. However, I have a feeling in the worst case scenario, your friends may have all dumped you into “Let’s Just Be Friends,” zone. So, hopefully, using Ammo or TUTH can show them that you are a sexual creature, and hopefully salvage the situation. This is worst case scenario of course, I may be completely wrong and they actually all like you.

But yeah, IH, OH, maybe CTTM2. IShine and IFM are options too, they would be nice to just have, but I don’t think they address any of your specific problems directly. It does not sound like you have any confidence issues, for example.

Good luck :smiley:

Hi there welcome to the forum :slight_smile:

based on your description, i’d say you made the right choices on Instant Honesty and Instant Openness. those are social communication pheromones, will help you socialise and interact better. IH will make women more “open” to you, no BS there :wink:

ammo would also be a good product for you since you are single, the extra attraction ammo gives will come handy, and it smells great as a cologne, good for beginners.

tuth is a very sexual and aggressive product, so use it carefully, i would suggest you start from 1 spray first and work your way up slowly even at your age, it’s great for nightclubs and alone time.

if you have anymore questions, just ask, Good luck :slight_smile:

Hi Vegeta. Your pheromone choices are very good. Stick around on the men’s forum and we can help you tweak your doasge and find your ideal levels to wear, or “sweet spot” as it is called on the forum.

Even if you are in the friend zone with many of your female friends, you are well placed to find new women to socialise with - as these women must know other women who you are as yet unaware of, so maybe drop a few hints to them.

Hi vegeta and welcome to the forum. I see how things are with you.. therefore my best recommendation for you is the come talk to me mix 2 and Instant Honesty… you’ll have girls talking to you all day and trusting you about every single stuff in their lives as if you were their best friend. Add some spice to the conv. with some ammo and turn up the heat and your bed will be full of sex sweat XD… Instant SHine to make all people feel better around you.. that should make your life happier dude… enjoy pheromones and welcome

Hello Welcome to Pherotalk Andre :slight_smile:

Hmmm I would rethink the TUTH for now. You mention they retreat into their shells. TUTH comes on very strong and could make them retreat more. You need something that will arouse by sneaking under there radar not in your face like TUTH.

I Suggest AMMO which has the same amount of anone in it as TUTH has but its buffered by 2 other mones. It has more depth and interest. Its sexy, smells amazing on a man, mildly arousing, very attractive.

IH and IO are always great choices. As mentioned you could get CTTM which is a mx of both but it cuts down on the versatility for those times when you want one vibe over the other.

If you have questions just ask.

Your GC is on its way :smiley:

Tisha

Well, thanks to whoever changed my title! lol Ok, let me clarify, I am not in the friend zone. I have had sexual relations with most of these women, and we are still kool.

There is one in particular that has me slightly puzzled, so yes I am wanting to find out completely what the deal is. Now I know I have had, & kinda blown it to some small degree.

So I dunno. lol We’ll see. :wink: I will try the tips suggested tho. The TUTH was not intended for this target. lol…Dre’

SteveO probably changed your title. He is the forum administrator and manager of the store. Most likely to create more traffic for your post and they hate when the ticker at the top says the same thing so they spice it up a bit . They only do it up here in the intro section though. We work hard to keep this forum active :smiley:

Ahh ok, Just keep in mind that TUTH works best on those who have some comfort level with you already. Its not for all environments. Best used in clubs, bars, parties or in one on one situations. Basically anywhere people are more open to a heavy sexual vibe.

Have fun

Tisha

Androsterone gives a “good prospect for a LTR” signal.

Two Androsterone based commercial products are A314 and Instant Gentleman. A314 can put people off a bit though, and it sounds as if you allready have some of that going.

Try Instant Gentleman.

If you want some insight into this recomendtion look up my old post on tournament and pair-bonding strategies.

I’d stay away from ammo, Turn Up The Heat, and other Androstenone products for now. It sounds as if you don’t have a problem getting laid. The issue is not being seen as LTR material. Androstenone could just make that problem worse. There will be plenty of time to have fun with Androstenone once a relationship is established.

Ok, thanks to Tish I received my $15 GC and immediately used it. Okay here’s 1st update. My target and I have started more open communitcating, so I am not in the friend zone, but I need to be obviously more aggressive, but let her kinda determine the way it happens.

That said, I did make my 1st order which was: Turn Up The Heat x1, then togo’s of Instant shine, instant honesty,instant female magic, & Ammo. Now I was told by the target that I have turned her on many times, but I either didn’t try, or try hard enough.

Soooo, I am looking for a good combination to maybe loosen the mood when she comes over this week. My order will be here tomorrow. Now I had already gotten her 2 playboystore outfits, so we’re " there, but not allthe way there". lol

She was already talking about when she comes over if she can " hop on my bed". lol So I’m knowing she’s ready, but I’d rather her make the 1st move to save me messing things up.

Any suggestions on dosage/combinations to achieve this?..Dre’