Love A314, but I’m out and store is out of stock, and seems like it might be for a while…anyone have any similar alternatives that they could recommend? I’m going on an extended international business trip and would like to go “loaded for bear” so to speak. Looking for any alternatives from androtics or other vendors. Thank you in advance…
Im currently looking into Alpha 7 by Love Scent. The description says its 6:1 None:Rone but I think it may be inverted according to some reports, seems like a solid alternative.
Maybe I’ll give it a try. Just wish A314 was back in stock. I had it all dialed in as far as my personal signature, and then it got stolen from my car and there is none in the store. So I went cold turkey! 
Thanks for the input.
A7 is a useful complement for A314 but absolutely no alternative whatever the debate elsewhere. Just calling a product “Alpha” does not put it anywhere near the A314 ballpark.
A314 has nine components, whilst A7 only has two at whatever proportion And no, I don’t agree with the debate elsewhere - I’ve ghosted on none products incl A7 enough times to recognise a high none product when I see one - Although the rone does give A7 a gravitas a lot of other hi-none mixes lack.
The nearest I’ve yet seen is Steve’s Ascend, although it still has distinct and significant differences
Mobo, do you know when it is coming back or IF it will come back? Androtics has really aggravated me as far as the lack of information goes. I am definitely going to give Steves ascend a try as it doesn’t seem as intimidating but still high status.
Sorry but I’m in exactly the same boat as you - All I can say is that I’ve seen it go out before and it has come back, so I’m hoping this is just another short-term molecule drought but I’ll admit this, the scents going OOS and the lack of comment from John is concerning me a bit now. 
I’m still using A314 for work but I’m backing-off at weekends and using other mixes, incl Ascend in order to manage my supplies a little better.
Mobo, if you don’t mind… would you be able to share some differences between the 2?
Important - bear in mind that I’ve not been using Ascend at work much because I got the oil version with Cops. Mainly its been in social time and I’ve only been using it a few months, compared to several years of A314 - and I get the feeling I’m going to have a similar long learning curve with Ascend because its just as complex.
But saying that, it is the first product with cops that I’ve ever been able to use consistently and get quality results.
As for Ascend’s feel - It is very high status but slightly lighter/younger, smoother, more sociable, comforting and engaging without the standing to attention vibe that A314 can often give. Its also more cheeky/inspirational/seat of the pants vibe - Sort of the dashing entrepreneur to A314’s Chairman of the Board.
And it works well with plenty AD products, in a way similar to the A314 SBE version of a couple of years ago. Add TUTH for something very smooth, engaging and damn sexy from the off! 
The only Issue with its cops formula is smell - Although they are very low in the mix, even over lotion, I do get a little whiff of that “special cheese” after around eight hours. There is also some A1 in its mix, which may not help its scent longevity either.
Scents, so far I’ve only tried the FXS scent and its light, clean, very easy to cover - I have a bottle in musk waiting at the PO to collect tomorrow.
I’ll eventually get round to a cops free bottle for a proper comparison at work.
Mobo,
What are your thoughts on using something like Instant Gentleman and adding A1 or something of that nature to kind of toughen it up as a pheromone mix that could be a reasonable alternative to A314?
In other words, what would be a good addition to Instant Gentleman in order to more closely mimic A314?
Interested to hear your thoughts.
Or do you think Ascend would already be closer to A314?
I wouldn’t see that A1 to IG would toughen it up in any way, (in fact it would do just the opposite IMO) and it certainly wouldn’t emulate A314 - remember that A1/A314 can be a pretty effective combo as well.
However IG/P75 (maybe with a little betanol or IH) might have more of an edge and I’ve had ideas about a couple of other putatives that might boost IG in the direction of A314 but I’ve just toyed with them and never tested seriously.
If you are wanting an already excellent mix that has many qualities concurrent with A314, then I would go for Ascend - and I’d probably have the cops left out you are wanting to use it at work. I’ve taken the cops version out a few of times at work and I must say I did see some discomfort in one Asian colleague who had previously responded superbly to A314. Looks like I’m going to buy another other bottle - I was holding-off till he got his Evolve oil on the go - The spray version is great with both A314 and Ascend.
Thanks for your insight Mobo. I will have to look closer into Ascend and learn more about it.
Did you get your new Ascend with musk cover scent yet?
Was the new musk version Cops free? If so, how do you find the difference in hits/response of people or is it too early to tell?
No, I got another with cops whilst he’s still running a discount. The Scent is interesting and I’m warming to it - also easy to cover.
Next bottle will be cops free, I’m just waiting for his Evolve Oil to go on sale and I’ll get it at the same time. I’ve just started a tester of the Evolve - Which is also very promising!
Any speculation on using A 1 to complement Ascend?
Remember there is already some A1 in Ascend but Cohesion oil goes very well and that is a mix with A1 as a primary and the “A-C-E combo” is well liked by many who have all three.
I’ve also found Ascend/NPA very good in a way similar to A314/NPA and that’s another product with some A1.
The mixes I’ve been liking beyond all others recently are Ascend/P97 and Ascend (2-3 drops), Cohesion (1-2 drops) and Domination (1-2 drops) which is a “roll-out the red carpet” status mix with powerful sexuality but still sociable/moderated enough to use effectively around twentysomethings.
Arrrgh!!! I ran out too! and it’s out of stock!. dammit…there is no substitute.
Check John’s announcement in the Store Forum - Looks like it won’t be too much longer now!
There is literally no substitute. Nobody else can produce the formula or anything near it with the precision that we do. Its like saying that a Geo Metro with leather seats is the same thing as having an AMG Mercedes Benz.
I just announced the restock privately in your insiders forum here, so you guys can re-up before everybody else. 
I will announce in the main forum in ~3 hours.