Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!

I have not had any previous ‘exposure’ (pun intended!!!) to pheromones prior to the last few days, last days of Sept, starting out October and have been glued to this forum when I have had a chance! I want to document my usage on this thread. I have been pondering pheromones and my exposure to them in the past.

I have thought of instances when I have been influenced by men and women and find some of them were likely mones supported.
As an example, a couple of months ago I met a young man in the same class I was taking at a local college. We had somethings in common and worked together, in class, on some projects during that day that I met him. Now, I just felt that I should help him out (turned out he was the same age as my youngest brother, 21) when I found out he had to drive a hour to get to the college. I’m just a 5 minute drive so I offered him our guest bedroom to stay for the duration of the class. I had a strong, “you can trust this guy, he’s dependable” vibe coming from him. My wife and I enjoyed his company and by the end of the visit, he will be visiting some friends I have living abroad. We (the wife and I) felt very confortable in his presence and enjoyed talking with him. This is not something I would normally do… Natural Pheromone induced? Possibly… but I digress…

The amount of information is insane and experiences provided as well! :open_mouth:

I’m starting out this journal for several reasons:

  1. Keep a track and gauge my sweet spot when using mones by themselves and eventually, mixed.

  2. Provide another point of reference for the incredulous and skeptics, as I have never used these products before and am trying them out to check on their efficacy.

  3. Check on any allergic reaction to the mones or mixes as I have had olfactory reactions in the past to odors.

  4. Help out any newbies with reactions and congruence of the mones.

I am shooting to post a couple of times a week on the activities and hits of the mones. I’m starting out with IS (togo, 1X strength).

Tomorrow is the big day for me, as I will get my IS in the mail and will try it on immediately, just one spray to the neck.

In Search of the Sweet Spot…:smiley:

We’ll be looking foward to read about your experinces. And I’m sure your 'small caliber’ inventory will turn into an full size armsroom. :slight_smile:

MVKBUGATTI your sooo right on. If things work out, yes, an armsroom it will likely be :slight_smile:

Appreciate your interest! As all of the journals and experiences show, although the mones are the same, the user’s and environments are not! Makes for some interesting reading! Almost like, living vicariously!!!

:slight_smile:

Ok… I wanted to put toward the beginning of my Journal, some of my ‘other’ threads… :smiley: :
Where it all started:

And some of my favorite ‘other’ threads:

Commercial line, MX and P's mixed to create...CHAOS!

Before I begin… Kudos to Mickaelia for the awesome gift of IO AND the GC!!!
Fuerte Abrazo!!! Big HUG!!!

You guys are outstanding!!

BTW: I am using the IS TOGO product!

Instant Shine Testing Day 1:
1(.5?- See Under Self effects) Sprays

App Points:
Right Wrist rubbed on left wrist and throat

Venue:
Drive to Client / Client office

Temp:
65 degrees F. Overcast and grey. - Humidity @ 70 %
Application Time:
11:30 am First Application

Took about 1 hour to arrive to Client office.
Self-Effects:
Took stock of how I was feeling before the application. I was feeling somewhat tired, gloomy, slow. If I could, I would not have been opposed to curling up in bed for a couple of hours! The cloud cover and overcast affects me in this way usually. So, I applied to my wrist because I was ready to wash it off with soap if the odor began to cause a migraine. But, the spray head sort of coughed and only gave me a little squirt. This was enough for me to smell IS and it gave me a very small inkling of a headache on my frontal lobe, usually the location of my allergic migraines. The odor was fine after a minute and no further progression of this precursor to a headache. I then applied a complete spray of IS to the bottom of my wrist and spread it to my other wrist and throat area. Didn’t feel much of anything, but about a few minutes later, started to have a small smile on my face. About 1/2 an hour later that small start of a headache went away. Would have an ocassional feeling of very minor light-headedness after that.
While driving, I started to feel very uplifted, tiredness was gone, and I was not wanting to hear about some boring study on an NPR program. I usually listen to talk radio shows or some jazz, but I wanted to listen to something more upbeat. I changed the FM stations and found myself nodding my head and tapping on the steering wheel, singing to songs like: Santa Monica by Everclear (YouTube - Everclear - Santa Monica) or Barracuda (YouTube - Barracuda- Heart)… :pHaven’t done that in a while…:smiley:
Feeling more alert and ready to go.
By 4:00 pm, was feeling a bit of the tiredness coming on, yawning. Then I sniffed my wrist and that went away again. Weird.

Effects On Others:
About an hour after application, stopped at a gas station to fill up, though I used my gas card and could of gotten my receipt at the pump, I decided to go in and see if anything noticeable would come of my interaction with the clerk. Waited on another customer in line and smiled and asked for my receipt. I asked him about traffic, what time it usually gets heavy there and told me. Was cooperative and nice like a normal clerk. However, I found myself feeling, not happy, but I would say, content or satisfied.
Spent 12:30 to 3:00 at the clients office, pretty normal stuff. Asians and Hispanics I met were reserved as usual. Said hi when addressed. IT director and IT manager, I’ve known many years, were acting the same, Caucasians.
Noticed though, the IT manager when talking with him alone, we were together in a cold 60 degree server room for 20 minutes, he was talking to me about some troubles he was having with hardware, a site that was down in Florida, he had to fly out there, etc. Lasted about 4 minutes. Don’t normally see him talk too much like that to me. I did notice a slight increase in speed of my memory recall. I normally can recall manual configurations if you give me a few seconds but the information was coming slightly faster, instead of 3 to 4 seconds, 1 to 2 as an example.

Basically, that was it. I haven’t seen anyone else. I’ll report later if 7 hours after application my wife will have any reaction.

Continued from 7 hours after application on forward

Still had a very very mild odor of IS on my wrists and on my throat as I could still smell it, 7 hours later. Note, I’m sensitive to odors, it may not be that way for the average Joe. I gave my wife a call, we’ll call her A, to let her know I was going to start some cooking. I started with the vege’s slowly sauteed in water and garlic base with cardemon and the chicken breast was prep’ed for the grill. When she arrived, gave her a quick hug and she was a little miffed about something that happened at work and I listened. We continued to cook together. This is another relaxing hobby we do together, though not as often as I would like.
Maybe it was the atmosphere and our Golden just being sooo cute staring at our hands giving us the ‘just give me a little bit of what you have!’ and following us around the kitchen. The looks she gives us when she does this when we’re cooking always puts us in a contented and relaxed mood. Not, much more happening during this time. Had many smiles and a few laughs.
Got a visit from our real estate agent, she seemed her same cheerful self. No change in her behaviour. News was not good since we are lowering the price point of our house. Interestingly, I had accepted this fact and was resigned to let the cards fall where they may, A had been flustered for the weeks prior about this potential update. I was continually reassuring her that we’d be fine with that reduction.
She took the news much better that I expected and I asked her about it after the agent left and A said 'I don’t know, It’s ok, I don’t like it, but it’s ok now, as long as the house is sold."
Could have been our conversations up to this point or the relaxed mood our cooking together put her in this state of mind.
By this time, don’t have an IS odor, @ 8 1/2 hours later.
NOTE: I was thinking that the flamed bell peppers I was preparing, onions and other spices would affect the IS if it was applied during this time? That is, since I had an almost no existent IS application, these other odors and heat would overrun the IS. Something I want to look into further on.

Ok, for additional information that I posted about myself, my intro, go HERE

Want things in order for me and others to find. So OK, I begin again…

Instant Shine Testing Day 2:
1 Spray (bottle spray was complete, worked as designed!)

App Points:
Throat and rubbed lower wrists over top of application point

Venue:
Drive to Office / Office / Clients offices

Temp:
Low 60s degrees F. Overcast and grey. - Humidity @ 80 %
Application Time:
8:30 am First Application

Took about 1/2 hour to arrive at Office.
Self-Effects:
Awoke about 6:30 am, feeling fine, refreshed. A ‘I’m fine with the world’ feeling. Application in the morning, no noticeable effects. Didn’t enhance my mood any more than where it is. Had breakfast with A. No difference in our morning rituals. Starting to feel a little more of a smile creep up on me up to 9:00 am. Precursor to the headache, slight pain to the frontal lobes, not there. No pain, though I did feel that I had a brightening of the eyes. Other effects, even though it started to rain and the weather was gloomy, didn’t phase me. Usually, I have an increase in yawning and general bleh, if I can use that term. Even in the afternoon, still felt alert and ready to roll. Just of note, since yesterday, I haven’t had much of an appetite.
NOTE: Does the IS have an effect on hunger? Gotta look into this…Some women would just kill to have something to curb appetite and cravings!!!

Talk about effects on others… In a bit!!!:smiley:

Effects on Others:

No real change in attitude from others. Met several people at different clients locations. Only thing, I guess I would comment on, is one guy, a Manager I’ve known for years, who is normally subdued toward me, I guess I give off some alpha vibe naturally, was acting the same toward me. But, once we were talking together for a few minutes he was smiling more and seemed to be in a better mode. We worked on a problem together for about an hour. I’d talk to him a few minutes at a time and at the end of our session, spent some time talking to him. He was very receptive to my explanations and looked like he was in a fine mood when I left him. This was in an open office space with many cubicles and in his smaller office during most of our chats.
Really, didn’t notice anything huge from receptionists or office workers, several of whom I spoke to briefly. By 2 to 3 I didn’t have the IS scent, which was about 6 hours after application.

My Conclusions:

1 spray of IS to the throat and rubbed to the wrists will primarily give me some ‘feeling good’ and alert vibe. Doesn’t seem to spread out too much beyond a small sphere of influence. Basically, about 2 to 3 feet at about 2 to 5 minutes of exposure, will get some smiles and better mood from others. But this isn’t consistent with everyone.
What is IS good for?
1 spray of IS= ‘feeling good and alert’ self effects.

I’ll continue with 2 sprays on Friday. Probably leave Thursday as an off day. I think I’ll be testing with (2) days at one application level, take a break for 1, then continue by adding an additional application.

I’m thinking aloud now for your opines.

Should I just use (1) application or re-apply @ 5 to 6 hours later to have a consistent signature all day?

I could leave it with one to start and see how long the application lasts in a day… :roll_eyes:

I can understand how one can get ansy to get going on applications and just force a sweet spot!!!

Hope you get what you are looking for and your home is sold fast.:slight_smile: I haven’t worn any IS in over six months, however the way you describe the
self effects reminded me of those days.

Did I mention how awesome Mickaelia and Androtics are?!?!? I’ve been reading more posts and their great support not only of the products but personal as well!

Another Fuerte Abrazo!!! Big HUG!!!

I’ll be ordering some A314 and IG tomorrow!!! Love to see how you spread the joy to everyone here!!!:smiley::smiley:

Instant Shine Testing Day 3:
Dry Day

App Points:
N/A

Venue:
Work from Home/ Errands

Temp:
Upper 50s degrees F. Partly cloudy, grey occasionally. - Humidity @ 60 %
Application Time:
N/A

Self-Effects:
Awoke about 5:30 am, feeling tired. Cold nights aren’t my favs. Awoke feeling ‘I wanna go back to bed’. Worked for a couple of hours then went on some errands. Had breakfast with A. later on and no difference in our morning rituals. Other effects, a little of the bleh feeling with the mostly cloudy morning. This usually happens on cloudy days. The Seattle syndrome!
Not much else, normal day.
Hunger cravings were still low. Not sure what to make of that.

Effects on Others:
On my errands, salutations and some basic social conversations. Pretty normal, as in pre-pheromones. Though A did ask in the evening, why I didn’t use that cologne I had on yesterday. She likes it!

Also, I wanted to report what I used for my shower ritual!

  1. Johnson’s Baby Shampoo
  2. Dial 3D Soap Bar

For hair prep, I use ‘samy salon Volumizing Mousse’, checked the ingredients, towards the end it does have Parfum(fragrance) besides a slew of chemicals, hiss… nasty!!! I never paid it any mind before…
For shaving gel, Edge Extra Moisturizing with Vitimin E. Also has a slew of ingredients including fragrance…hiss… nasty!!!

OH, and almost forgot, for BO, La Crystal Naturel with no aluminum chlorohydrate. Just mixed with a couple of hydrogen and a single oxygen molecules and apply, then that’s it!

Instant Shine Testing Day 4:
2 x IS

App Points:
Throat and back of neck, rubbed bottom of wrists on application points

Venue:
Drive to Office/Office

Temp:
Mid to upper 60s degrees F. Sunshine, no clouds. - Humidity @ 68 %
Application Time:
8:30 am

Self-Effects:

Was feeling fine with an early morning walk with D. Emails and some phone calls early went smooth. Pretty average wake up prior to application. After application, a little more of a relaxed and content vibe. Need to see how it goes from here. I notice I’m slightly more focused and sharp. I remember immediate things that I need to have done, instead of, ‘Oops, I forgot that…!’ then get to it. Things come to me easier, if that explains it. I’m a bit more talkative than pre-pheromone usage. More upbeat. Stay with a conversation with others a little while longer.
Still in a good mood. Irritated slightly with some jerk’s driving habits, but, came right back to my feeling at ease mode. BTW, I’m usually get irritated often enough with the driving habits of others… Hey, this is LA driving!! The irritation usually lasts on me longer, depending on the offending driving habit, sometimes until I get to my destination.

Effects on others:

No effects on co-workers. Known them many years and conversations and interactions are pre-p normal.
Spoke with my immediate supervisor, about 3 hours after application, with exposure at 5 minutes in my office. He was more ‘open’ with other things not work related. Talked a bit about his tennis game and offered me some dark chocolate that he bought. He usually has a stash of sweets in his office. Somewhat out of character as when he is busy, he won’t stop to chat or offer sweets and we are busy this morning.
I had to take 5 and unplug for a bit. Convo’s with co-workers not out of the ordinary. Usually, we have a laid back mood going when the big boss isn’t around. Still have, after about 3 1/2 hours, I would say about a 30% strength of scent of IS on me.
Lunch wasn’t a big hoopla either. Went out to eat, server was pleasant, but normally so at this place. One thing of note: TEMP went up to lower 80’s (F) and perspiring very slightly. Humidity down to @ 40%. Hardly have any scent of IS, putting a percentage on it with 100% at application, it’s < 10%. That would be about 5 hours after application. I think that the warmer weather allows for a faster diffusion of the product.
NOTE: It’s looking more like it’s necessary to re-apply after about 3 to 4 hours in my case, if I want to have the same effect for a longer period of time back to back.

I saw your wishlist.

If you ever decide to start on putatives. Try the test packs undert he ExperiMone links.

Hi P51Mustang, I didn’t know it was showing!!!:o:p Now you made me blush!!!

I’ve read most of your journal and see you’re testing out the MX and P molecules as well. I’m most impressed with your stash!!!

Yes, I’ve been eying the the Experimones. I think if I had them in my grubby little hands I’d go crazy and be dripping pheromones for weeks!!!

I’ll be seeing if I get an order in eventually for those, once I’ve tested my IG and A314. Can be frustrating to get to the P’s and MX’s!!!

Great Journal P51!!! Love the attention to small details! Kudos to ya!! :slight_smile:

For the Experienced and Gurus of Pheromones!!! And from everyone else…

I’m just thinking that I should be incorporating some additional details in my reports…

Any suggestions of things that should be added to a report on reaching your sweet spot?

Basically, am I missing anything?!? I hate that, when you feel like your forgetting something…
To shake it off, I’d appreciate any suggestions and comments…!!! :confused:

Instant Shine Testing Day 5:
2 x IS

App Points:
Throat and back of neck, rubbed bottom and top of wrists on application points

Venue:
Errands and Class

Temp:
Mid to upper 60s degrees F. Sunshine, no clouds. - Humidity @ 60 %
Application Time:
8:30 am

Self-Effects:
I was feeling fine pre-p this morning. Awoke early and did a basic workout routine. Walked the D and made a hot beverage. After application, no immediate effects. Then, like a widening of the eyes feeling. If I was awake, I felt more so, if that can convey the feeling this way. Feeling sharp. A has made no mention of the ‘cologne’ or have I seen a change in her behaviour.
(I would have LOVED to have tested these out in Hong Kong!!!.. I digress…) I have a flow of thoughts that are clear and sometimes random but at the same time I feel collected and sure.

Comment on the rest later. Once I’ve had more interactions. :smiley:

Effect on Others:

Spoke to several friends while I was out. One guy and his wife and kids. A and I there and this guy had a smile on his face, seemed to get comfortable to talk about his things, trip abroad, family, etc. Usually a little more serious, but more of a loose tongue today.
His little boy, about 7, was very talkative. Had some interaction with him as I like to spend some time with kids as well. He didn’t seem much different than normal, but did seem to want to be with me more instead of with his mom. Total interaction, about 1 hour or so.

Out to lunch but servers and cashier no real positive or negative. Did feel more of an alpha vibe from the server, a bit more serious, but could have just been the day he was having. I felt like letting him have his way, not really caring if he wants to be perceived as the Alpha or not. IS seems to mellow me out some.

Not much, else up to now. I have very little IS on the tops of my wrists. Less than 20% I would say. About 4 1/2 hours after application. I’ll be having my class later on and I’ll see if there are any hits with students.
Nope, pretty standard stuff. I know my students well and there isn’t a change in them. After 5 to 5 1/2 hours, I have no odor of IS. Other staff, no change in attitude in themselves or toward me.

Conclusion:

2 X IS = Very positive self effects, sharper, clearer thought patterns and recall. Some mellowing of the attitude. Feeling awake and ready for the day. Some slow down in personal energy felt toward the end of the day.

Effects on others, possibly with more exposure about 10 minutes worth, some of that positive vibe is transferred. Really, no clear, attention grabbing hits. But, this was only within the approximate 4 hour window after application. I could see that an additional couple of sprays can help keep the same vibe going in others. For self effects, I would need the same application or down to 1x.

Tomorrow is a dry day. I’m thinking of using…

A314
IO
IG
IS
All together…??? Is that crazy? I haven’t decided quite yet.

Tomorrow evening I’ll be trying out 2xTUTH and IO, for sure, and see if there are any hits!!!:wink:

OK, verified that I have about 40 sprays per togo and 200 for the 30 ml bottles, here: https://pheromonetalk.com/t/read-me-first-helpful-topics-on-how-to-get-around/3106

On that thread, it’s on POST #8.

I was wondering where that info was!

Tried the A314x 2(Wanted 1 but them drops come out fast!)
IO x 3
IS x 3

Basically, seemed to have a mostly serious attitude during the day and was seeming to get more respect from other guys. As an example, meet up unintentionally with a guy at the door, he takes the initiative to open up for me, I smile and he looks at me, smiles and looks away.

I’ll post some other tomorrow.

Ok, did have a some carefree attitude as well, like, I’m in control, in charge, I’m comfortable with myself and you should respect me. Not much of demand for respect but a feeling of expecting it without pushing for it.

Friends who have known me for a while were still looking at me with the respect of an alpha. I did get a couple of IOI, touches to the arm, shoulder, and very friendly smiles, from guys and gals. This was in a ‘hey, I like to be with you and hear what you have to say’ attitude. Could have been the IO, Much more so than normal from these particular friends.

Anyhoo, back to the IS stand alone!!!

I’m liking the IS self effects and I will get IS for the self effects, though it doesn’t seem that I’m getting much effects from others at the concentrations I’ve been using up to now. We’ll see when I bump it up to 3 and 4 sprays. Likely, try 5 or 6 as a single day application after testing up to 4 and see what happens there.

*Instant Shine Testing Day 7(no testing on day 6)*: **
3 x IS

App Points:
Throat and back of neck, right side of neck and rubbed bottom and top of wrists on application points

Venue:
Errands and Work

Temp:
Mid to upper 80s degrees F. Sunshine, no clouds. - Humidity @ 35 %
Application Time:
11:30 am

Self-Effects:
I feeling very blah this morning. Slight bit of a headache and pushing myself to go through morning rituals. Worked from home and upon leaving applied my IS.
Felt better with the IS. More alert and ready to go. No more pushing to get to the next thing to do. I’m trying to figure out how to get it done and just do it. More of a ‘how can I help others’ attitude. Empathy would be it. Had taken something for my headache before my IS application and the pain subsided somewhat. Remained with me all day though had gotten to the point that I barely noticed it was there. IS application didn’t make a difference in this. I was afraid that at the higher dosage, it could have aggravated my headache. Fortunately, it didn’t.

Comment on the rest later. Once I’ve had more interactions.

Effect on Others:

When I left, I met a gal on one of my errands. I’ve known her for many years and although we usually chat for a while and we continue on our way, it was somewhat different. She normally will have a sh-peal about how bad things are, financial problems, back pains, etc. I’m usually just listening and cheering her up, if I’m in the mood, otherwise I’m just listening politely.
She did start on that conversation path as usual, but started to stray from it. I was being much more tentative to her conversation and had some thought about how this or that can help out. I asked about her boy who is in elementary school and then she seemed to brighten a bit about that. BTW, when I ask about her boy She’ll usually say he’s fine, then complain about the school system, the large class sizes, etc. Instead she talked about some project he is working on and she is helping him out with it. Dad doesn’t have time, but does what he can the evenings he comes home early.
I told her to focus on those good things and hold on to them, because if we focus on the crap, it’ll overrun our lives, or something to that effect. She brightened up and asked when A and I can come over for dinner, maybe this Saturday?
She definitely felt better and had a brighter outlook on things. It was no more that 5 minutes in the store. I’d call that a hit.
For the checkouts and others I spoke with that I don’t know, I didn’t see any obvious, going out of their way, behaviour to help me out or to look in my direction. Haven’t had any real obvious hits on people that I don’t know or just meeting briefly. Work seemed to be a standard affair with the social interactions. Though my self effects did help out in listening to others and seeing what is best for them, whatever the conversation was about. Hope that’s clear enough…
Basically, 3 sprays helps me out quite alot, with some brightening of the lives of others that I know. Not, much in the way of people I just met or who I don’t have much social interaction. I’ll keep an eye on this tomorrow as well.

I’m loving this thread! I like your standalone approach and how descriptive you’re being. Plus it also good to hear from others who havent had any experience with pheromones yet.

Keep up the good work! Hopefully I can make a “journal” of my effects that parallels this one.

This is very interesting to me! One of the best threads i’ve seen so far, especially from a new user. I will try to follow this example when some of my mones come in.