I’ve just begun reading about Pheromones the past few days, and stumbled upon this forum yesterday. I have been reading through these forums and found them to be very helpful as well as interesting, and even entertaining! As far as buying out a few Androtics products to test goes, consider me sold!
However, I am the type of person who tends to prefer having done research on things before jumping to conclusions. Which is why i’ve been having trouble choosing which products I should try out first. The first pheromone I read about was Pherlure, which intrigued me quite a bit. But after reading some (or a lot) I find myself leaning more towards the Androtics products, as well as ones like Primal instinct (pherlure gets very mixed opinions from what I see).
I am 20 years old, from canada. I consider myself for the most part to be a quiet guy who is shy at first, with a more outgoing side once I’m more comfortable. I find that my personality sort of clashes with my quiet/shyness because on the inside I have a loud personality just waiting to burst out. To get to the point, like most newbies, I am looking for some help with suggestions of what to try. And from my readings, I know that the people in this forum are very welcoming and try to help as much as they can.
I am looking to you guys/girls for some help choosing some starting points. This being a forum based on Androtics products (for the most part) I expect to see most suggestions to be Androtics. however if there is other ones that you feel you have used and work well please don’t leave them out. As I said earlier I am the kind of person who likes information, especially if i’m going to be spending money. So along with your suggestions I would appreciate some comments as to why you like them, etc.
To be honest I don’t have one specific outcome I am looking for. I am interested in trying many different ones which is why I have opted to try out more than just one product. The first impression of pheromones (as i’m sure is the same for most people) I had is that they are used to attract females/males. But upon doing more research (mainly on these forums) I’m definitely interested as well in what these other ones can do.
Let me assure you, after I try a few, if they get me results, i KNOW i will be back for more and to try new ones.
On a side note could someone also please help me clear up what the differences are between the products. For example items such as “Ammunition and Turn Up The Heat” or “Instant Female Magic and Instant Openness” seem quite similar. A314, too, seems like a combination of a few item’s effects?
If certain products are “out of stock” when will i have the chance to buy them? Does the website accept paypal?
I know this post calls on a lot of answering and discussing and I hope this wasn’t too much of a read. Feel free to give input or insight on anything, any help is better than none. I am excited to see some responses so that I can form a better idea of where to begin and start ordering and experimenting!
Thanks.
Hey, hows it going Ace? Yea, the Pherlure conversation has been going around here for forever. Personally, i enjoyed the smell of pherlure and it got this lovely black chick attracted to me. Sadly, i acted too late. O well. I empathize with you on that personality aspect. I am fairly shy in the beginning too but im really loud, funny, and somewhat obnoxious when you do get to know me. Well, since the thing with you is breaking out with the shell, i do recomment, wait for it, INSTANT OPENNESS, but you clearly found that on your own.
Alright to clear things up
Ammunition and Turn up the Heat both have Androstenone. However, Ammunition has a more complex mix of Pheromones whereas Turn up the heat is an attack on a womans sexuality directly.
Instant Female Magic allows women to feel relaxed with you, however, the side effects with us males is that we tend to become more quiet and reserved, which is bad if you want to get to know more women. Women dont like quiet guys. Thats the reason its paired up with either Instant Shine, to make you feel happy and emanate this feeling of being upbeat, or Instant Openness so that you become more talkative.
A314 is a respect pheromone. None of the products here are “super pheromones” thats all in one. They all have pros and cons. A314’s cons is that people are less likely to talk to you, however paired with Instant Openness or Instant Shine, is an excellent way of attracting High quality women. Respect = power.
Im pretty sure the website does accept paypal and you just have to wait or call Jasmin to see if items are in stock. Good luck mate and I hope you have some fun experiments.
Thanks for the reply BlazingAzn88. Headed to work now and I plan to make a purchase when i get home. What to buy is still in the air, anyone else care to add?
EDIT: I am considering going for one of each of the to-go samples? Is this a good idea? It certainly would solve the whole trying to decide thing. and what about A314, is that a must-have? I think the bucks could add up so if i get some replies and decide to order can I please have the coupon thing for $15 dollars off?
Heya fella, welcome. I’m impressed, reading your intro, with the clarity of your self-sense.
Perhaps you’ll help me understand better by putting this all into a different frame of reference:
If you could learn anything from using pheromones (whether it’s the truth about how people respond in some situation, or something about yourself, or learning a new skill or ability) –
if you could learn anything using pheromones, what would you like to learn?
The ToGo’s are a good place to start to gain some familiarity. A314 can be tricky. I might be good for you, but no rush.
Primal Instinct is a very strong androstenone product, and can easily backfire on you. I’d personally avoid it until you get some experience, and even then I’d opt for the Androtics version (Raw Power). I’ve got PI myself and have found it not all that useful for what I want to do. A more “massaged” mix like Turn Up the Heat/Ammunition etc may be a better starting place.
One very important thing: pheromone effects can be very subtle and hard to identify. It may take you a while to see any. Some do hit you in the face, others creep up on you. Start low and slow.
thanks for the help guys! as for MarkL’s questions
I have always been a very observant person (being quiet helps) and been interested in behaviour and language, etc.Thats why these products intrigue me, I am looking to experiment and see just what does actually happen with various effects, therefore, there isn’t really one true ‘objective’ I have.
I notice that in most cases you guys don’t recommend A314 with younger folks, however would it sitll be a bad thing for a person such as myself. Being shy and quiet I am often overlooked and conversation usually heads towards someone or something else.
With all that being said, I am still leaning towards just purchasing a to-go size of each prodcut.
A314 would probably be worse for shyer guys. It can make the wearer feel more assertive, but the overly serious tone of A314 can be more of a social hinderance in more laid-back, youthful environments. Truthfully in the wrong context, A314 can actually make you feel overlooked…and it really sucks. I think for you, the social pheromones are right up your alley. I would highly recommmend Instant Openness, paired up with Instant Shine. It will make you feel more socially upbeat and assertive, and make people more socially receptive to you. For something with a bit more masculine, sexual spunk, you really can’t go wrong with ammunition.
I am going to add in that I am a paraplegic and use a wheelchair. I failed to mention this at first becsaues i didn’t think it would make a difference. But the more i think of it, it really does. When i said overlooked I dont know if i really used the best word or not. It’s kind of hard to explain, but being in a wheelchair does have an effect on social relations (yes its the sad truth), and people will gladly hear what i have to say, but don’t necessarily take it to FULL consideration if that makes any sense.
From subtle things like people being over apologetic/nice, to situations like the fact that a lot of females will be less likely to initiate any kind of conversation or relationsihp past the small talk or casual friend stage. Or just if people are talking about doing something crazy, or talking about drugs or anything really that strays away from “innocent” (I am 20 and do enjoy partying hard! and my friends are more on the wild side of things too) they will likely not include me. This is of course aside from my friends who already know I am down for anything.
From my experinces all of my females relationships that have gone further than the friend stage have been with girls that I got to know for a while, which allowed them to realize that I have a normal if not more than average social depth, also that i’m just as much of a horndog as the rest of guys out there! LOL!
NOW… having rambled on for a bit (sorry i tend to do it), and i really don’t mean to try to argue your response to my A314 question, Sigma. But wouldn’t a little bit of A314 help me out in terms of gaining more respect, and being looked at towards more of a man, with valid things to say/do, rather than just ‘that guy in the wheelchair’?
My guess is YES, it would extend you a little more “social gravity” and respect.
BUT why take our guesses into your calculations? The only way to ~know~ is to experiment. Because even if we’re fairly certain one way or the other, you are uniquely you, your pherosignature is uniquely yours – and what might work or not work for most isn’t important when it comes to what works for you…
The A314 whitecap mutant is a bargain – it’s what I use; or you can try the MXnnn (102?) spray version of A314 in a trial size. Or pop for the full classic version – and remember the Androtics money-back guarantee only applies to the consumer (classic) version; you risk some shipping costs if you think it stinks …
no need to apologize. you have to realize that whatever advice anyone here gives is purely speculative. Our own advice is based on our own experience, and different people have different experiences. It isn’t necessarily concrete. My responses are simply a statement of opinion, not fact…so yeah you’re welcome to argue any point made
I won’t pretend to understand the nature of your social interactions, but A314 can help you gain more respect, and be taken more seriously than you normally would. This is why I absolutely ‘heart’ A314 for work. As the youngest guy in the office, and as the only person there still in college, I’m very much a little fish in a very big pond. I lack the degree’s, the licenses and designations, and just the experience of other people there. The added respect and downright credibility that A314 instills is very much a welcome thing around the work place. And often times, I feel like I command an unwarranted amount of respect, and its kinda creepy lol. not to discount myself or anything, but I’m still very much in a learning stage of my career.
How well this applies to your social interactions, there’s no way I could know.
You’ll find with any pheromone or pheromone product, there are a number of good attributes, and a number of bad attributes associated with it. Some times a good attribute in one situation, might actually be a bad one another. In the case of A314…it can set you above others, make you appear wiser, more serious, and assertive, more alpha. Socially being more assertive, and more alpha certainly helps, but appearing more serious and wiser (better) can make you feel like a fish out of water at times too. It all depends on what works for you, and the only way to really figure that out, is to experiment for yourself (as Mark so wisely suggested).
thanks sigma, sounds like A314 is doing great for you at work . I did order some along with my to go’s. so hopefully i have some success either with it, or by finding a good mix.
Good luck with it. Since you’re young, I’d use it in conjunction with some of the more social mones to liven it up. Start with a small amount, and move up as you see fit.
