I have a fair bit of experience with Women, and I used to use pheromones many many many years ago when I somehow stumbled upon them, downloaded a research study from my university’s journals access system and bought the product studied
It was definately doing something, I also bought afew cheap ones from a local shop that sold those kinds of things
I seemed to have an Edge, when I picked up women in the nightclubs everything seemed to go so smoothly, after a while I kind of noticed I had run out of “The Edge”, like my pheromone supply had been all used up, and about a year after I kind of noticed that I was annoyed that things werent as easy as they used to be, something seemed to be missing.
Anyway I have a fair bit of knowledge about women, pickup, and lots of experience, with many full closes with amazingly beautiful women too.
Fast forward to today and I have been through alot of stress and put on 25kg of weight and taken up smoking again, lol, so I’m certainly not in my prime anymore either. Also the way it ended with my last gf kind of left me feeling abit “off” too.
With people always wanting me to come out with them and “go pick up chicks / have fun / etc” I figure why not, I should “get back into the game” so to speak.
I figure I should make things easy on myself and dump a bunch of pheromones all over me too, no point in making it difficult
I wouldnt mind a a long term relationship with the right woman too
After doing some research on the internet, it seems to me that Androtics Direct seems to be the Bee’s Knees of pheromones & pheromone research, I mean you guys are even making and testing an extensive range of experimental pheromones etc, and from what I read buying top quality USA research grade pheromones
So it seems to me to be the best place to get top quality pheromones from, and products that actually work, unless I have just fallen prey to some very clever marketing
I look forward to posting more, and also posting what I am considering as my first purchase from Androtics Direct and hopefully receive some feedback on the mix I have researched online extensively
Tell us a bit more about you! What should the mones do for you, what effects do you expect, so we can tell you some products which will work in this way!
But I will suggest you some great products of which I think you will really like them!
A314 is a alpha male formula for trust and respect! It makes you to the leader and creates a nice high social value which works also great for dating high status girls! This is also one of ADs flagship products!
Ammo is a nice allaround product for attraction purposes and it’s very well rounded and works as a real cologne!
IO is a must have in my opinion for steering mixes in a more social way
IS is also a must have, this creates a sunshine aura and makes you and everyone around you just smiling
TUTH is something to steer mixes in the more sexual direction but I woulnd’nt use it on daytime! Works great to make A314 or Ammo more sexual!
Well, to get straight to the point, I want some products that will lead the hot woman into my bed, lol
But also, I think the Respect/VIP/Leader feel of A314 will be beneficial for me too, I run a social club here, so pheromones that help men follow my lead, respect me more etc would only help with that
I figure I could also wear A314 on dates, or at the movies with a GF etc, perhaps wear A314 when I’m with a girlfriend who I want to stay attracted to me long term
Instant Shine is looking great from what I’ve read about it!
I really want something that makes me feel good
Sometimes I feel anxiety, I dont know if there is a product expecially for that (apart from valium or anti-anxiety herbs lol) but I think the Instant Shine would really help with that
I posted in New Member: My First Androtics Purchase that im thinking of getting A314 + TUTH + IS + IH, and Ammunition as a spare as I think that wearing A314 + TUTH + IS + IH all at once will have more of a bomb effect, i.e. have a much stronger more real reaction to it
I think the A314 will get men in the club to follow me around more, i.e. I will be the one with the most influence over which part of the bar we sit in etc, other women will notice this
When I open mixed groups of people with guys and girls in them (with a particular girl in the group being who I’m after) then everyone in the group will basically treat me with more respect and not cock-block etc
Turn Up The Heat will make women want to fuck me I hope!
Instant Shine will make me and those around me feel really really good
Instant Honesty, well sometimes I have difficulty connected on a deeper level with some of the women in the club, and they often seem to need that before they’ll go home with me that night. And with the breakup with my last girlfriend I dont really want to really deeply connect with someone right now. Hopefully IH will help her feel what she needs to feel.
And with IH hopefully she will be more overt about her attraction to me, making it easier for me to take her home
Please let me know if I am at least somewhat accurate with my assumptions about pheromones here, after all the research I’ve done lol
Your ideas should work great! against your anxiety sometimes for me IS and IO together work great!
IH is great for dates and one on one situations but for clubs IO is much more energetic! IH works also against anxities but for me it’s also a bit calming! Try IO/IH in 2:1 relation and it works awesome in clubs as social component of your mix!
Now the best you can do is get your products and make your own experiences! I wish you much fun on your journey!
I decided against buying the IO because of the text on the A314 product page “Alpha A314” Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men :: Pheromone Oil (Slow Release) :: Androtics Direct (A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314) that says: "To make everyone feel greater comfort around you, use with Instant Openness. Please note that this may reduce the positive mood & leadership effects A314 has on other men."
and the Leadership (and positive mood) effects on other men where rather important for me for A314, in fact the leading other men effects of A314 are pretty much very important for me
am I wrong here? I do need to do something about the anxiety lol
I might have to get some special herbs or something, i guess it is also a kind of social anxiety
Could I perhaps get club-energy with a vodka redbull lol
I read somewhere on the forums that IS and IO had the same ingredients beta and alpha -nol I think? but in different ratios, I dont know if this is true though
Thanks for the best wishes and I look forward to some good results as this mix should be a bigger mix of pheromones than I’ve ever used before, so should be something new and exciting for me to experience
I do remember all sorts of funny reactions when I first tried mones all those years ago lol
Yeah expecially with A314 + IS + TUTH when I open a bunch of girls well (which I can do) the set should blow open
Yeah I agree, I dont personally feel I specifically need a product just to make opening easier, the instant shine which makes me feel good will probably put me in a good mood and make it easier to open anyway
So yeah I’m thinking for me A314 + IS + TUTH + IH should be a good mix, i think that comes to about $288+shipping or so, if the products work as advertised, I dont mind he price lol
hmm yeah A314 is the high status male, IS is the everyone feels good, should be simple to be in afew different sets, TUTH is for that make her want to fuck you feeling. And I’m using the IH for that deeper connection feeling and hopefully make her be more overt in her wishes for coitus
Oops I meant to say IO and IH lol thanks for the correction
So I dont really need to buy both IO and IH when they are pretty much different ratios of the same ingredients
and yes, I certainly dont want to dimish the leadership (and other?) effects of the A314
I’m glad IH goes well with A314, I wasnt going to get the IH but I think IH covers what is at this time abit of a weakspot of mine (the deeper connection, not really feeling like that atm), and I know the things IH claims to do seem rather important to women lol
If anyone does see any problems / redundancies / improvements / potential issues or just plain agrees with my mix I sure would like to know before committing $288 of my hard earned lol
After using the mix, I’ll post some reports in the forums about how the night went and possible effects of the -mones
IO and IH do get quite different responses - Personally I get on best with IH but others report superb results with IO, so it depends on a whole lot of other factors, not least your targets. I would certainly give them both a go at some point to see what works best with you.
hmm I just dont think I’ll be buying IO instantly, as it says it reduces the leadership effects of the A314, the A314 leadership effects was one of the things that sealed the deal for getting the A314 in the first place heh
A314 + IS + TUTH + IH = win?
IO just dont seem to fit with that lol
hmm if all these phero-products dont smell too much, I might use Jean Paul gaultier Le Male as the cologne as that seems to have a masculine smell which women would probably find sexy
You don’t have to hang it all on A314 - In fact, depending on age/other factors A314 can come-off a bit daunting/serious/“daddy”/not cuddly for a lot of women - esp younger. So whilst I’d avoid anything containing A314/IO, I would still consider IO for other mixes eg Ammo/IO/IS - very happy/chatty/playful/sexy & good around younger women or for straightforward hookups.
Personally I would just go for A314/TUTH - for the “man of few words & unashamed sexuality,” vibe. Sometimes I’d add-in IS if needed but IH is something I’d more use for work/status mixes or with certain putatives - which produce a “wow!”/fawning effect at you and your considerable talents.
True I dont have to hang it all on the A314, I just want to, at least for the particular effect I’m thinking of trying out
“A314 can come-off a bit daunting/serious/“daddy”/not cuddly for a lot of women - esp younger.”
hmm I’m not sure how this works, could you elaborate please ?
They are still attracted to you right, but just feel abit of intimidation because of how high value you are?
Or with the A314 you come off as older more powerful perhaps, and this simply may be slightly intimidating for the younger women, but as long as you can set them at ease, its ok?
With IS + IH in the mix that should help with the “daunting/serious/“daddy”/not cuddly” right?
I was thinking IH would be great to add a sense of connection, something important to her if she’s going to leave the club with me that night and well you know, do the deed (that nite)
Hmm I’m also now thinking, I wont magically come up with the perfect mix just by reading about them, so im thinking of ordering A314b, TUTH, IS, IH all in the ToGo versions and then simply doing alot of field testing with them to see how they work
If they are absolutely amazing of course I can just buy more
After seeing them in the field, I can vary the mixes somehow and try and improve the effect for me =)
If you have an effect in mind and can be congruent with it then yes - go for it! Just that A314 is a bit different from the other pheros and its not quite a spray & go product - You may find you need a while to get into its sig. I’m still finding new depths to it well over eighteen months since I started using it. Amazing product if you give it its dues!
Yes - I have to accept that for all I like it, you do get marked positive reactions good and bad. Quite a few women, esp younger or younger outlook do not take so well to it or are intimidated. Remember that A314 is not an attraction product per-se. It is partly the rone thing I think - Which is associated with the mature/fatherly/serious/LTR vibe and that may be likable but does not prove attractive all the time. If they want straightforward fun, it does not convey it so well. Mind you, the ones it does attract do tend to be quality.
IS certainly helps a lot - Maybe most so but IH is good for the sense of bonding and closeness plus it still loosens the tounge.
Really, the only way to find out is to get out there and use it and if it dosen’t get the required effects, don’t give-up - simply reposition your mix and try something else - I would still see TUTH/IH/IS as a very good alternative for clubbing - strongly sexual but well moderated by attractive socials and I’ve had good results with TUTH/IS/betanol (component of IH) before - in fact my ex was very jealous about how much fun I could have with her colleagues (most early-mid 20s) or how much attention I’d get from much younger women when I wore that to clubs with her.
hmm true I’m not going to read online, and come up with the perfect mix first go lol
So yeah, the only real way to come up with the best mix for me is to order a bunch of products and try them out a bunch of times in the field, and see what works for me, what happens etc, and try varying the mix if necessary
I notice A314b + TUTH + IS 2X + IH + Ammo in ToGo bottles comes to an affordable $72 + shipping, with ~40 sprays each that gives me plenty of opportunity to try out the mix(es) and see what works for me, then i can always buy larger vials of what works for me, later on
$72 to try them out is also sounding alot better to me than $288 to make abit of a leap of faith when I’ve never tried them before
ToGo is also convenient in that I can put something like IS in my jeans for when im at the club and maybe I’ve been there a while and some of the original IS has worn off and I want abit of a happyness boost, or TUTH to amp up sexual tension
“IS certainly helps a lot - Maybe most so but IH is good for the sense of bonding and closeness plus it still loosens the tounge.”
hmm all great effects =)
I must admit, I could do with a hand on the bonding front, since the breakup with my last gf I’ve been abit loath to reconnect with someone on a deep level, not quite ready for it yet. However bonding etc is going to be important to a woman before she will sleep with a man
hmm so I get what you’re saying, A314 might not be the most appropriate for the bar&club scene, and it kind of a highly developed product, a sophisticated product?
It isnt a punch you in the face product, like say instant jerk, or to a lesser extent TUTH + IS, though the more potent A314a would be faster acting than the A314 oil
And A314 also takes some time to modify/learn/train my behaviour to be more congruent with the signals/signature that a314 sends off
Its something to wear a drop of every day to work
I was thinking of also wearing A314 in non “picking up girls” settings like when I have something important to do or business to attend to or have to run a meeting or something.
Ammo + IS is also looking like an interesting combo
Androstenone, thats the main thing that sexually attracts women
(and to some unknown extent, I read IS can have some sexually suggestive effects on women)
But unfortunately you can overdose on -none
So is there anything that amps up a womans sexual attraction for you (her wanting to have sex with you), but without the overdosing effects?
Otherwise there is a limit to how much the -mones can turn her on, because you will simply OD with too much -none, I want to use lots and lots of turn-her-on chemicals without
"A314 is not an attraction product per-se. It is partly the rone thing I think - Which is associated with the mature/fatherly/serious/LTR vibe and that may be likable but does not prove attractive all the time. If they want straightforward fun, it does not convey it so well. Mind you, the ones it does attract do tend to be quality. "
hmm interesting
That might explain alot of what happened when I was using athena many years ago which is rumoured to be mainly DHEA which is a kind of -rone
hmm so maybe I wont wear A314 in the club (but I’ll probably give it a bunch of test runs anyway), but maybe substitute ammo in for A314 when going to the club.
So perhaps I might try out something like Ammo + IS + IH + TUTH for straight up sexual fun with chicks in clubs, and/or same night lays
sometimes though I do want a quality girlfriend long term, so I’m glad A314 would be good for that
I look forward to experimenting with these -mones and getting some results!
Im quite enthusiastic about them, and look forward to getting back some of that edge I used to have, but hopefully without having to put too much effort into it lol
