A Ginger & Her Mones

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Women's Journals
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OMG … There Is actually a none androtics product that I like!

I am very behind in getting my post from my phone onto here :frowning:. I have been logging several test on P75 which is under embargo right now. Pagodeiro was awesome and sold me some EST from lovescent through the trading post and even more awesome to include some MEO-EST and Primal Instinct. (Thank You again Pagodeiro!) I was also scent a few samples from Love Scent when I returned the Cleo Beta, I have to admit I’m rather biased towards Androtics but Love Scent does have excellent customer service. They mailed me sample packs of Perception, Alter Ego, The Edge and one other that I unfourtunatly dont remember. I tested each of these solo using half a pack per test applied approximatly 6 hours apart, I didn’t notice any results from any of these.
I wanted to test those out before throughly testing the mones from Pagodeiro, because they were in little packets and the first one was dried out. ( I currently don’t have the best system for storing mones) I haven’t tested the MEO-EST or Primal Instinct throughly yet. However I absolutly love the EST!! I way over complicated figuring out how much to use lol :roll_eyes: (this is common for me!) and did a medical dose conversion…:roll_eyes:… and made a little body spray. Pagodeiro did post on the question I answered :o and cleared up how many drops to use :smiley: but thankfully the body spray ended up working out well and is very convenient to have with for touch ups so I didn’t waste any precious mones!!:smiley:

I combined .53 ml of the EST in 58 ml of Japanese Cherry Blossom
I use between 3-4 sprays of this it wears off fairly quickly I think this is due to the J.C.B.

I used this on 3 different days.

Prior to this I had been testing P75 so I’m going to limit my detail prior. Hubs and I where in more or less the same state as my prior post. However my anxiety was and has been MUCH lower so I have been in a pretty chill calm state and he had been talking to me a little more. Everyday that I used the EST after being around him for about an hour he would start coming to talk to me about random things, by bed time he would start minor play full flirting it didn’t lead to anything sexual, actually each time it lead to him asking me to rub his head ( he gets horrible headaches) this is a awesome awesome effect ( Thanks EST). I am still trying to maintain a mindset of thinking about his reactions as research rather than getting my hopes up, maybe this is the wrong approach,I don’t know… it feels like everyone around me thinks I should give up completely and run for the hills, but I won’t. Anyways the self effects of this est bodyspray are mild but nice. It seems to put me in a more subdued chill/ calm state that one of my new androtics favorites does in full force. It is quite nice and having it in J.C.B. provides an added bonus of body spray for when I am at work. I have noticed that this seems to make customers and coworkes very touchy when I am interacting with them, ranndomly touching my hair, arm or back … I haven’t noticed any full on hits from strangers when wearing this, however I will say that I haven’t been invsible or a doormat with it on so yay!!!:smiley:

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MX135 and my diva dog

So my princess has a favorite mone.:roll_eyes: yes really… while I am.not a huge fan of the chocotini smell she happens to love it so much so that she tried to eat it. Like I posted earlier I would guess she was wearing around 6 sprays, and thanks to being covered in fur they stayed on for about a week until I got a chance to bathe her. During this week she was a total diva .lol. I mean full on basking in her own glory walking up to everyone and looking at them.Like aren’t you going to tell me how beautiful I am?. Don’t get me wrong she had always been a diva but this was a new extreme for her . Honestly it was side spliting laughter funny more then a few times. :smiley:

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I was just out shopping with my chickie cherub(my daughter) and saw some Body Shop Body Cream in Japanese Cherry Blossom, and I was like , ‘Hmmm, why does that sound familiar?’…then I remembered your journal. :slight_smile:

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Lol! Which mone was it?

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MX135 I almost ordered another bottle in the chocotini just in case I needed comic relief..

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I want to act like a 2year-old and scream and cry and throw stuff

As much as I love him I feel myself starting to hate him, not because I want to more as a defense mechanism. We have a few good days where he wants me wants to be near me holds me and then it turns back into him acting like he can’t stand me. I try to make myself look at the good days as mone research so that the crash doesn’t hurt as much but I can’t really pull that off.
On a lighter relevant I have copied another one of Miss Dragons combos and been using it at work. The Instant Shine IO IH combination she used for her interview but I added P75 for the selfies because I still don’t get many from the I shine and honestly I need them right now. There seem to be more women then men that come into the new bar so I wanted to steer clear of any of the sexual mones because I don’t want them to think of me as competition. this little combination seems to be working pretty well and I haven’t had any negative hits from the ladies . THANKS MISS DRAGON! I’m thinking of trying it again tonight but adding P130 in addition to the p75.

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Forearms 1 spray io - taa p130 p75
Same to chest/cleavage same to hair
@1900
0250
MX46/ 1 spray neck 1 spray outside of wrist 1 spray top of head 1 spray back of neck
TAA 1 spray neck 1spray forearms 1 spray hair
P75& P130 1 spray to my face 1 spray cleavage
IO & IH 1spray to hair 1 to neck 1 to arms
I think I have a mone high :smiley:

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P130 is usually a great addition to things, it really ups the mellow! I like it with p96.

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As much as I love him I feel myself starting to hate him, not because I want to more as a defense mechanism. We have a few good days where he wants me wants to be near me holds me and then it turns back into him acting like he can’t stand me. I try to make myself look at the good days as mone research so that the crash doesn’t hurt as much but I can’t really pull that off.

I am sorry you have to go through this with your hubs. I know it is a hard place to be with someone so changeable. I was with my ex-bf for 6 years and didn’t know at first that he was bi-polar(he didn’t know, either). He was a roller coaster ride through hell. I know this isn’t your situation, but I do empathize with you. I wish I could say something to help, or make it easier for you. You sound pretty awesome, and everyone deserves to be happy. I hope you will be able to fix things, or do whatever you have to, to make it better for yourself.

P130 is awesome! I love its anxiety relieving abilities! It works great in mixes, so hope it helps yours

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Mones to the rescue!!

So I really like the new bar I’m working at ( well as much as I would like any bar) but they hired a bunch of new people at the same time and we’re pretty much competing for “permenate” slots. I’m not really worried about excelling at the actual work aspect, I’m not perfect, however I do work really hard and am reliable so… It’s the social part I’m worried about, it seems like the combination of me being shy until I’m comfortable and being the one who is focused on getting things done rather than talking to coworkers constantly tends to leave me on the outside rather than in the group. I really don’t want that here. Miss Dragon posted an awesome combo of socials that got me inspired to experiment a little. I tried her original combo and it was awesome, but last night I needed a little more in the selfie department.
around 1900 I started playing mad scientist lol
on my forarms I sprayed 1 spray each of: IO x2 & TAA 5mcg
I sprayed what I had left of the P75 5mcg & 1 spray P130 12.5mcg to my chin/ upper neck
To my chest 1 Spray IO x2, 1 spray TAA 5mcg
to my hair 1 Spray IO x2, ! sprayy TAA 5mcg and 1 spray IH
This combo had me in great mood and I was actually talkative! This was the first time I had meet the girl I was working with and with in 40 min we were talking like old friends (turns out we have similar relationship issues) she also kept giving me insider info on the place and how it runs. Customers were VERY nice and laid back. Two really interesting things happened. First one of MR.N’s supervisors came in with a friend and while I’ve talked to him before this time he was going into detail anbout his life and kept saying things like “I won’t keep you” in way that implied that he wanted to stay and talk to me. Secound while we’re closing this guy comes strolling in from a club on the same street and practically refuses to leave, while the door guy is walking me to my car (whew) this same guy keeps trying to come up and talk to me he just wouldn’t go away :open_mouth:

Before heading to bed I decided to see what effects mones might have while Mr.N was asleep ( bypass the concious and go straight sub concious was my thought) and I liked the combo from earlier so I applied it again except this time I added 4 sprays of anembargoed MX and a secound spray of IH. I think I had a mone high, but I am not complaining it was rather lovely. Mr.N was sound asleep he didn’t wake up once the from the time I got home to the time I fell asleep ( I wasn’t planing on him waking up for the mones but he usually does just long enough to make sure I’m the one in the house). I fell asleep amazingly fast and while I had a weird dream it wasn’t bad just weird and I slept very peacefully YAY, so I don’t have any changes in his sleeping behavior to report. When we woke up he immediatly told me he was heading out to study, and has been gone sence then. His behavior was still cold, no hug no Luv u … however he did bring his office chair over to my desk for me to use which isn’t something he would normally think to do. I may try this subconcious mone bombing again. I’m a little torn on it though part of me feels like it may be unethical, the other part reasons that our targets usually don’t know we’re using mones and I’m using mones that I would call socials or happy spray… IDK what do you guys think?

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Cops and then Mr.N

I didnt want to lump this into my previous entry.. Im doing alot of school work today but had to run out and wanted to test one of Androtic’s new cops MX . While waiting for my glasses I forgot that I had sprayed them and sat two seats away from a teenage boy (I’m at least 10 years older then this kid) and his mom, yeah… that got a little ackward. …
Also if you spray this MX then go through a check out line with a 20 something female working and buy some chocolate you may get the “I know how you feel I hate cravings” look … I took all my selfcontrol not to laugh when she asked if I wanted one of the little to go packs of advil that they sell ( yes really)

So Mr.N finally comes home and of course I can’t just leave him alone (if only there was a."leave it alone mone … oh wait thats why P75 and now P130 are almost daily wear for me :cool:) and now we’re back to him talking about moving into the office and “just finish your school”

So I did the only reasonable thing :frowning: and took a bath in mones :cool: ( I know I know)
Sprayed directly to my face 1 spray each P75 12.5mcg P130 12.5mcg
To my wrist/forearms 1 drop est 1 spray each P75, P130 , IO x2, IH, P83 10mcg , P74 10mcg, P96 10mcg
To my neck/chest 2 drops EST 2 sprays each IO, IH, P83, P74 &P96
To my hair 2 sprays each IO, IH, P83, P74 &P96

I have a rather nice little mone high right now and I don’t think I’ll start crying again. :smiley: now I just have to focus on my homework oh and hope that he actually decides to sleep in our bed tonight.. I really hope everyone elses day is going much much better.

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Omg! You really baptized in the IO! No wonder everyone was so talkative with you! I’ve never gone higher than 4 sprays of regular IO! I’ll probably go with 2x next time around, tho.

There are quite a few options for endearing yourself to coworkers. I’m like you, I can err on the side of being “too business” and seeming unfriendly. The socials are definitely superstars, especially IO. You might also like to try MX135 (or 235 or 335), and maybe some p96. Happy, connecting, and capable are the key attributes to shoot for, especially in a service industry.

Sorry to hear about everything with your hubby. Mones can do a lot, but they can’t change somebody’s character. Have you tried p96? High doses of that (40-60 mcg) might give you a few more pleasant moments with him.

I’ve tried a little bit of dream/subconscious testing on myself with mones, and didn’t really see much in the way of results. I’ve had much better results with essential oils during sleep. I kind of wonder if the pheromone sensory pathway is dulled during sleep, much like the rest of our sensory input. If you were to try this again, I’d suggest you go with a strong dose of something you already know he responds really well to, and has effects that last long enough to stick around during his entire sleep.

I’m interested in the ethical implications of pheromones from the perspective of people who use them. I don’t think non-users really have enough of an understanding of how they really work and what their limitations are in order to have an informed ethical perspective.

In general, I’m of the opinion that they are another nonverbal tool that we use in order to communicate about ourselves with others. Similar to dressing in a particular way, wearing makeup, using body language, etc., they can give others a perspective of us that we choose. The difference is that synthetic mones do more than just communicate; they alter brain chemistry. Some examples are the anti-anxiety effects of p130, or the male depression effects of A1. We don’t really know what the long-term effects are to neuro receptors, but it is generally believed to be short-lived and relatively harmless. That’s especially so compared with other things that affect the brain, such as pharmaceuticals. Nevertheless, we are causing changes to another person’s brain without their consent.

Personally, I try to follow the “do no harm” guideline. If my mones were affecting someone in a negative way, I would stop. That’s one reason I’m not a huge fan of IS. It’s one thing if I’m willing to subject myself to the crash, but it doesn’t seem very ethical for me to expose someone else to it without their consent. I have a friend who is prone to migraines, and I would absolutely hate to accidentally trigger one in him with an IS crash. And regarding A1, if I were to use it for self effects, I would be careful to remove all trace of it before coming into contact with any males.

Any thoughts?

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Thanks Miss Dragon! I did baptize in the IO unfortunately with IO Shine for selfies I need a super high dose. I have been leaning towards using P75 and P130 in place of either IO or shine because of that. Yes I have P96 10mcg and love it but I think next time Ill order a higher mcg. I also think Im going to order cttm and sunshine I haven’t read a whole lot on them but what I have seems like they may be good for a work/ clinical involvement, and hopefully selfies will manifest at a lower dose. As far as changing his character I know thats really not possible unless he wanted to but the mones do usually help day to day interaction some by effecting him some because of the selfies. Right now that’s all I can ask for :smiley: Your view point on the ethics is awesome and I have to agree people who don’t use mones wouldn’t understand it enough. Do no harm is my guide line also its why as much as I like them I’ve stopped using MX135 and MX397 around Mr. N seems to become agitated when I wear them not at me just in general (or when diva dog wears it ) my personal theory is that those two mx are very center of attention and with him having narcissistic traits it doesn’t jive well. My mixed feelings about using a mone bomb while sleeping I think stems from the fact that while awake if the target feels a mone induced urge to bond but really doesn’t want to free will is going to win but if the mones bomb the subconscious theoretically there would be less resistance… either way I’ve kept it to mones he’s found relaxing. It’s definitely an interesting discussion point and thank you so much for your feed back.

Last nights mone bomb was rather wonderful for everyone one I think. Talk about chill and calm by bed time he was speaking to me again and I noticed once in the night I noticed he had scooted over to my side. I didn’t notice any difference when he got up this morning but he did seem to sleep well. I slept amazingly and woke up with out feeling groggy (not a morning person) also studying was much easier our current chapters are a repeat for me from a similar class and thus my mind tends to wonder. The effects on the dogs makes me want to buy a diffuser and bomb my apartment with this combination! Diva dog is just under 2yo so shes still very hyper, not last night thought she laid still next to me the whole time I was doing homework infact as long as both dog where able to have contact with me or each other they were content to be still and cuddle. They are very well behaved normally and mind their manners .but last night they were exceptionally well behaved !

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I see this a lot in people just getting started. “Phero guilt” ? It goes away in time. Look at it this way, why do you wear make up or perfume? To look your best and put your best foot forward, yes? That is all you are doing with mones. Why do you wear a pretty dress? Put your hair up? Because it makes you feel pretty, and feel good. Mones can make you feel good and put you in the right frame of mind to accomplish your objectives, whatever they may be–Excel at your job, make new friends, get closer to a loved one, get attention, get laid, whatever. As you get better at knowing what each individual phero feels like to you and those around you, you can “set the stage” so to speak, for success.

They are not magic, although sometimes it may seem so. You still have to play your part. You will have those “magic moments” and they are great when they happen, but the subtle and steady phero “signature” over the long run will help you make your own magic.

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Thanks Celtic Prince !

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not mones related

So he slept in the office last night some how I had myself convinced that it wouldn’t happen. I feel like I can’t function , I Can’t sleep its like one giant anxiety attack. So how do I heal? How do I convince myself that being 28 with two failed marriages and redoing school doesn’t equal failure? I hate feeling so helpless.

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I’m so sorry, honey.

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Hey, we haven’t heard from you in a while! How are you?