GetTheEdge's Journal

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Hey

So my -mones arrived afew days ago

A314b, TUTH, IS, IH, AMMO

First thing thing I did was spray on some IS (on monday)
1 spray 2xIS under nose
+
1 spray 2xIS on front neck

I did feel pretty good, was talking to a friend on the phone feeling pretty good

Was smiling while talking to someone

At some point with the IS I did feel like I had kind of a “rush”

It seems to be a mood enhancer

Day 2, Tuesday I put on similar
1 spray 2xIS under nose
1 spray 2xIS on front neck

  • 1spray Ammo on front neck

Yeah I felt fairly good, maybe kinda manly, the ammo seemed to be doing something to me, maybe making me feel abit more confident in myself/sure of myself, maybe an incy bit more agressive too

Wednesday day 3
1 spray 2xIS under nose
1 spray 2xIS left ear
1 spray 2xIS right ear
1 spray 2xIS chin
1 spray 2xIS front neck

So this is equivalent to 10 sprays of normal strength IS

I’m feeling pretty good today, I’ve been listening to music for quite a while now, dancing around my living room, and smiling abit

I do feel good

I havent been clubbing in a while and I kinda miss the music and the workout of dancing

Unfortunately there where confounders such as having a coffee today, and chocolate at other times, and a strong strong chilli meal

So far my experience certainly supports the notion IS is doing something, and definately does not support the notion that IS does nothing

Of course though I will be doing multiple tests, and without possible confounders before reaching a more researched/tested conclusion

That said I’ve had chilli before, I’ve had coffee & chocolate before, I know what they do, and when I had the huge super chilli meal (which revved me up) + the IS I could tell there was extra that I havent felt before (an extra “rushh”) so its looking good

I’ve had a coffee today, and still have the 5 double-strength IS sprays on, and I still feel like dancing to the music, and smiling somewhat often

I’m of the opinion that pheromones are context specific, its no use putting on IS and then trying to make yourself feel pissed off, you have to support the function of the pheromones - i.e. when I go out nightclubbing I should get in a good mood, and the pheromones will be an enhancer and support and make it feel stronger

Of course as I test for months I will be able to reach better conclusions

note:
I’m glad a good smell has been integrated into the androtics products, as I know some products can even have a somewhat offensive odor, the androtics products smell nice

On the weekend I plan on testing A314b + TUTH + IS + IH

At some point I will probably try out Ammo + IS

and also just TUTH - haha yes to OD levels even, as long as I dont feel pissed off myself, I dont mind seeing what kind of extreme reactions happen in other people though

Pheromone usage history:
A good number of years ago I used some cheap pheromone products from a local store and some athena

Dating/etc experience:
hmm alot

Age:
26

My intro thread with some more info about me:

I’m always open to advice
Not a newb when it comes to women lol, I’ve coached some guys to get results too

Stuff I’d like to try:

A314 oil + TUTH + IH + IS + P83

Ammo + IS

Pure TUTH

Nightclub Report (#3). 2x A314b. 3x IH. 4x double-strength IS
Does anyone have no effects?
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Congrats on the new journal. You’ve already done some serious IShine testing! Yeah, if you haven’t already, I’d suggest you check out the links on my sig, Intro to Mones and how do I know what are hits to hone your observational abilities with knowledge.

You’re keeping in mind other influences in you that could skew your reactions. I commend you for that! :slight_smile:

Now, I’m registered! So I WILL be back! :smiley:

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Hey buddy thanks for the reply

I don’t mean to toot my own horn (but I should be able to get more targeted advice, and more advanced social interaction advice without people assuming I will fall prey to more basic mistakes - by describing where I’m at and where I’ve come from etc), but I’m kind of an expert, at least in many things

like in the “how do i know if im getting hits” it says “Body language, Learn to read it.” lol, I’ve got like 4 years experience with body language, and others come to me to learn about body language :wink:

TONS of great info in the links though, I’ll definately read through them and some of them I havent read yet :slight_smile:

I guess I should admit that I’ve had ALOT of demand locally for me to teach the guys pickup, but havent really done it that often as I originally got in the game ~5 years ago for myself, though when I have taught guys they got great results, like a guy who was a total newbie had only slept with like 1 woman or something getting afew kisses and a phone # from a hot babe, incidentally during our training mission i picked up a woman and ended up sleeping with her 50+ times

and I did use pheromones for a long time, many many years ago

so I should at least be somewhat progressed on the “learning curve” already :wink:

That said, always looking forward to learning new things!

That said I am more accustomed to getting results like thomaslavoie’ in A simple spray of TUTH (during the time i was doing well - which isnt now lol) than dealing with some of the newbish issues I see posted here that no longer even exist for me

I’ve put on weight, started smoking, been out of the game, been under stress etc so its going to take a while before I get back to where I was though

I mean I’ve done 5 minute f closes, picking up strippers etc with no -mones and whilst not even being spectacularly good looking or anything

So I fully expect as I gear up and get back in the game, to be getting some good results

hmm I have put on quite alot of weight though lol which is making me feel abit insecure, it will take ages to burn that weight off too

With pheromones I want to eventually find a panty dropper mix lol, -mones plus my game = instant HB9 wanting to sleep with me and we do it :wink:

I’ve done that before (i.e. literally meeting multiple HB9s and soon after they want to sleep with me so we do) however I was doing very well back then it was a while ago and im abit messed up atm its gonna be a while before im back on top of things

I’m thinking A314 or IG + TUTH + IH + IS + P83 might be a good panty dropper mix combined with good game and (know what you’re doing) fast escalation

Its also ok if me and the girl go through a less speedy seduction

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Well, well, well… such an expert in our ranks! :stuck_out_tongue: From your posts, yes, you do have the experience, the knowledge and the attitude to make things happen for you. I’m glad you could share your experience with the mones that you have in a journal format.

Yeah, we’re all on different experience levels with our social interactions and that’s the beauty of the forum… we can all learn something new… even, us ‘experts’! :slight_smile:

Heh, heh, heh… The panty dropper mix… I’ve read on the forum of a panty scorcher mix… maybe related?! Enjoy! :smiley:

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lol yes even us “experts” can always learn something new :wink:

I should be able to give good pickup advice to people here in the forums too

I’ll certainly be able to learn alot more about pheromones as this forum is a wealth of knowledge about pheromones and some very experienced people here too

Regarding panty scorcher, I think it said in that thread that catlord had also made a mix called panty dropper, so yes sounds very related :wink: will keep an eye on what he’s upto

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A smell comparison - M11 vs Ammo

So a number of weeks ago a guy on the internet I know was using M11 so I ordered the same as as him

This was before I did alot of research and decided to buy a bunch of Androtics products

So the pherone m11 (part -none, -rone and -nol) arrived a while ago, I put it on to see what kind of self effects I might get

hmm it did not really smell good

I could definately smell it

I remember on amazon that a number of people sayed it stank actually

I didnt get quite that extreme a reaction to it.

So I smeared some on my top upper lip and under my neck
Hmm it had what smelt like pheromones, or BO, or stink

But strangely it was hard to tell whether it smelt bad, or good lol

Sometimes I would think that smells nice, other times that smells AWFUL, and at other times, it would be “interesting” to catch that smell

However after a while of it being on my upper lip I kept getting whiffs of an offensive odour, like when i closed the pantry door and got a blast of air I would get a whiff of the BO/-mone smell I plainly did not like

I had to wash it off after I while because I thought this is just gross, I didnt like it, once when I smelt straight from the bottle I even felt a little like puking (this only happened once out of the many smells of the bottle!)

So anyway when the Ammo arrived (equal parts -none, -rone, -nol afaik) and I wored it as described in my first post (Day 2 - Tuesday)

It had a good smell too it, clearly Androtics has been paying attention to hiring quality fragrance designers and putting good work into creating a blend of good smells to include in their pheromone products

At times I could get a faint smell of what smelt like -mones, but this was more just recognition than anything else (certainly did not smell offensive!)

hmm that afew times I got a whiff and was like (aha! thats that same smell i got from the pherone m11) probably of -rone + -none + -nol or whichever of those is most smellable (-none?) BUT it was no where near as offensive as m11, infact, the WORST that ever happened was a very incy wincy tiny bit of “shit i hope this doesnt end up smelling like m11” lol

I mean like once or twice I was probably like "i’d rather not smell that’ HOWEVER ammo was about 1 million times better smelling than m11

i never had to wash the ammo off, just left it on all day and night and it was a good smell

I’m glad quality fragrance has been designed into the product

thats it for my smell test

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Now, the proof is in the pudding… How were the reactions from others with M11 and comparing to AMMO? Wondering if you got to that point in your testing yet.

Great comparison, though, of the self effects and scents of both mone products! :slight_smile:

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I havent had time yet to go out in the field and test their effects on other people

I do have a friend (who is the boss at his work) on his second day (today) of trying out A314b at work.

I so wanted to to out out tonight clubbing and testing everything out but I woke up at 5am this morning (and havent been sleeping too much the last few days) so unfort I will probably be too tired to go clubbing tonight!

Which is a bugger because I really wanted to try them out at the clubs lol!

When I do get to test them I will post here :wink:

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Friend using A314b at work - 2 day test

A314b Report

I lent my A314b to a friend to test for two days at his work. He is the Director of a Department. I wanted other people to try the pheromones and to compare their experiences to mine.

He used it on a friday at work and on saturday for a work conference he was a principal organiser of. All highly paid professionals.

Product:
A314b rev 29 (2011)

Self Effects:
He reported feeling abit more confident. It took afew hours to take effect.

Noticed Effects during the day:
Everything went really well both days he said. All interactions with others went really well. They where good days everything went really well.

People did as he asked, usually they might think about it, but this time they just said “Yes!” and did it really well no questions asked.

He had ALOT of authority. He kept mentioning how he had Alot of Authority that day. He stated many times how he had alot of authority

He stated he believed people where more obliging to him due to his wearing of the pheromones

He kept mentioning how at the conference he received ALOT of compliments including how it was the best conference they’ve ever had (and he was the main organiser responsible for it)

Environment:
Friday work, professional environment
Saturday conference, ~25 professional speakers, ~70 professional guests. Conference and Dinner. All highly paid professionals.

Range:
Sitting next to people at Dinner, people where respectful and complimentative
Friday work general office range, both close and far, was a very good day, all his interactions went very well

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November 2011 - First night out in a while Report at:

Using 2x A314b. 2x IH. 1x 5mcg TUTH. 4.9x ISx2.

Lots of hits, I wasnt doing a great deal of things myself to get the hits

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November 2011 - Second Night out in a while Report at:

Using:**
2x A314b. 1.5x 5mcg TUTH (7.5mcg). 3x IH . 1x AMMO . 6x double-strength IS.
**

Things went well.

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I wore 2 sprays of double-strength IS and 1 spray of A314b today before going to pick up afew things from the grocery store

Self Effects:
I felt really good, I still feel good. I think the even the A314b alone makes me feel good and more confident.

Others:
Wasnt in the store that long
But one of the ladies that works there finally paid me more attention than before, saying thank you for my ever so slight/imperceptible movement out of her way as she was moving something through the corridor

and her and the other woman in that aisle kept walking past me alot lol, much more than necessary

I’ve been there plenty of times, Moving past me once or at most twice is enough and what normally happens (usually its only once, if at all)

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December 2011 - Mones while shopping for clothes

On the weekend I went out to buy some clothes (afew days ago) with a friend

So applied the -mones of course to see what would happen

I thought I should write this out before I forget!! thankfully I did save some notes in a text file on the day, unfort I am very tired while writing this anyway

Mones applied:
1x double-strength IS top of hair/head
1x double-strength IS back of neck
Two double-strength IS front neck

1x A314b behind left ear
1x A314b behind right ear

Tried to apply IH and TUTH to back of neck, but the bottles had evaporated, quantities that actually came out?
TUTH - hmm I dont think I even detected moisture, maybe 0.0001%
IH - two little bits of moisture detected, that is, they passed the small threshold for detection of moisture, probably even less than 0.001% of an ml

Self Effects:
I maybe felt a little authoritative, this was probably heightened by the lack of cigarette, with only occasionally!! less than my usual length of patience

I felt good and confident

Effects On Others:
I’m getting more pheromones lol, they’re working!!

So walked past a store and was pleased to see they had some great shirts just like what I like, and a big selection too

I go in, I find 4 shirts to try on

This salesgirl starts helping me ALOT, like so much personal attention

I tried 3 of the shirts on in another size and she of course went and got them all for me, very eager to help me. of course this is nothing that couldnt happen due to eagerness to make a sale, but when taken in whole one can draw strengthier conclusions

So im changing in the changeroom, she must HAVE COME INTO MY CHANGEROOM LIKE TEN TIMES!! LOL

haha was she trying to cop a peek?

I remember once a sales chick kept sitting outside my changeroom looking in after i was FLIRTING HEAVILY with her, but apart from that I’ve never had a salesgirl try and come into my changeroom (and actually let herself in too) so many times.

She seem quite enthralled by me

I do happen to have the skill to tell between fake IOIs and real ones (such as the usual stuff salesgirls will do in a clothing store)

The items where already marked down, but then she just decided to give me another 20% discount… no reason

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Friend seemed in very good mood

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Again totally not invisible, I had a “high profile” everywhere I went, everyone paying attention to me, people getting out of my way when I walked near them etc

You know how if two people will collide walking in opposite directions, one will get out of the way, people where quick to make room for oh so important me

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Abit later in the day ran into some older people we know

She went to kiss me hello and kinda took a whiff of my kneck, she seemed abit shocked/affected/intent/alert/alerted/eyes-opened-wider

Then she lost her balance lol

I’m not joking this is what happened

She also said “What a nice young man and so handsome too!” then she was stuck next to me very close like glue, kinoing me alot too

This lady is usually very nice, but never have I had this level of affection from her before

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At one store im checking out the clothes they’ve put just outside the front of the store and catch the eye of one hot chick with her other hot friend

its only momentary, i am attracted

They where walking passed when this happened

They keep walking, but then they stop turn around and come into the store I’m in. We probably would have talked right then and there if I hadnt diverted and turned away/disconnected/closed-the-interaction. That is they came towards me and I thought I should take afew steps towards them and initiate, but I didnt instead if turned away and diverted

Stupid me is ending the “interaction” but they keep walking past me and at one point making direct EC and smiling (they made a lil extra effort to initiate since i was diverting) so i smiled backed but kept walking away from them and diverted again lol

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The salesgirls in that store seemed to respect me alot, kinda like “He’s important”

I did have a suit jacket black leather shoes and A314b on

One of them seemed quite interested in me, and then AGES later just popped up next to me as Im buying juice in the food court

When i’m wearing -mones alot of stuff like this keeps happening, the same woman just popping up near or next to me

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another store, instant chemistry between me and a hot salesbabe in a hot tight black dress, lots of flirting

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later we go to the food court, im getting a freshly squeezed juice

my mate is seated next to some chicks so of course i sit there

only there for 5-10 minutes, get up and leave, have a peek back as we are far enough from the group and sure enough one of the women is looking back intently at me, with that very interested look

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lots of women paying me attention, looking directly at me usually in the eye and smiling

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Wearing this big phero cloud on me, kinda gives me the attention and interest as if i was a woman with a nice rack, my attractiveness goes up

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Ishine is pretty remarkable for consistency in hits. Its the only product I can be absolutely sure will work in any situation. I never have to worry about none aggression or over-talking with IO. Sometimes IH will be too deep or A314 to stand-offish. Ishine just works every time and for me creates boundless opportunity.

Those definitely sound like hits. While she might have been interested in the sale, there are other customers and spreading it around betters her opportunity to make more money. She stuck with you and that my friend is a hit.:slight_smile:

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I agree. I put on a spray of ISx2 under my neck about 30 minutes ago and already I’m feeling in a good calm, peaceful happy/pleased kind of mood

That day with the clothing store chick all the women kinda “Perked up and took notice” of me

IS is my favorite all-round product so far, useful for every situation :smiley: Who doesnt wanna feel good

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hmm I’ve still got my new years eve report to put in :slight_smile:
Once its in I’ll post here