Skeptical Pheroboyfz virgin tryout at mones!

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Pardon my poor english, decided to log down my experiences as it goes by hopefully. A little introduction again, I am living in sunny singapore, humid all year round. After some doubts and clarifications I went ahead and bought my orders:

IH
ISx2 strengeh
Ammo
IG - got it since i read it words really well with asian girls
P125 - After prowling around still did not really get what it does, going solo does it has any effect on others ? (will try out after trying out the rest of my orders)

The delivery was really fast and I am so happy with the speed of the delivery ordered on a tue and got it on fri. Open up everything looks good, only that there is smell coming out of my ammo bottle its the smell of the cologne I am not sure if there is a leak in ammo as the rest of the bottles have no smell coming out from them. And i dunno if my long sleeve would cover up the effect of my mones on my wrist

There is my friend’s wedding tmr for me to try out all my new products, arrive so just in time for my test, decided to go all out first before i try out the individual products another time as big social events like this dun come by that often. There will be a lot of common friends that will be there and familiar faces.

Gonna go ahead with IG one on each side of my neck, IH 1 spray each to each wrist (dunno if i should try it out will decide tmr, if so will be on my wrist to reduce self effect. I am a very blunt person so i dun wana blurt out wrong stuff.), IS 1 spray maybe to my hair or front of my neck for self effect as well, ammo to the chest under the shirt to reduce diffusion (worry that i will look to sexual in asian context as i am still 25)

Will report back on my findings when i have the time on the results

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Hi Pheroboyfz,

Glad to hear you received your order so quickly.

Being skeptical is ok. It’s important to remember that pheromones are no magic potions, you have to play your part for them to work to their full potential.

I’ll look forward to your reports.

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Wow that was some quick response, i dunno if my long sleeve would cover up the effect of my mones on my wrist ? I know mones would not do magic as most of the people there would be ppl i know so shall see the effects on them

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Consider wearing mones on the back of your hands if you are to wear long sleeve. You’ll achieve much better and widespread diffusion. Just don’t hold your hands near your face if you apply IH there :slight_smile:. Or you’re in for self-effects.

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Will the effect time be shorten due to that ? Yeah i would not want to get hit my IH haha !

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The more diffusion you get, the quicker and stronger the effect will be. If mones are under your sleeve, some will eventually diffuse through it, but it will be longer and probably less effective. If they are on your hand, they’ll diffuse in a more direct and efficient way.

Yes the IHselfie can be quite a b*tch :slight_smile:. Lol.

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Will not putting the mones on the pluse point shorten the effect time ?

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I never had trouble with that. If there is something, diffusion will be slower and effects will last longer. I suggest you try and see. If you have visible veins on your hands you can target those with your spray. They make nice secondary pulse points.

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Thanks Conjurator, you are great help ! will test out tmr and report the results

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5 - 12 - 2015

Is x 2 strength - body warming up effect
Ih - took a whiff but nth much so far
Ig - applied nth happen as of yet
Ammo - chest, smell nice
Self - after application don’t feel much different
Overall - nice mixed smell but feel nth much as of yet no ioi nor hits. Meeting a girl friends of mine will try it out

Bus stop waiting for bus
The not bad look girl around 16 - 18 was sitting beside on the seat waiting for the bus, I purposely went close to have her get a whiff of the mix. I duno how close will I need to be for people to pic up up the mones, any help?

The girl stood up after at while to walk and move infront of me just right in front thou no eye contact could this be mones at work? Or is it ioi?? Still unsure.

Got up the crowded bus with lots of people nth much out of the usual.
Alighted the bus saw my friend nth much normal convo going, can’t really so much as she met her colleagues and started talking don’t really feel like talk so I just let them be.

Reached the venue say hi to the common faces. Nth much other that the usual, another question when I spray on IH on each back of my hands I rub both back of my hands to spread it a little would this affect it??

I guess the fiends I knew for years mostly 5 or more years is this why the mones does not make a difference?
Wedding lunch went on as usual nth out of the blue but the girl that I came with when she walk past me she became quite touchy touched my back and arms so on. Don’t know if is mones at work? As she is usually not the touchy kind towards me.

While taking photo that time one of the lady friend which is older than me by a fair bit just hooked my arm for a moment which is not usually how she will behave with me. There is also this other girl around 18-20 that had not seen her for a long time, she shook my hand so say high I get the feeling it a super long hand shake and somehow she refuses to let go till I losses up first.

Summing it up

IS x2 strength- only get a body heating up sensation when appy to my front neck with a bit dipped on my upper lips for self effect but did not feel the happy feeling of joy or slight light headed feeling.

IH- applied on my back of hand I did took a whiff of it but I did not see anyself effect and on other I guess it’s all my close friends so there are not much so call thing to open up to.

Ammo - to the chest to slow down diffusion but no body came close so effect can’t be judge as of yet.

IG- 1 on each side neck and used my index finger to spread it each side a little didn’t also get much or notice much as the wedding lunch goes on will test it again.

Sums of all nth much as of yes I do not know if I am using the mones correctly or there are too much product at once or I used too little of it or my application points, or maybe the mone faded in the sun. Thou I did feel a bit of a status as how we guys greed each other will be to to touch the nips or flick it ( in a none sexual way of cos but today seems to be all cool and stuff I did not get touched or flicked. As I am typical considered the alpha of the group most of the time so maybe that might be why the nth much changed. Also could not really tell how long the mones effect last as there are not much clear results yet. As I am in a humid country and would like to test how long the mones could last here outdoors on a sunny day. But the wedding is in indoors.

That’s all for today any help or advice given would be strongly appreciated :slight_smile:!

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Nice journal so far. So I find 6 feet to be about the norm as far as the mone cloud effecting people. Anything within 6 feet or so. Sometimes I do have to keep my targets within this range for 5 to 10 minutes sometimes to see the effects.

I find when you smear the pheromone I get really good effects also. A lot of times I will spray on my left wrist and smear to my right or back of neck. I like this technique as I find it pretty effective. I do this with more the social mones like IH or IS. The sexuals I like to spray and keep right where I put them because I am very specific on how they work.

If you are targeting younger girls I would try a simple combo of IG and maybe 1 spray Ammo. Younger women are very sensitive to mones compared to say women that are in their 50’s so a little goes a long way.

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How is a strong indicator of when mones work ? or lost its effect ?

Does normal body soap help to rid the body of mones ?

Would you consider from 18 to 25 age range as young girls ?

Do we really have to wait for the mones to dry to layer up ?

sorry for the bombard of questions, I ask so i can get a better grasp of using it =)!

Gonna try again tmr as i have another social event and report back, maybe 1 spray IS x2 strength to my wrist, the other wrist IH (is this really needed since u say IG and Ammo will be enough? targeting asian girls), IG to the front this time round and ammo at the back of the neck ?

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On no worries about the questions that is what we are all here for to help each other out.

  1. I look at body language and lately I look at facial expressions like a smile or eye contact. A hair flip or sometimes I find them sticking there chest out more and a lot of other users look for eye dilation. You really have to watch body language. I have taught myself to look at facial expressions and this is my preferred method. I am sure other users have there technique and hopefully they will come in and tell you what they use.

  2. Most pheromones I find don’t have much of a problem. Mainly TUTH or Ammo or anything with Androstenone you will want to scrub out. Also I find the Ammo/FF21 and Himalayn FF/20 scent very hard to get out also. I bought some tea tree oil soap for this at the local health food store and was like $3 and works wonders for this.

  3. Most of us would consider under 30 young. Around 30 is women transition on liking a stronger signature. So a woman say 35 I can use 4 sprays TUTH(I am 36) and if I am around a woman 25 I can only use 1 or 2 sprays at most.

  4. Now I have always waited a few minutes for the 1st layer to dry before the second. I have never tried to spray one on then another right over it so I am not sure on this one.

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Nice journal, nice attitude. Great work. I’m sure you’ll ask Dee A. to remove the word skeptical from your journal’s title real soon, dunno, I have that feeling :smiley:.

Please read this link, it is the masters list of IOI (i.e. indicators of interest), this will help answer your question “how do I know if pheros work”: How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"

Personally, when I want to layer, I wait until total drydown of the first layer, this can range from 2 to 4 minutes in most cases. Products are somewhat volatile. It can take a bit longer in very humid summer months. Layering is good, but I’ve had my most crazy hits with separate points of application so far.

Your mix suggestion sounds reasonable, but I won’t stress enough the importance of testing each product solo and find your sweet spot for each :slight_smile:. IS and IH is a killer flirting combination in most cases when used with a mild sexual (like Ammo) or overt sexual (like TUTH). IG will give you the edge with asian ladies. They are simply aroused by it… the manly vibe, I guess, gets to them.

Normal body soap does the trick, but if you use androstenone-containing products (like TUTH, Ammo…) don’t be afraid to scrub with a washcloth also, this molecule tends to cling a lot to skin, and once fragrance is gone, stink can result in some cases. That’s why one never applies TUTH or such to the hair. It’s nearly impossible to remove from there (lol). You can heed to Justintime’s suggestion on the tea-tree bodyscrub, he has quite the expertise on natural personal care products. I just ordered a product free of those darn xeno-oestrogens (like the cocoamides or laureth sulfate things that are everywhere on the shelves…) that he recommended and I can’t wait to try it.

Bring all your questions on, there are no stupid questions here, we are happy to help. And if we don’t know the answer, we sure have a few Yodas around who will :smiley:.

18-25 are young girls (or women) in my book, but they’re so delicious :slight_smile:.

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I am just looking for a chance to test it on a 1 on 1 out with a girl and see how its goes.

I am thinking of getting a moiusturizer to make it last was wondering what ingredients I should avoid when getting ingredients that would kill the mones ? So far I only know that anti bacteria products is a no go.

And how is the application moisture first or mones first ? and how far do u guys spray ur mones from ?

Well I have read the IOI by Dee but it seems to be more catered towards western countries or places where people are more open, I was wondering if someone from the asia side could come up with one as well ? =) as conservative country people acts differently as IOI, as for me I will feel too weird to look at the eyes of the girl for long to check it out.

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Regarding international IOI’s, I’d say Mobocaster would be a man to ask.

Soni can probably give you an eastern opinion, he’s from India.

Justintime can probably recommend you a good moisturizer, as I said he knows quite a bit about natural body products.

Take care.

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6-12-15
Now I am trying with a lesser dosage of mones

Ammo - half a spray at each side of the neck
IG - 1 spray to the front neck Adam apple
IS - left wrist then dip on my right
IH- waited for IS to dry then layer it on top of right wrist dipped to the left

Went for the social meet up to talk about a up coming camp didn’t notice much out of the usual as I am too focus on the meeting agenda. When traveling there feel quite happy mood, everyone there is also quite jolly. Did not get any hits or close to hits today. Just one of my close girl friend seemed to be more playful then usual and used the toy light saber from the props and kept prodding me with it . Thou I did find this guy friend of my which is usually lazy and stuff quite willing to do stuff for me today it was a surprise. I wounder IG would also affect other guys giving me a more “status” effect.

Went out for movie in the evening friends seem to be as chatty as usual there are less quiet moments compare to usual.

That is about all still could not have the right conditions to test out the effect fully !

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A girl from a more reserved culture that’s more playful than usual and that’s playfully poking you with a stick is already a good sign, and those are probably IOIs :slight_smile:. The friend who was helping you all of a sudden looks like a respect hit to me. Over time, you’ll see more and more of these kind of effects and truly realize the mones are working for you. People will also get more familiar with your mones signature and open up even more.

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But I know the friends for almost 10 years so I am not really sure that is a strong IOI need to do more experiments haha! Thou I put on mones they did not seem to feel distance or need "mones adjusting period "

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Oh, all friends of ten years. Got to start somewhere, lol. Of course, keep experimenting.