Can A314 make people act aggressively towards you ? i find some people try to challenge me more when wearing A314 especially as it wears off …
Simple answer is yes! In nature the alpha male is ALWAYS being challenged. A314 is an extremely Alpha pheromone and you MUST be congruent with the vibe that you are giving or else they can tell that you are phony. For me A314 gives me that boost of confidence and makes me straighten my posture…it just brings out the best in me. You can’t be a wimp wearing it
Absolutely…Star is dead on. I notice it more towards the end of its life, like 6-10 hours after application. One way to eliminate this is add some P75 with the A314, or as a kicker 3-4 hours in. Depends on the crowd you are running with though. At work, the A314 works just fine on its own all day. Seems logical though, as most of the time at work there are not overt challenges like at a club or a bar. Im a big guy to begin with, so I dont get challenged much. I figure they see my 6’5" frame and they move on to easier targets.
But some guys get off on challenging the biggest guy in the room. Most of the time its a total chickenshit move though, like going to talk to my date when I go to the bathroom. Then when I come back they are all like “Hey bro, I was just keeping your date company while you were gone…” Time to move along 'Lil doggie.." ![]()
Most of the challenges I do see are like bumping into me accidentally on purpose, letting the door slam on me if I walk out behind them, etc. Most of the time I just blow it off because 1) its infantile, and 2) Im the Alpha, I dont get drawn into bullshit. Water off a ducks back…
Try upping the dose to 3-4 drops and I bet that BS will go away, or if you know you are going into an environment where their might be a lot of aggressive guys, drop about 10mcg (or more) P75 on top and they will steer clear. Guaranteed. Good luck!
I noticed the same ..
after a few hours the stuff wears off to some extent .. and i do not want to say it becomes beta ..
the Alpha vibe fades and at the same time peeps.. especially women become way more confident and you’re facing quite some shit tests ..
like said by previous poster you can fight that thing by adding more A314 ..
or by adding some P75 .. do not like that option really much … it’s a bit too sexual .
good option is as well ading some A1 .. you wont need much .. maybe 10 mcg’s
very low amounts of P80 were as well a good addition .
cheers,
Pago
But of course, even in a company of 10K people–even if all 10K have A314–only one will be CEO, and most won’t be even supervisor. One must be more than congruent. A leader is a cutting-edge innovator. The person whom others look to for answers. So, shit testing is merely people seeing if someting truly unique is more than skin deep.
Ok so yesterday i experienced both sides of it … in the first few hours my wife seemed to be going along with everything i was saying, even managed to side step something that could have been an argument usually, relatively easy… however few hours later seemed like everything was up for challenge…so my question is if i top up with p75 or an extra spray of A314 will it scare everybody away ? there are situations in which i would like to have people keep their distance, on the other hand there are situations in which i would prefer the respect but sociable vibe at the same time. How do i moderate this to keep off the challenges and scare people completely ?? Also does p75 mixed with A314 bring a slight sexual vibe ? would that not just say BACK OFF ???
P75 by itself, I have found, is very attractive to the ladies, but can rub some guys the wrong way. The best way to use P75 IMO is to use smaller doses (2.5mcg) and buffer it with the social of your choice. That way the ladies stay interested, and you are not bugging guys that are in your phero-sphere…
P75 is well tolerated by other men when buffered. No problem.
So to answer your question, if you want people to keep their distance (men and women) a high dose of A314 can be intimidating and keep people from approaching you. But if you want the attention, respect, social vibe, then do the A314 with a social or two to make you more approachable, like IH, IS, or IO. This will break down the intimidation barrier and say its ok to come and talk to you.
I mostly use P75 as a base, and steer it with other pheros. Same with A314. Occasionally I will add a spray of P75 on top of A314 to make it a little more sexy, but I still buffer it with something to make it approachable. Even then, I find I need to initiate conversations, especially with women. Many women will not initiate, but will jump right in when you break the ice.
As many people here will attest, pheros arent magic. You still have to “do” something. “Live” the vibe you want to project. Congruency and all that…
Yup - P75/A314 is a a cracker of a hectoring arsehole vibe - The sort of person who will argue anything, at length.
Some women may find this sexy I suppose but I generally keep it for meetings with certain kinds of senior management (sometimes with IJ thrown-in), in order to promote the feeling that it is really much better just to agree with me if they want an easy life! ![]()
i was hoping more for a combo that says you can say hi but do not even think about challenging… P75 is a hit or miss for me but i think that is because i got a 5mg which i believe is to much for me… i like what A314 brings to the table and if needed i would like that some people back off but not everybody … more like i can choose
making any sense ?
The simple answer is yes. People will sense your Alpha signature and those who are accustomed to AMOGing may certainly challenge your status, much like a girl will challenge your congruence with shit tests.
Yeah some will challenge you wearing A314, its a little hard to work out the best reaction sometimes
A314 is an interesting one to master, I’d say the better your social skills get the more you’ll be able to navigate the experience in a positive way
I can confirm for me that towards the end of it’s life some people become more aggressive.
I applied A314 ( I have another report of mixing A314 with TUTH) around 9am on my way to a sales meeting at which I was presenting. Three hours into the meeting I was in total control every one was eating out of my hands so to speak including my colleague (he is a very arrogant person because of his success as a salesman) who was with me. Then about 4 hours or so into the meeting my colleague starting interrupting me or talking over me. I tried to talk over him in return but he became more aggressive and out spoken. I remembered reading this post prior to trying A314 so I excuse myself and when to the bathroom and sprayed some more A314 and yes you guess it, I was back in control of the meeting. So much so that at the end of the meeting on our way back to our cars (thank goodness that we were travelling in different cars - lol) he told me how impress he was with my presentation. Its the same presentation I have given several times in the pass with this guy and he has always found something that I should have mentioned but not this time.
I know this is a long response to your question but thought it might be worth stating my story. I am very new to pheromones and i have been a number of research over the internet because my interest have been picked. So anyone with some interesting recommendation please post to me. I had what can only be described as wonderful success with A314 and TUTH and not so much with TUTH on its own. I will post these in the appropriate place.
On 1 drop of a314 I notice i get challenged or randomly disagreed with at work by people at the same level as me or below me. But i get very noticeable respect from people above me. As they don’t feel threatened.
Thats wear p74 can help, but thats just becasue it cuts out bs people give you in genral. making a314 work on everyone.
I’ve noticed that p74 does seem to work well with a314 and it doesn’t detract from the status and respect vibe. How many sprays of p74 do you use with 1 or 2 sprays of a314? I use 1 spray p74 5mcg with 2 sprays of a314.
IH/P74 is the combo that goes really well around difficult people and A314 IME. I use it for public events/conferences where there is an above average chance of difficult celeb/keynote types who insist on it being all about them - I usually have them on my side in no-time.
Generally a higher than normal dose of P74 works well in these situations and as I’m not usually looking for attraction effects, I can go as high as 30/40mcg and 2-4 sprays IH. Of course I can offset this with a hefty sexual later if needed.
Although the one thing I have noticed is the absolute lack of arguments since I’v adopted A314 - Most often it is much easier to being people to my side with a bit of involvement, engagement and illustrating how going my-way could be more useful to them in the long run than going against me.
And every time I’ve been expecting a full-on argument and gone-in armed to the teeth with an A314/IJ mix, the persons concerned have ended-up being most accommodating, more like pussycats IME! ![]()
What kind of message does IH and p74 communicate to people while wearing a314? Does it reduce the status and respect vibe?
How many sprays of a314 do you wear with that amount of p74 and IH? I have observed the effect of just one spray of p74 with two sprays of a314 and it improves interactions noticeably - IH and p74 together must be amazing with a314. I will have to test this and see how it affects others. Do you find it affects you differently compared to wearing a314 on its own?
I have also found it alot easier to get people to see my side of things when wearing a314. It’s like my words carry more weight, even if you haven’t articulated something particularly well, people seem to understand. Have you found this? What do people see and feel when you’re wearing a314 around them?
Would p75 have a similar effect? Also, how much IJ do you wear for those occasions?
A314 spray is a different animal and I can see that many mones will have subsided in 4 hours.
Oil A314 rev 32 at two drops should be good all day and I use it 5 days per weak. It also has some attraction properties unlike rev 29.
When going out after work I add 2 sprays of shine and the attraction really spikes.
Careful about residual mones since they are hard to remove weather alcohol, peroxide and witch hazel. Tea tree oil too. Hunters scent removal soap I use Monday mornings. Not to hijack but at times my A314 can be overly aggressive or attractive and that’s due to none I have remaining on skin or even jacket
Edit: This morning I did apply 5 drops of A314 oil and after working outside in the heat it does dissipate and get much more alpha. I feel far more assertive and even horny. I sometimes apply a large amount when not at work just for testing purposes .
Your 2 drop application I would expect to become more alpha and hit people a little harder. This may be what’s causing the testing since you would have to step up to the plate and behave more congruently with this evolution.
Of course in an office, cooler climate this transition won’t be as apparent and the oil should retain it’s properties for more than 4 hours.
Not really - The P74 more steers it in the “friendly authority/expert” direction - The sort of guy you can take your problems to and he will help you find a solution. With IH in the mix it deepens respect, trust and authority further and they just sort-of sit at your feet in awe - its almost a “crush-on-teacher” vibe - but unisex, which is why I backed-off it day to day as it was getting embarrassing!
I mainly use the oil but I do keep an /a spray on hand to topup if I’m landed with the high-ups at short notice. A314 alone is a much sharper, utterly professional, capable and on-the-ball signature. Good for being around people who expect you make stuff happen without bothering them - I then steer it if required, usually from a choice of IS, P114, P74 and IH, although I do try to work off my baseline sig as much as possible. This is maybe part of why my work has moved away from almost wholly lab-based science in the last year or two and I’m getting a lot more public/media-facing work. I’ve taken-on a new building which although bigger, actually means less work overall as most of the research is self-contained project groups working at a much higher level than I’ve been used to before. This frees-up more of my time to do the public/media facing work (three years ago, I was the occasional help-out guy!). Also there is also a major rebuilding project in the works and part of the reason for my move is so I can see the lab-provision side of that project through from start to finish! So yes, once you go-down the A314 wormhole, who-knows where it will go! ![]()
After the Rev 31 debacle, I re-spotted Rev 32 completely. I’m now on 3 drops Rev32 as my baseline as opposed to 2 drops pre-Rev31 this may also reflect the different people I’m dealing with in my new role. Socially/sexually the wider dose range is 1-6 drops depending on situation/mix.
Yes - A314 is not an overt argumentative/confrontational vibe on its own. More that it indicates you are capable, positive, someone to be taken seriously and you will hold your ground if challenged. People tend to want to negotiate rather than argue and of course you take the lead by bringing them in with you to find a mutual solution.
P75 - I actually avoid using that around A314 as much as possible. I have wondered if its in the A314 steering already as you don’t need much P75 to make A314 go very serious very quickly. It also adds a hectoring arsehole quality that I really don’t like but I suppose it could be useful in some situations. This is an idea of what an A314/P75 signature is to me:
IJ - Its not a subtle dose. Last two meetings with my bosses over my change in role saw me going-in with 4 drops A314 and 2-3 sprays IJ. I was fully expecting and prepared for a fight but instead I left with an effective promotion and a longer term plan that could see me in charge of a specialist services group similar to our medical division on another site. I gave some ground by accepting the need for a change in role and they moved to seeing it my way and agreed to back me. ![]()
That must have been quite funny and embarrassing
but it’s good to know the mix of pheros for that effect.
If I spray two sprays in the morning I find the effects last throughout the whole day, although not as effective as when I first spray them I can still see it affecting others in the evening.
That’s interesting, perhaps it is already in a314 as one of the steering molecules - can p75 (2.5 mcg) usually be added to most other pheros fairly safely?
I have tested the following mix a few times:
2 sprays a314
1 spray ammo
1 spray IS
1 spray p74 (5 mcg)
2 sprays p83 (15 mcg)
The ammo certainly has a positive effect on people, both men and women, perhaps because of the steering molecules in it. I think it’s the p74 and p83 that may be giving the most benefits. Would the p83 in this mix make people come round to your side of thinking quicker? Increase the trust and respect vibe?
Most other primary pheros do well with a little P75, yes.
The P83 won’t do a great deal in the work context and nothing at all in the trust/respect direction IME. Its disinhibition could actually work against you in some ways (esp if you need to assert authority) Its very much a secondary I tend to keep for after work, along with a sexual to help make things more physical/playful. ![]()