Blazin a Trail Through Pheroland

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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Hey Pherotalk community, and welcome to my journal!

Introduction

I’m really excited to be a part of this community and look forward to sharing all my pheromone-filled adventures with you guys!

A bit about myself:

  • Age: 20
  • University student
  • Location: Major city in Canada

Purposes for Pheromones:

  • Help advance my new career
  • Have better all-around success with women
  • To aid in acquiring this specific girl. To be honest this was my original purpose, but after reading about the several uses and capabilities of pheromones, I added a few more purposes to my list

My Partnership:

My buddy introduced me to this site and we decided to try them out together. We thought it would be a cool idea to try out different combinations on each other and experience different situations with these combinations.

For example, if I applied mostly -none products and he applied mostly -nol products, how would people react?

His username is Nigs, and his journal: https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/1

My stash:

For now I have ordered the following:

Full bottle: AMMO, IO, IS, A314
Togo: TUTH, IJ, MX422 (came as a freebie, thanks AD!)

Nigs has what I have plus IH, so I would be able to use that if needed.

Structure of Reports

I have been reading through many journals, and I love the very thorough approach that many of you have taken (eg. Oasis314’s, 1Alpha’s, P51Mustangs’s journal) so I hope you don’t mind me copying you guys!

  1. Purpose
  2. Pheromones used - which, how much and where
  3. Environment/Location
  4. What I was wearing - I think this is important as it could have a large effect on the way others perceive you
  5. Self effects
  6. Effects on others
  7. Analysis - Included in the analysis:
  • Exposure: Comments on distance and how long people were exposed to my mones in order to get a reaction
  • Congruence: How congruent I was with the pheromones I was wearing, and any comments on the effect it may have had

Conclusion

Thanks for stopping by and happy reading! Please shoot me a PM for feedback, suggestions, questions, etc.

Nigs' Chronicles:Pursuit of Perfection
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Date: November 13, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Losing my Phero-ginity.

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much and where

  • AMMO: X2 to wrists, then rubbed on jawline
  • IS: X2 to each side of neck
  • IH: X2 to each wrist

I was with Nigs, and he wore the same mix, same application points.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Around the mall, A/C building

  • In a normal family restaurant, for lunch. Heated building.

    1. What I was wearing
      Both of us wore standard casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects
      Lightheaded immediately after. Really calm, relaxed and focused after. I was very focused on any conversation I was in.

The smell was a lot stronger in warmer, humid locations. Ie. a crowded store.

I also still smell it as I am typing this, about 9-10 hrs after application.

  1. Exposure
    Hard to tell at this point.

  2. Effects on others
    Now onto the good stuff.

So me and Nigs applied the stuff at the mall, and walked around the mall so the smell would die down. I felt kind of lightheaded, but I’m pretty sure it’s because I’m not used to wearing cologne, so I guess the smell got to me. We did not really notice any blatant hits, so we decided to eat lunch at a nearby family restaurant.

At the restaurant, we were seated by a decent looking waitress. We definitely noticed an IOI from her directed to me, in the form of a very prolonged look, even after seating us. After we ate and was about to leave, we decided to stir the pot a bit and try something a bit fun to gauge some reactions…

We stopped by the welcome stand at the front doors where there were three waitresses. Nigs told them that he made a cologne for me that I do not like. We needed their opinions on if it smells good or not, and we placed a bet on their answer. They seemed slightly weirded-out by the request, as it is unusual I guess. So I let them smell my wrist (where AMMO and IH were directly applied) and they immediately and noticeably perked up, became chattier, happier, giggling constantly and very fixated on me for the remainder of our conversation. They said it smelled really good, despite my claims that I think it’s too soapy (bs :stuck_out_tongue:).

We went back to the mall, walked around a bit, talked etc. As we were not seeing much reactions from anyone, we figured that we had to initiate conversations with people to get reactions. Nigs got the following idea: We walk into various female clothing stores and engage with the store employees, asking their help with finding a sweater for his gf.

Walked into the first store (it was pretty large) and asked a blonde European employee in her early 20’s for help. Nigs initiated and she showed us a few sweaters, but we noticed she showed very little interest in Nigs (little to no eye contact). She did, however, talk to me even though I only said a few words and she showed a few IOI’s. She told us to go upstairs as there are more sweaters. We went upstairs and I initiated this time (using the same story) to an asian employee in her early 20’s. She handed us off to another asian employee and she helped us. Did not notice anything out of the ordinary from either.

Next store we went to was a smaller store, semi-upscale and crowded/humid. Nigs initiated to a very attractive employee, unsure of race but she was in her early 20’s. She was very fixated on Nigs as he explained the situation and she showed us a bunch of sweaters and “sexy” tank tops (as she put it, lol). She was very cheerful and helpful, a lot more with us than other people. We noticed this as we were watching her help other people while we waited for her to free up. So she left and we continued to “search” for sweaters, but she (quickly) returned about three more times to talk with us and to show us random articles of clothing that she thought might be suitable. It was definitely out of the ordinary for an employee to be that helpful and it was a first for me and Nigs.

Next store, a more larger, “discount” store, Nigs initiated to two asian employees in their early 20’s. He was standing close to one, and I was standing behind the other. I personally did not notice anything out of the ordinary, but according to Nigs, the one I was standing behind was constantly looking at me and was fixated on me as we walked away.

The last store was probably the most blatant. We went to a more expensive and upscale store than the other ones, it was very crowded and humid. Nigs initiated to a South-west asian girl in her early 20’s (man, it was early 20’s employee day at the mall, lol). She was VERY helpful, cheerful and chatty and took us on a long tour of the entire store, picking out several clothes, talking with us and joking around. After about 15 minutes with her, she said for us to take a look and she’ll check up on us after. A few other employees came up to us and tried to help us, seemed like one of them really made an effort to talk with us. After a bit, the original employee returned to talk with us again. At one point she got a good whiff of the mones on me, and immediately (but for a short while) after she was staring at me a lot while talking. So we eventually left, and amazed that she was so helpful and cheerful around us.

  1. Analysis
    Long post! This was my first time wearing mones so I felt like explaining every detail. Don’t worry, my future posts won’t be that long.

First a few things I noticed or learned:

  • Although we noticed we were very focused on our conversations with each other, we were not really that deep in our conversations. Did the IH not exactly work as expected, since we know we are wearing it?
  • All the stores we visited were actually very very busy, so we can’t attribute some of the employee’s super helpfulness to boredom or what not. It could be the mones :cool: Also, usually males in a female clothing store looking around might get negative reaction from employees, so it was interesting to see that this was not the case.
  • Pretty much every time we had to initiate in order to see a noticeable reaction.
  • If a girl got a direct smell of the mones, the effects were very noticeable. They had to go into my “bubble” to strongly feel the effects.
  • The two employees that were exceptionally helpful were in the smaller, more crowded and humid stores. Maybe the additional strength of the mones played a part in their helpfulness.

Nigs will probably post what we experienced in his own journal, it’ll be interesting to see what he noticed from his perspective.

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Good start on the journal! I love how you and your buddy are both helping each other out. I just know that you two have some interesting experiences coming. Now if only I can find a buddy to share this with.. Anyways, Ill be checking up on both you and Nigs’ entries regularly. Good luck with the testing!

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Thanks Dub! I look forward to hearing some feedback from you.

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Date: November 14 , 2011

  1. Purpose
    Solo sweet spot testing - IO

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IO: X1 to the wrists and rubbed a bit on the jawline

Applied at around 7am.

  1. Environment/Location
    At my workplace. It’s a climate-controlled office building, but I work in the lab mostly which is a very cold, A/C room.

  2. What I was wearing
    Standard casual clothing.

  3. Self Effects
    None. The smell was a lot milder and harder to smell than the last application. I assume this is due to the lower dosage and colder environment.

  4. Exposure
    Effects only seemed to happen when someone was very near me, and exposed for a short while.

  5. Effects on others
    No noticeable effects during my bus ride there and during the morning staff meeting which I attended.

As I was working, at around 10-11am (3-4 hours after application), my boss came in and started doing some work. We made small talk about the weekend and then he eventually sat down in the extra chair that was at my desk. After we tried to fix a phone together, he started to teach me about the entire mobile network infrastructure. This talk was not really work critical (although it was interesting and relevant) and took about half an hour. During the whole conversation I tried to naturally bring my wrists closer to him so I could get a reaction.

Throughout the whole day, I noticed he was a lot more chattier, made more jokes, etc.

Today was a pretty quiet day so he was the only person I really had close contact with.

  1. Analysis
    It was definitely interesting how my boss spent half an hour talking about something that was not really needed for the tasks at hand. He’s the type that is very efficient: quickly runs in, does the job, runs out and starts a new task. Not the type to spend a lot of time on something that is not mission-critical. However, when I was still new he would give me similar long talks, but hasn’t for at least a couple of months.

I am still hesitant to claim that the mones caused his chattier behavior, but it is possible.

I think I am going to go straight to two sprays tomorrow.

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Date: November 15, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IO

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IO: X2 to each wrist and then rubbed on jawline

Applied at around 7am.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Bus: Kind of cold, dry with slight drafts

  • Office building, mostly in a cold, A/C room

    1. What I was wearing
      Normal casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects
      None, although I do like the smell.

    3. Effects on others
      On my way to work at around 8am (1 hour after application) I received a hit from a girl I was sitting beside. I was sleeping the whole time (so I might have missed previous IOI’s) until she woke me up. She gave me a huge smile and locked eyes for a what seemed like a couple of seconds, then she signaled that she was getting off the bus so I can move (because I was blocking her way). I rarely receive that sort of interest on the bus.

At work I had a few conversations with people I already know well and are naturally somewhat chatty, so I did not see anything out of the ordinary.

  1. Analysis
  • Exposure: Hard to comment, though the girl sitting beside me was sitting there for about 30 minutes (it’s a long bus ride) until I received the hit. Otherwise there is not much to analyze today.
  • Congruence: Naturally I do not look very approachable in public, unless I am in an exceptionally good mood or with certain people. So one thing I can work on is being more congruent with IO, and then I might see better results. However at work I am a lot friendlier so I will just have to play around a bit more to see some more reactions.

The IO could have played a part in receiving he hit, as it seems like I am usually too unapproachable to get hits while in public.

So I’m just going to continue with my IO sweet spot testing for the rest of the week, eventually upping the dosage to 3 sprays. However tomorrow is a big day, so I plan to change things up a bit.

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Date: November 16, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IO, with an added twist of IS

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IO: X2 - on wrists
  • IS: X3 - X1 on wrists, X2 on each side of the neck

Applied around 7am.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Skytrain (the monorail system here): Crowded, slightly warm

  • Office building, climate controlled and in a cold A/C lab

    1. What I was wearing
      Business casual.

    2. Self Effects
      Calm, content and relaxed. The mones might not be causing this, but it was however similar to the feelings I had last time I wore IS.

    3. Effects on others
      I’ll start off by explaining why I added the IS today. I was supposed to give a demonstration of a system I maintain, so I decided to keep with my sweet spot testing and add a bit of IS to hopefully get some positive reactions :slight_smile:

On my way to work on the Skytrain, I got a couple smiles and frequent looks from a couple women in their early 20’s. One of them kept on looking and tried to turn my way many times without making it obvious. However, these “hits” seemed a bit off and not conclusive, I will not count them as hits.

When I arrived at work, I had a few 1-on-1 conversations with a few coworkers earlier in the day - so the mones should still be “active”. I must say that these conversations were very pleasant, lengthy and definitely more enjoyable than usual, for both of us.

I was helping out someone who works in the same office, but a different company. This person I see around the office all the time, but we have never talked and all we’ve done is give each other acknowledging nods. As I was helping him, we had a great discussion and he seemed very friendly.

My boss was also very chatty again today. We talked for quite a bit today and gave me a few more of off-topic informational talks. This was unusual again as if you read my previous posts, this is the same boss that is usually too busy to give these sorts of talks anymore.

Unfortunately, given the conditions, I ended up not giving that demo.:frowning: I was really excited to see what responses I would get.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: All “hits” and conversations I had very within a close range.

- Congruence: As I have mentioned before, I have a problem with being congruent with IO. Although this is not exactly the case at work since I am friendlier than if I am in public, but I can still feel that IS helped me be friendlier so that IO could possibly be more effective.

I did definitely notice a difference in the way people interact with me than when I was just wearing IO or nothing at all. Now I am wondering if this is because of just the IS? Or did the combination of IS and IO really cause it? Of course I will do more testing, but I can see that maybe this is a very good combination for enhancing general conversations, with people you know already or not.

I will hopefully have a clearer picture after I do my IS sweet spot testing next week :slight_smile:

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Date: November 17, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IO

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IO: X3 - X2 on top side of wrists, X1 on back of the neck

Applied around 7am.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Slightly cool and drafty bus

  • Office building, in an A/C lab

    1. What I was wearing
      Casual clothes.

    2. Self Effects
      No noticeable effects.

    3. Effects on others
      Unfortunately not much to report today…

On the way to work I got a hit from the same girl on the bus as a few days ago. She gave me another big smile and stare when she was getting off the bus.

At work, nothing happened that was out of the ordinary. I had a few conversations and met a few coworkers but I did not notice anything different.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: Nothing to note on.
    - Congruence: Nothing to note on, but I still did not make a huge effort to be completely congruent with IO.

The problem is that some days it is very slow in the morning and I am in the lab by myself doing work. When things pick up in the afternoon and I am out and about working with others, but by then the pheromones kind of wore off. I am considering on applying it mid-day, but I am slightly worried about it being weird if I go from no scent to strong cologne scent during the day.

Also I applied on the top of the wrists which although may work to some extent, I noticed that the smell was barely noticeable. I have been applying the same amount to the underside of my wrist and the smell is a lot more noticeable so I can assume that it diffuses better?

At this point I was thinking that small amounts of IO alone is not enough to get any noticeable reactions. IO does not seem to be a very effective stand alone product (in small doses) and needs to be mixed to really bring out positive reactions. These are just hunches as I am comparing to the day before when I mixed IO and IS, so I decided to try to mix with a bit of AMMO the next day.

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BLAZIN YOU’RE KILLING ME, ASK FOR HER NUMBER PLZ BRO! Do it so I can sleep at night!

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Date: November 18, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IO, with some AMMO mixing

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IO: X3 - X2 on wrists, X1 on back of the neck
  • AMMO: X1.5 - below adam’s apple

Applied around 7am.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Office building, cold A/C lab

    1. What I was wearing
      Slightly fancier casual clothes.

    2. Self Effects
      No noticeable effects, though I do really like the smell AMMO. I noticed that the smell became pretty soapy as the day progressed.

    3. Effects on others
      Throughout the day I had a few good conversations with coworkers, but I cannot completely attribute that to the mones.

The most note worthy reaction I got was from a female coworker. She is in her mid to late 20’s and is a pretty good friend of mine, I like her a lot. She came into the lab and bent over me to drop something off onto my desk. She came within my “bubble” (so she definitely got a good smell of the AMMO) and immediately pulled away and gave me a deer in the headlights look. I was talking as she gave me that look and I was pretty surprised as to how obvious it was, so my talking became pretty slow :stuck_out_tongue: She eventually smiled then we continued conversation normally.

We had to set up for an event that is happening soon, so I was working with her on that in the late afternoon. Throughout, she did seem closer to me, figuratively and literally. It is hard to explain but she gave me frequent looks and cared more about me and the fact that I had to be dragged to do this dirty work with her. She would say things like “Awwww I’m REALLY sorry to have to ask your help with this” and she said it way more than enough times :slight_smile:. Though, she naturally very friendly so she has always been like that, but just seemed more obvious and frequent that afternoon.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: It seems like anyone effected had to be near me, within standard 1-on-1 conversation distance. In the case of my female coworker, I got the noticeable look when she leaned in within a foot or two from my AMMO application point.
    - Congruence: No huge effort to be congruent, though I did feel that I was more approachable and friendlier than usual.

So that concludes my initial week of IO sweet spot testing! Although I did not fully determine my sweet spot for IO, I did figure out a thing or two about how IO and pheromones in general work.

Once again, it seems like IO needs to be mixed with something to get a noticeable effect. I will need to test AMMO separately so I can determine the differences in what the AMMO or IO might have caused.

The smell of IO has definitely decreased for me, as in I don’t notice it as much. At the beginning of the week when I applied one or two sprays, it definitely felt stronger than when I applied two or more sprays near the end of the week. As I am still in the same climate-controlled office building where the temperature/humidity most likely did not change, could this be because I became accustomed to the scent? Maybe some crazy scientific stuff happened, such as my phero-signiture adjusted to the phermones found in IO, therefore decreasing the noticeable scent? :stuck_out_tongue: I’m not sure it is something I will have to experience with the other products I own when I do their individual sweet spot testing in the coming weeks.

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LOL SORRY NIGS. I will ask for her number next time I see her and I will make sure to tell her that THIS ONE IS SO NIGS CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT!

Speaking of which, go to sleep we got a big day tomorrow.

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A Day Without Pheromones…

This post will be about the first day I went without any mones on, since starting to wear them last weekend. Throughout the day I also noticed the difference in the way I acted, and how it could effect any reaction I receive with or without mones.

Yesterday I had to go to a friends house and had dinner with another friend, so I saw no need for mones. Although I did not see any differences in the way my friends acted, but when i was out in public and at various stores, there was a huge difference!

It was back to normal, the “before I wore mones” normal. After a week of various mones on, people were a lot nicer and took notice of me. For example, on the bus, people are generally minding their own business and not paying attention to other passengers. This was the way it was without mones. With mones, there were a lot more subtle looks and smiles, from many people who came near me. You do not really notice it until you go back to normal!

Besides the fact that the mones may be causing this, I believe there are intentional by-products that also illicit positive reactions.

You are more alert and conscious of your surroundings

Im sure all of you agree, but when youre wearing mones, you are most likely more aware of your surroundings, mainly so you can find signs that the mones are causing. The signs may be happening regardless, but you are actually noticing now because you are making more of an effort to look for them.

Congruence alone may be enough

This one is tied with the previous one. Although I admit that I did not make an exhaustive effort to be congruent, I still made a slight effort to seem more approachable and alert (to look for reactions). Based on some of the minute reactions I received, this congruence alone may have caused them. I can explain my thoughts better with an example using A314. Let’s say you place A314 on yourself and make a considerable effort to be congruent - You act like you are an alpha male who naturally demands respect. Right? Any hits or respect you receive may just be because of the way YOU acted and has nothing to do with the A314 you wore.

To sum up these two points, if we were actually applying merely just scented water, we would still make the conscious effort to be more alert, aware of your surroundings and congruent. These alone could cause positive reactions which we falsely attribute to mones - making the mones a placebo.

Please dont get me wrong, I am not doubting the legitimacy of mones. Things have happened to me this week that is very hard for me to claim that mones had zero effect on. I believe by playing devils advocate, when mones truly proves itself, it will be x100 more worthy than if I just blindly believed in it from the beginning.

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A Week in Review

Once in awhile I plan to go through my recent journal entries, reviewing what I have learnt and going through what i have written in the analysis section in those entries. These posts will serve as a summary and a one-stop place for information/reference for others but for mostly myself.

What I have learnt this past week:

  • Pretty much every time we had to initiate in order to see a noticeable reaction - with the AMMO, IS and IH mix.
  • If a girl got a direct smell of the mones, the effects were very noticeable. They had to go into my “bubble” to strongly feel the effects.
  • Pheromones diffuse a hell of a lot better in warm, humid environments. I eventually should adjust dosages based on the expected temperature and humidity.
  • IS and IO seems to be a very effective mix for general socializing.
  • For now, just spray mones on the underside of my wrist, instead of the top.
  • Standalone IO in small amounts will not give you blatant positive reactions.
  • IO mixed with AMMO also seems to be an effective mix, I will have to do further testing to be able to differentiate between reactions caused by IO or AMMO.
  • Just the fact that you are alert, aware of your surroundings and congruent when wearing mones, could cause positive reactions irrevalent to the mones themselves. More information about this one in the previous post.

Also me and Nigs talked often throughout the week regarding what we wore, what reactions we received and analyzing the reactions, the mixes, etc. We determined that there are bases and tuners when it comes to the consumer line products. This may not be a new concept but it is something we realized so I will explain.

Bases

Products that can act as a standalone and contributes the most to your phero-signiture and the way others perceive you. Although me and Nigs have only tried AMMO, one of the bases, we compiled this list based off of what other people say:

AMMO
A314
TUTH
IG
IJ (not sure if this is a base or tuner yet)

Tuners

These products are not incredibly effective as a standalone, in small doses. By themselves they may have subtle effects but it seems to be more effective as an enhancer to a base product. This is our current list of tuners:

IS
IO
IH

The reason why we believe this base/tuner theory is because I barely saw any noticeable reactions the days I just wore IO. But when mixed with something else, IO’s supposed effects (people more comfortable around you, chattier etc.) seemed more apparent.

Also take a look at nigs’ journal because he explained it exceptionally well. Keep in mind this is just the way it appears to us and we may be completely wrong, so I would like opinions on this!

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Date: November 20, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Dual testing - Attraction Mix

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • TUTH (YES, TUTH lol): X1 below adam’s apple
  • IS: X3 - X2 on wrists, X1 on left side of the neck
  • IO: X3 - X2 on wrists, X1 on right side of the neck

Nigs used the same mix on the same application points.

We applied this around 10:30am.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Mall, in stores with varying temperature/humidity. On average the stores were slightly warm but not crowded, all were semi-upscale stores.

  • Family restaurant, heated

    1. What I was wearing
      Standard casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects

  • No immediate effects.

  • About an hour in +, Nigs and I were pretty damn happy and having a blast. We usually do when we hang out, but it was A LOT more than last time with the AMMO, IS and IH mix.

  • Eventually I felt pretty confident and without an effort it was easy to be congruent and portray the Alpha-male image. At one point me and Nigs decided to be even more Alpha-male type and I don’t know about Nigs but for me to become a super Alpha-male it was as easy as flipping a switch!! It is usually never like that for me.

    1. Effects on others
      Nigs recalls the events very well and pretty comically in his journal, you should check it out: Nigs' Chronicles:Pursuit of Perfection :slight_smile:

We met at the mall and applied the mones. After walking around a bit to let the scent settle in, we went to the same restaurant as last week. The same waitress/seater was there as last time (that gave me the IOI’s) and guess what she did this time? Once again, huge IOI’s directed towards me, to the point where it was extremely obvious. She let us choose a seat and we sat down.

Luckily, we had a female this time, so Nigs and I were pretty excited to see what reactions we would get. When she got to us it was as if she hit a brick wall! She was super nervous, barely made any eye contact, quick conversation, hardly any smiling, etc. Throughout our stay there, she would quickly run in and do the standard waitress stuff (ie. refilling water, asking how our meals are, etc.) When she walked over to say something, she would be incredibly rushed and would basically be already leaving before we even answered her question. Also, she was not usually like that, as we were able to establish a base-line. We kind of watched her interact with other tables and it was pretty normal - smiling, having normal conversations, eye contact, etc.

After this, Nigs and I kind of got the hint that this is a potentially “dangerous” mix…

We decided to do the same activity as last week, where we go to various women’s clothing stores and ask for help finding a sweater for his girl.

First store we went to was fairly empty and slightly warm. We pretended to look around a bit then eventually asked help from an asian employee, early to mid 20’s. She was pretty unhelpful, generally avoided eye contact and showed discomfort. I warmed her up with a joke and a smile and she IMMEDIATELY opened up, gave eye contact, IOI’s and was a lot more helpful. After looking around a bit more in that store we walked out telling ourselves “Whaaaaaaat just happend there…”

However, we had a good thing going before that store with the whole Alpha-male congruence and I felt that we let it slip in that store. So we decided to go all out and try to be super alpha for the next stores.

At the next shop, a caucasian female employee in her very early 20’s approached us and tried to help. She was very helpful, friendly and did not seem to be intimidated at all. She handed us over to another employee (asian and in her early 20’s) because it was her first day and she did not know how to help. We explained the “situation” to the other employee and she seemed VERY nervous, intimidated, unhelpful, uncomfortable, ZERO eye contact and I got the sense that she really wanted to run away.. After helping us a bit, Nigs lightened up the mood and she made a FULL 180. She was completely open, smiling, tons of eye contact, asking personal questions, seemed to be able to think properly and gave us good suggestions.

The next store was very interesting. I will start by saying that for some reason, we noticed that the mones diffused very well as the smell was a lot stronger than it was at the other stores. Also, we told each other to be really Alpha and DO NOT break the barrier early, to see if it will be consistent to what we witnessed at the other stores. We walked around for a bit and no one came to help us so Nigs approached the cashiers to give his opening. He opened to a group of employees and they initially did not take too much notice. He was mainly speaking with a manager-type (late 20’s), and as he was talking she gave him the WORST look I have seen from a person in a long time. I swear I was thinking “WOW what a stone cold b*tch” lol :slight_smile: She called for an employee to help us and we actually had to wait for awhile for someone to arrive. It was interesting because there seemed to be a few in the area that were not doing anything.

Eventually an employee (asian, early 20’s) came to help us and Nigs gave his spiel. She quite literally ran away mumbling “She has to think” and started to put away some clothes she was holding. It really did seem like an excuse to get away from us. She eventually returned briefly and very uncomfortably ran around the store looking for sweaters for us. She would not talk with us and barely made eye contact, which really confused us as we followed her around the store (as she was literally running away from us) and had NO IDEA what she was actually doing. We literally told each other “Wtf is going on here this is BS” After a little while I decided that we let this go on for long enough, so I tried to break the barrier by smiling a lot and cracking a few jokes. BOOM! ANOTHER COMPLETE 180. She immediately opened up to us, smiled more, joked around with us, gave actually useful suggestions and huge IOI’s. At one point she very excitedly ran to get us one of her “favourite” sweaters that she thinks we would like. Interestingly enough, we basically passed by those same sweaters when she was “running away” from us before. After a few more jokes, smiles etc. we departed from that store.

  1. Analysis
    Incredibly interesting! It was crazy to see how much women can be effected and how quick they can change their entire demeanor just from a small change on our part.

- Exposure: Everyone we noticed reactions from were generally within a few feet.
- Congruence: We were mostly congruent with the “Sexy, Alpha-male” image that we expect from a small dose of TUTH. When we decided to break the barrier, we were very congruent with the IS and IO part of the mix.

This mix is very intimidating, the AMMO mix we tried last week was A LOT friendlier. I felt that the AMMO mix was a lot smoother in progressing the comfort levels with the employees we interacted with. This mix remained in the uncomfortable/intimidated level indefinitely until we broke the barrier then they IMMEDIATELY shot up in comfort.

Nigs commented on how we noticed most of the women either had the flight or fight mode. The normal ones may try the flight option by running away, whereas possible Alpha-females (the manager witch) would choose the fight option. It is an interesting concept which I would want to look into later.

I do really like this mix, it makes things VERY interesting. I do really want to play around with it a bit, ie. lowering the TUTH dosage, increasing the IO/IS dosage, adding IH, etc. I can imagine this mix would work will in different environments, maybe it was not the best to use at the mall :stuck_out_tongue:. I also plan to use a similar mix in different environments to see what reactions I get.

15

Date: November 21, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Social Mix testing.

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied
    I applied mones twice today:

First time at 7am:

  • IS: X2 on each side of the neck
  • IO: X2 on wrists
  • IH: X1 on wrists

Second time at 10am:

  • IS: X1 on front of the neck
  • IO: X1 on wrists
  • IH: X2 on wrists

To make a grand total of:

  • IS: X3 around the neck

  • IO: X3 on wrists

  • IH: X3 on wrists

    1. Environment/Location

  • Office building, climate controlled

  • A/C lab, though it seemed a lot warmer today than usual

    1. What I was wearing
      Business casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects

  • No noticeable effects after first application

  • Immediately felt happier after the second application. This made me naturally friendlier and more approachable

  • As the day progressed, I became happier and happier which literally made me feel INVINCIBLE and like A MILLION DOLLARS! I was incredibly joyful and made everyone I interacted with joyful as well. I seriously cannot remember a time I was this happy in the recent past.

    1. Effects on others
      Today I decided to apply this mix as it was a big day at the office today - A big name politician was coming over to give a press conference. I was hoping to chat up said politician with this amazing mix :cool:.

I applied the mones two separate times, because I had a staff meeting in the morning so I was worried that the scent would be too strong.

I did not notice any reactions until I put on the second application. I went to the bathroom on the main floor of the office building, so I would not run into anyone I knew while applying the second dose of mones… lol. Literally RIGHT after leaving the bathroom, a complete stranger (female, around 40 years old) gave me a huge smile and said “Good Morning!!” I was seriously taken off guard because that rarely happens to me.

At this point I finally started feeling the proclaimed “happiness” self-effects that IS (or even IO and IH for that matter) supposedly provides.

Went back upstairs and continued my work. I had a few 1-on-1 conversations with certain people (a close coworker, normal coworkers and another person in the office I have only talked to once before) and I noticed the following with each and every conversation:

They initiated
We were both very joyful and genuinely seemed to have fun
Most talked more than usual
We talked as if we knew each other better than we actually did

It was simply amazing. When I look back, I am not exaggerating AT ALL, all the conversations I had went incredibly well in the ways I just explained.

I had to discuss some work related stuff with my female coworker, the one I have mentioned in a previous post. She came over to my desk in the lab and as we were having our conversation, I noticed she was very happy, open, very chatty, smiling, displaying frequent IOI’s and the conversation dragged on for an hour+ until we were cut short due to the politician arriving. We decided to continue our discussion after the politician left.

I received a call from her during the press conference and she was complaining about how shes stuck at her desk because she had to watch over the politicians belongings (which were left by her desk). The phone conversation quickly turned to other topics, and she basically just kept rambling on and on. Eventually she called me over to her desk and we continued talking about random topics, waiting for the press conference to finish. Throughout these conversations with her, I definitely noticed that she was considerably more chatty, happy, smiling and displayed more IOI’s than usual.

We were discussing how we should form an “entourage” as we were jealous how the politician had a huge entourage, and we wanted to feel special as well lol :slight_smile: We continued discussing this serious matter until the press conference ended, then the politician left in a hurry. Unfortunately I did not get a chance to meet her because she was in and out in a huge hurry and was not even in the office for more than an hour.

For the remainder of the day, I was still incredibly happy and had lengthy and enjoyable conversations with other people in the office, even a couple with people I have never talked to before. I frequently met with my female coworker as part of some work we had to do (we work closely together) but we quickly became sidetracked and started recruiting members for our “entourage”. I had a blast doing this and I could tell she did too. Throughout our conversations with “potential recruits” she was displaying IOI’s directed at me in the form of prolonged deep stares, smiles, personal space invasions, mirroring etc.

It was a great day, we probably spent about 4 hours together. This is great for me as I really enjoy being around her, it’s always a party :slight_smile: Also don’t worry, with all the chaos with the press conference happening there was not too much work for us to do anyways.

When leaving for home, I decided (just for fun) to initiate a conversation with the other guy on the elevator. It turned into a decent conversation and he immediately opened up to me. Even after exiting the elevator, he looked back at me as if he wanted to talk again, and we ended up quickly talking again before leaving the office building.

  1. Analysis
    Throughout most of the day and even after 5pm, I felt like a completely socially-adept superstar!

- Exposure: The area effect seems to be the largest I’ve seen yet since wearing mones. I attribute this to the self effects and my congruence. If people are already opening up to me before I even approach them, can I attribute that to mones or the fact that I am displaying a super happy/approachable vibe?
- Congruence: I was incredibly congruent with the mones I was wearing, but only after the second dose.

With regards to the way my female coworker was acting, she is normally a very joyful, happy and outgoing person. Just today it seemed WAY beyond her normal levels so I know that something about me (mones and/or self effects) were causing this.

I believe my congruence played a HUGE part in the way people interacted with me. If I am still feeling “effects” at 5-6pm, which is 7+ hrs after my second application, could I still attribute it to the mones?

My theory is that the mones gave me the momentum to this Superstar Feeling earlier in the day and with the several positive reactions I was receiving, it just fueled this feeling.

I believe I just described my feelings today very well: I like to call it the Superstar Feeling.

Seriously speaking, I would love to wear this mix EVERY DAY!

By the way, I was speaking to Nigs today and I claimed that I have a very strong suspicion that if we were to go out to meet and talk to random women (ie. store employees like we did the previous times) with this mix, we would receive x10 more hits and IOI’s than with a -none based mix. Maybe this is something we can try in the near future!

16

Date: November 22, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IS

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IS: X2 - X1 on wrists, X1 on adam’s apple

    1. Environment/Location]
      -Office building, climate controlled
      -A/C Lab, was again warmer than usual

    2. What I was wearing
      Standard casual clothes.

    3. Self Effects

  • Felt more calm and relaxed immediately after application

  • Felt pretty sleepy/tired but still pretty happy and content through to mid-day

    1. Effects on others
      I woke up early in the morning to find out our power went out in the middle of the night. It was expected to come back about 7 hours later, which normally wouldn’t be a be problem. However, I have a reef aquarium where extended power outages like that, coupled with the coldness here could kill all my livestock. I was pretty panicky and stressed as I made my morning preparations to save what I can, plus I had to leave for work. Once I sprayed on the IS I found that I was very calm and relaxed. My whole mood changed almost instantly.

At work, I had to help my female coworker (the one I spent a lot of time with the day before) with some stuff that took the whole morning. I found that she acted COMPLETELY different, around me she was a lot more calm, spoke softer, teased me more, seemed “closer”, would linger around me, stare/smile for no reason, display other IOI’s, etc. She seemed more seductive in my opinion :slight_smile: I know her pretty well by now so it was easy to tell when her personality changed so drastically around me.

Throughout the day I spoke with various people, including coworkers and other people around the office I am not too familiar with. Once again, the conversations were very pleasant, friendlier and more enjoyable. Many of these conversations were initiated by others but I found it was A LOT easier to initiate now. Although the feeling was not even close to what I felt the day before, I felt like a mini-superstar that people around the office wanted to talk to and was really friendly with.

Later in the day around 3pm I was approached by a stranger (female, probably around 40 yrs old) in the office that I have seen around for months but I have never talked to or even noticed by before. She wanted help with her computer because it wasn’t printing (one of my tasks is to provide IT support). As I was helping her, I noticed she was really friendly with me, talking about irrelevant topics, personal space invasions and she kept on pushing to get my e-mail so she could “ask for my help directly” next time. Again it was unusual for someone to be so friendly, considering she has never acknowledged my presence before.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: Saw differences in people almost immediately after approaching me, stronger effects if near me for an extended time.
    - Congruence: I was pretty congruent I’d say with IS. I was generally pretty happy and I’m pretty sure it showed.

I have a few theories about the drastic change in my coworker’s behavior towards me:

  • She claimed she was tired so it could just be her acting tired and I’m slightly crazy :o
  • IS has strong effects on her, based on her differences in the two days I wore IS
  • Our time on Monday changed the way she views me, maybe more attracted towards me or something

Which brings up interesting points I will investigate further: Can just a few sprays of mones make drastic changes in the way people you already know think of you? Can just one day of heavy mones usage do the same?

I’m still unsure if IS is effecting others or is it just effecting myself. If it is purely just effecting myself, I can see my friendly, happy vibe causing these positive reactions.

When I think about it, does it even matter? IS is doing what is supposed to, so it’s methods should not concern me, right? Well regardless I would like to know IS really works because a) For science! and b) You can use a tool more effectively if you understand it better.

I plan to learn about IS better by playing around with the application points.

17

Date: November 23, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IS

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied

  • IS: X2 on each side of the neck

    1. Environment/Location

  • Office building, climate controlled

  • A/C lab, it’s back to its usual coldness again

    1. What I was wearing
      Standard casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects

  • Relaxed and calm throughout the day

  • Tired and sleepy, though I think that’s due to lack of sleep the night before

  • Very friendly and confident.

    1. Effects on others
      Another good day of IS testing!

Throughout the day I engaged in several good conversations, and everyone I spoke to seemed to be really close with me. Some of them I barely know and yet we end up having a lengthy and comfortable conversation.

Through talking, I realized I found it very easy to open up and initiate and had a pretty care-free attitude. I slowly realized that I am much more confident with IS so that perhaps that is the self effects I have been feeling.

Today, and in the days previously, I have noticed people are nicer to me in the elevator. I was opened with a joke by two older women while I was on the elevator, and the rest of the elevator joined in. Before the mones this has never happened in the 7 months I have been working here.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: Generally within 1-on-1 conversation distance, and the good effects seemed to happen quickly after meeting.
    - Congruence: Was generally happy and confident, and I’m sure it showed.

I think I’ve figured out how IS works on me, and why I’ve been getting such positive results. Although I noticed that it does make me kind of happy and relaxed, I believe the boost in confidence is the main factor at work here. I’m still not sure if IS itself has any effect on others, but I can see clearly that a boost in my own confidence is enough to see the differences.

This boost was more apparent to me when I spray in spots where I would get effected more (ie. on my neck instead of my wrists). So it seems in higher doses I go from happy/relaxed to confident.

The communication on the elevators could be due to exposure in a confined environment.

18

Date: November 24, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IS

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied
    Applied at 7am:

  • IS: X2 on each side of the neck

Applied at around 1pm:

  • IS: X1 on the front of the neck

    1. Environment/Location

  • Office building, climate controlled

  • A/C Lab

    1. What I was wearing
      Standard casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects

  • Calm and content, confident

  • Beyond that nothing out of the ordinary. I was pretty tired, did not get the chance to interact with many people around the office.

    1. Effects on others
      Nothing much to report on today.

Had a very long conversation with my female coworker, did not notice anything too different. It seemed as if she did not want to end the conversation, she would bring up additional topics even as she was leaving the lab.

Had a few other conversations but did not notice anything very different.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: Nothing to note on.
    - Congruence: Horribly incongruent :o Although I did plan on doing legitimate testing, I was pretty tired, not in the mood and actually became pretty pissed off from something that happened later in the day.

However it was not a complete loss of a day. I did get a bit more clarity on something:

IS might not necessarily give me a boost in happiness or confidence if I make no effort to be congruent. I can’t just spray it and expect it to boost my mood if its low. Though, I find that if I make an effort to be even a bit happy, approachable and confident, the IS boosts it and it seems pretty effective.

19

Date: November 25, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Sweet spot testing - IS, with some added IO

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied
    Applied at 7am:

  • IS: X2 in the hair, rubbed it around a bit with my wrists
  • IO: X1 on the wrists

Applied at 11am:

  • IS: X1 in the hair, rubbed it around with my fingers

  • IO: X1 on the wrists

    1. Environment/Location

  • Office building, climate controlled

  • A/C lab

    1. What I was wearing
      Slightly fancier casual clothing.

    2. Self Effects

  • No noticeable immediate effects

  • For awhile after my second application, I felt pretty happy and confident.

    1. Effects on others
      I decided to throw on the IO because I was supposed to have a team meeting and take part in conducting an interview for my replacement. Neither happened :frowning:

Definitely felt pretty confident and happy throughout the day, this positive and friendly attitude definitely showed in the conversations I took part in. I wish I took part in even more conversations but did not get an opportunity to do so today. I also noticed that I got several smiles from people I met eyes with or passed by, which is usually not the case. One of these people was actually the chairman of the board for the company I work for…:smiley:

Before going to lunch I had a quick conversation with my female coworker and I felt very confident and concise, as if I ran in there knowing EXACTLY what I was doing. The feeling is new and very hard to describe, but I remember it so I’m noting it here for my own reflection.

Had lunch with a couple of friends, did not notice anything too different from them. Though I had a pretty friendly and lengthy conversation with some strangers who were setting in the table next to us. They opened to me, instead of my friends.

Had a VERY long conversation with my female coworker past 5pm. It was relevant at first but dragged into other topics very quickly. She did seem pretty chatty and it’s a first to talk with her to that length past work hours.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: Effects noticed when within 1-on-1 conversation distance, and seemed a lot greater as the conversation/exposure progressed. Also, the smiles were sometimes from people past at least a few meters, so that must be from the self effects.
    - Congruence: Pretty congruent with the mix, I’d say I was generally happy and approachable.

I am definitely noticing the boost in confidence that IS provides for me. The IO really does seem to make me more approachable and friendly, compared to the days I just wore IS. In addition, the frequent smiles and chattier behavior I must also attribute to IO.

I am liking this mix, it is proving itself to be a very good general socializing, friendliness mix. :slight_smile:

20

Date: November 26, 2011

  1. Purpose
    Dual testing - Socializing Mix

  2. Pheromones used - which, how much, where and time applied
    Applied at around 1pm:
    -IS: X2 on each side of the neck
    -IO: X2 on wrists
    -IH: X2 on wrists

Applied at around 3pm:
-IS: X1 on the adam’s apple
-IO: X1 on wrists
-IH: X1 on wrists

Applied at around 4pm:
-AMMO: X2 on each side of the neck

Nigs wore the same mix on the same application points.

  1. Environment/Location

  • Mall: Climate controlled building, but individual stores are warmer/humid especially if busy

    1. What I was wearing
      We both wore normal casual clothing

    2. Self Effects

  • No notable immediate effects

  • About 30 mins to an hour in, we noticed we were very giddy and joyful, much more than usual

  • Throughout I felt very confident and easy to portray an alpha image, much more so than the mixes I have tried before with Nigs

    1. Effects on others
      So once again, Nigs and I met at the mall to do some dual testing for a social mix I had great results with earlier this week. Don’t worry, we are planning to do testing in other locales soon.

After applying the first phase of the mix, we went to the family restaurant we went previously for lunch. We had a brief, but hilarious conversation with the seater and she was VERY receptive and smiling a lot. Definitely a few notches above what we would expect even for someone with her job.

Just after applying the second phase of the mix, we went to another mall just to switch things up. This mall was a lot smaller and definitely more crowded than the previous one. I do not really remember what happened at each store, as we hit up quite a few. But generally each employee was:

  • Very friendly, if not initially but eventually became very friendly
  • Chatty
  • Not too many hits/IOIs

After applying AMMO, we decided to go to another nearby mall, which had more expensive stores. At this mall we also hit up quite a few stores, and the general trend we noticed from employees was:

  • Very friendly, but not as chatty as the previous stores
  • Saw much more IOI’s

At one store I decided to use the story. I got opened by a VERY attractive employee who I immediately acted very Alpha-male like and open with. I generally do not run into incredibly attractive women at school or work, so I’ve found I’m usually not completely open with them. This definitely was not the case with her. She was very helpful and throughout she was very open, joking around and receptive to light touches I made on her.

Throughout the day we noticed that alpha looking females would brush us off and did not react well. So just for kicks, we went to a nearby large store that is probably the most upper-class and expensive of all the stores in the area. This is the type of store with normal clothing costing $1k+. I was curious to see if I used the same story, how the employees would react and if the mones would help because I knew they would brush us off immediately.

I opened to an employee there in the same way I opened to the previous ones. As expected, she was completely closed, no eye contact, very unhelpful and wouldn’t even budge from where she was standing in order to help us. Nigs and I shortly after left and had a good chuckle as to what just happened.

  1. Analysis
    - Exposure: Relatively close range, I have yet to see long range effects that cannot be from the self effects
    - Congruence: Generally pretty congruent with the mix. I was more friendly and open with the first two phases, then became more Alpha-like after putting on AMMO

I definitely did not have to same results as when I did solo testing with this mix. Why? Here are my theories:

  • I personally did not feel the same self effects, nor was I as congruent
  • An office environment is better for diffusion and exposure. Compared to a mall, an office is less drafty and warmer, thus allowing the mones to diffuse more effectively

I personally like the idea of asking for help from store employees, as it gives an easy way to have a lengthy conversation with women, to increase exposure. However, it does have a few flaws. Although it is often obvious, it is sometimes difficult to determine whether their friendliness/helpfulness is due to the mones or is it just them doing their job.

Why do we have such poor results with Alpha-females? We are not sure it could be a few things, maybe we are not congruent enough with the mones? Perhaps with the mones we are “competition” We will have to experiment a bit more, especially after we get A314.