A Scottish Sceptic

Hi to all, I’m most-commonly called Mickey by those who’ve known me a long time, in my early forties (but neither look, nor act, my age), and I live in central Scotland.

I’ve been aware of the existence of pheromones for years, or more-likely decades. :smiley: Nature programs casually mention them when discussing the mating habits, and whatnot, of virtually every species on the planet - except humans. It’s as-if our bodies don’t produce them, or modern man’s preference for being clean means they play no part in attracting members of the opposite sex.

I don’t believe that but, I’m also wary of the fact that the smell that goes with pheromones might be musky to the point of being unpleasant. That’s the first point that has discouraged me from trying something out. The other obvious point is I’m Scottish - we have a reputation to uphold about being careful with our money to the point of being mocked as tight-fisted. When many products are very expensive, and websites advertising them describe the supposedly active content with hand-waving gibberish, I walk on by.

A lot of this prompted me to sign up here. And, and active interest in knowing more was recently prompted through overhearing a hilarious discussion in an adult store.

Through Google, I’ve found a couple of reasonably-priced products on Amazon. (In the £10-20 range - $15-$30 for those in the U.S.) That’s reasonable enough to contemplate taking a chance on, but your average Amazon reviewer can barely string a sentence together.

So, here I am; keen to know what works, and doesn’t make you smell like a billy-goat.

I’m not ugly, I’m not overweight. I lost my virginity about 25 years ago, and am told I’m good in bed. I’m shy when it comes to first meeting someone, but once part that hurdle sociable, chatty, and get on well with people (male and female). Psychologically, knowing I was using a pheromone that has been successfully tested would probably make me cocky enough to make the first move more often; then, it’s just a matter of converting that into what most people shopping for this edge are really hoping to buy. :wink:

Hello Mickey !! First Things first.. Welcome to pherotalk !

I brought a few pheros from amazon long time back and found it to be stinky and not very effective either. they tend to be cheap and ineffective.

However this is probably the only store where I have found several phero combos which can be used in different situations including work/boardrooms.

I would suggest Heavy AMMO and Instant Shine for you. since you are in your forties you need some none based phero which can signal virility and get the ladies attracted to you and thus responsive to any advance you may make towards them. AMMO would do that for you and it also makes women a bit giddy around you :wink:. Instant Shine makes you feel good it also makes those people around you feel good. essentially those butterflies in the belly disappears for you and you would be free to make the first move and thanks to the positive vibe.. chances of rejection are reduced..(assuming basic social skills are there)

I’d say stay away from them…I brought M11 and something called pherone long time back… never worked for me much… atleast not worth the money u spend on it.

I would suggest that you wait till you get your GC. then spend it on Togo bottles of AMMO and Instant Shine… once you use them the pheros will speak for themselves :slight_smile:

all the best

Hi there Mickey,

Thats cool that your from Scotland.Heard its a pretty nice place(^^)Haha,yeah.Man still doesn’t want to believe in the uses of pheromones on humans(><)Wouldnt worry too much about the scents,most of the stuff other than ammo comes in neroli which is pretty mild and easy to cover.Ammo has a nice smell but is pretty strong till it dries down(><)Haha,you dont have to worry about the being careful with money since you get a 25$ gift certificate for your introduction which you can use to get some to-go’s from here without using your own money.Youll still have to pay for shipping though(><) Haha,definitely avoid the ones with outrageous claims though(^_^)

Haha,since you dont really have anything you want to fix with pheromones.You should probably get some ammo for going out and attracting the ladies since it gives you a sexy and cool vibe.Girls tend to lean in to sniff your neck when you have it on your neck which is pretty cool(><)Some instant shine which puts you and the people around you in a good mood is also a good one to try.If you want something for work,instant gentleman or A314 both give an alpha vibe that should be trusted and respected which is a good vibe for work.You might also consider instant openness to help with icebreaking or instant honesty for better connections during dates.If you want to keep it simple though,ammo+instant shine for going out and dates and instant gentleman/a314 +instant shine for work is probably all youll need.All the best and hope to catch ya around the forums.You should read the 2 stickies below also if you haven’t already as they will give you a good base for getting the best effects from your mones(^^)
(An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration)An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of
(Pheromone F A Qs)Pheromone FAQs

Thanks for the answers so far. They seem to back up what I’ve read in the store.

What’s interesting is that the store lists pheromones other than for use in sexual seduction. The idea that an appropriate combination might do something like give an edge in a job interview is a fascinating one. Since I’m currently looking for a new job that’s better-paid than my current one, that’s something I’m going to think about.

We all know the old saying that “money is the most powerful aphrodisiac”, right?

Aye Mickey - Welcome to Pherotalk. :slight_smile:

I’m a wee bit north and east of you and I’ll say that I was pretty suspicious about the effectiveness of pheros before I came here too. I’d worked in professional science for many years and seen how pheros play a vital role in the life cycle of many other creatures, so eventually I persuaded myself to have a go.

I suppose I was lucky with the first pheros I bought. I found a firm that sold good product - beta androstenol but they totally overstated its effectiveness and properties. However, I did get good solid hits/responses and it was researching them that led me here, where I found honest discussion on its true nature (a social phero) and a far clearer explanation of the different types/functions of pheros. As things went on and I tried more and more varied products, I became fully convinced.

Aghor and looifookmeng have given you good pointers on products to start off with and I fully second them. I’d also say that you may prefer Ammo in the F22 or “World Edition” scent, available here:

AMMUNITION Cologne for Men - TO GO! World Edition :: Archive & Alternative Versions :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct

AMMUNITION FF22 “World Edition”. :: Archive & Alternative Versions :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct

This is far more suited to European sensibillities for colognes.

The rest of AD’s scents sit well with many good colognes and Akuto is excellent on its own.

As we are of similar age, I will also suggest you consider A314 for work (oil is best IMO) and the strongly sexual combo of A314 oil and a little 2x TUTH - Which is an incredible “man of few words and unashamed sexuality” mix for clubbing etc. Women from their mid 30’s-up tend to respond to it superbly and the ease and speed of hook-ups with this mix never ceases to amaze me.

Now, delivery is expensive but compaired to its main rival, AD’s stuff arrives very quickly indeed. Typically only about three days from the US to Scotland and even with the disruption we had last winter, they got a packet through the snow, ice and cancelled/rerouted flights to me in only five days! The other main firm can often take a month or more and is usually hit with a customs charge that more or less wipes out any difference in postage - I have yet to be hit with extra charges for anything from AD. In fact AD also tend to slip a well-chosen freebie or two into our packets and again, this often makes-up for the extra costs very nicely! :wink:

However, there are a few other makes of phero you will see in discussion here that do deliver good results and I wouldn’t dream of putting you off trying them, esp as by our 40s, we can make good use of the more overt/none-heavy products in a way that younger guys can not.

Hope to hear good results from you soon. :slight_smile:

mobocaster, thanks for the tips related to cologne/perfume for women on this side of the pond. Sadly, the two products you linked to are out of stock - have you been stockpiling? :smiley:

I’d not thought about the perfume content being aimed at the U.S. market, but do recall being given a gift of after-shave when in the States. I thought it was hideous; but, several American women said I smelt nice.

I’ve always worn the original Ralph Lauren Polo that comes in the green bottle. The only problem there is you look at the price and go :open_mouth: When paying that much it should already come with pheromones in it!

I’ll keep an eye out for the US$25 voucher appearing in my inbox, then have a look around the store based on recommendations so far. Since people are suggesting using “cocktails”, I may hold off until payday so I only pay shipping once. Feedback in the store also indicates that a multi-product order is a good way to get a little gift extra slipped in with it. What Scotsman could resist that? :wink:

Yup - I now try to group my orders so that I get free shipping, IIRC that is @$200

Ammo is one of the flagship products, so it never goes out of stock for long in any form. Any questions, just check the Store forum fo restock info or even drop John Sebastian an email. The staff here are very open and approchable and the customer service is second to none.

Yes, most of us use mixes but it is best to give each product a run on its own first. That way you get a better idea of how they work and how they combine - Some mixes, eg Ammo/IS or TUTH/A314 are usually greater than the sum of their parts. :slight_smile:

A314 and Instant Gentleman are excellent work products.. both projecting a successful man vibe.. probably the difference between A314 and IG is “The Man” and “A Successful Man” IG is more accommodating of others while A314 says I am the best in unequivocal language.

So for a job interview decide between these two based on how secure the interviewer is. An unsecure guy as interviewer.. (probably ur prospective direct line manager) may get intimidated with A314 and would try to get you rejected else you take his seat once you are in the company. IN such cases IG works better. However lets say if the interviewers are more secure in themselves.. like HR department people (you no matter how good wont threaten their job) or board…then A314 is better to project that I am good trust me vibe very clearly without any ambivalence.

IH well with both in work situations and makes them take you more seriously. It kinda makes them feel that they have known you for long even though it could be your first meeting. IH is excellent for bonding.

If you like a particular girl well and would like to bond with her.. use IH (on wrists not on neck) around her. just remember to watch your words while you wear IH. it kinda makes people open up both yourself and those around you. IH accelerates the bonding process especially in date.. even after 1 date where u use IH, she may feel as if she had known you for long

Better living through pheromones!

The information provided so far is fascinating.

Aghor, you’ve convinced me to hold off for the moment and put in an order on payday for a larger “biochemistry set” to play with. It sounds like more fun than Tim Leary’s recommendations, and you’re not likely to be too wrecked to note the results.

Since I’ve always been a bit of a people-watcher, and tried to work on reading body-language when doing bits of journalistic work (not my full-time profession), I’m now fascinated and keen to carry out a few “field experiments”.

I’ll be keeping an eye on the forums, and be posting some more in a couple of weeks - unless I’m abducted by a horde of sexually repressed female recruitment consultants. :stuck_out_tongue:

Hope you start posting regularly in the forums. those who are keen people watchers have an advantage over other phero users in terms of being able to tweak their phero dosage to the ideal level to get the best reactions. cause there is not standard dosage for any pheromone. you have to watch for reactions both positive and negative from people and tweak your dosage for best results. good luck :slight_smile:

Yes - And people watchers also have a head start when it comes to observing and reporting hits in people around them. :slight_smile:

Welcome to pherotalk Scott!

I believe for now you got more than enough support and info that you need and its time to get just test and have fun with these.

Your gc was issued! :slight_smile: