A Big Thank You From A "Newb"

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Hi everyone,

First, let me say thanks to all the posters on this forum. After a breif convo with my friend’s uncle (a certified player of 56 years) and his endorsement of pheramones, I spent about 5 hours today reading up on everything. Much appreciated, the information and stories inspired me to make my first purchase ever.

I ordered:
Ammunition
Turn Up The Heat
Instant Shine
Alpha A314
Instant Honesty

A bit expensive and I probably went overboard but whatever. Looking forward to receiving my order soon :smiley:

A bit about me: I live in West LA in a trendy neighborhood. I am 27 yrs old, 6’3", 185 lbs, white, blue eyes, short brown hair, thin & fit, good dresser and would consider myself an 8 or 9 out of 10 (not being cocky, just my humble opinion). My strengths are definitely deepening a conversation once I’m into it.
Weaknesses are initiating convos.

I am pretty good with girls once I break the ice but initating that first contact, especially if it’s cold (i.e. no indicator of interest) is hard for me. I feel shy to do it and generally will not approach a girl unless there is some indicator that she is interested. Seems like I’m always praying for eye contact and a smile from across the room. Hence why I am here and why I bought the pheramones.

I typically prefer day game, coffee shops, malls, grocery store, etc. However, this is tough as you need a lot of confidence to approach in many of these situations, something I don’t always have. If anyone has got a good opener for a girl on the sidewalk dressed to the nines, with her big shades on and earphones in, I would LOVE to hear it!

Less interested in bars/clubs because I don’t drink and find it hard to actually carry on a convo. However, I always find myself there because my friends like to go.

Read all the PUA stuff years ago, took what worked for me and left the rest behind. Not interested in changing who I am, justing bringing out the best in me.

I prefer the girls that look unapproachable, the ones that are clearly the best looking and know it. Age is less important, tho 18 to 30 is my target. Why these girls? Quite honestly, because I am very picky and if a girl isn’t super hot then I am just not interested or excited by her. Problem is when I do see a girl I like I am so enamored by her I tend to freeze up and just stare at her beauty. It takes a lot of internal butt kicking to make the move lol.

Any advice on mixes for me and my new products? Guess I am really looking for 2-3 mixes: one for day game (cold opens) or getting girls to approach me (how great would that be!) or the bar/club scene. (If I need to order something else I will.)

BTW any one come up with a good mix to use on strippers? lol
Seriously tho, what better place to test 'mones than a strip club? Girls coming up to you, getting close and having plenty of chances to take your scent in! Would seem like taking candy from a baby, which as we all know is not as easy as it looks, right Mr. Burns? (Simpsons fans anyone?)

Again, a HUGE thank you to all the veteran posters on this site! I look forward to making contributions as I begin to conduct my research :wink:

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You seem to have the same problem with me. When I’m into a topic, I really talk quite alot, and has lots of things to talk. But I really dont know how to start a good conversation. Dont know what to ask, what to say, what to start a story when we are new. And it becomes very boring as I have nothing to say more except general and unattractive topics, sometimes I’m speechless. And that’s sad when I’m quite an enjoyable person.

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The best advice for using Pheromones at a bar for you would be to first find your “sweet spot”. Use one product until you get a feel for what it is doing to others. Pheromones are not an end all be all love potion that will make all women your slave. Pheromones are a social lubricant. Be yourself and enjoy your time at the club. Think of pheromones as a new suit. Pheromones enhance your status…like a new suit.

Sorry to say but strippers are just about immune to the effects of pheromones…lol. Some have surmised that they are constantly exposed to testosterone and have developed an immunity of sorts to pheromones. Many have had the same idea you’ve had. Type stripper in the search bar and enjoy the reading.

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Thanks for the comments guys!

@ oriental_mistery:
One thing I found is reading psychology articles or anything about human behavior or how the mind works regularly is a great way find material to engage a woman with; i.e. “you know, I just read something that said… Do you find that to be true?” Best of luck!

@ paradox1:
Thanks for the advice. I’ll give each one a shot individually at low doses, increase until reaction is found and then once I’ve got a bit of research, start to mix and match. I’ll keep this thread posted with anything worth sharing. As you said paradox, social lubricant. I’m always looking for more of an edge and why not add this to my tool belt :slight_smile: Will check out the stripper posts. Thanks!

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Hey GQ1 and welcome to the board!

I have sort of a question about strippers and pheromones. Without considering the possibility of their immunity to pheros (maybe they are immune, who knows?), how would you even tell if it was working on them? Don’t they make their money by convincing guys that they are into them? How would you know you were getting hits as opposed to the normal way they interact with customers?

I don’t mean for any of this to sound rude, I’m just curious.

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Good question. What you are looking for when testing/using pheromones is a reaction above and beyond the normal. The further beyond the normal the better.

In the case of strippers their normal is to get as much money as possible from the customer. Beyond the normal for a stripper would be to give something for nothing. Remember it’s their job to seduce men. Examples of unusual stripper behavior would be free lap dances, spending time with you without asking for money, giving her personal phone number to you…ect.

Like I said before many have tried pheromones in strip clubs with little results. Some of the socials have garnered more attention and conversation from strippers but beyond that…

I could go on & on about the mindset of strippers and why pheromones don’t really work on them. IMHO the bottom line is regular over exposure to high levels of human Testesterone has made them immune.

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Thanks, Paradox :slight_smile: That’s really interesting.

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Agree with Paradox. It is far too hard to tell if she is just working you or is really interested.

I would only classify a hit as her offering something for free; asking for your number (then calling it in front of you to exchange, NO FAKE #s here); or a meet up outside of the venue; (if she wants you to come back and see her at work, you are just a $$$.)

Anytime money is involved it is not a real hit.

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Welcome GQ1,

Yes you did totally dive in and you forgot the most imp product which would help you in initiating convo which is the IO, that is actually our ice breaker.

Good times, luckily you did get Ammunition that gives of a strong, masculine vibe and lets the ladies know before hand you are interested and you are likely to get a confidence boast from wearing it to give you that extra push to approach.

The men will continue to assist and guide you so let us know as soon as your products what your experiences has been.

Your gc was issued!