Hey everybody. I posted this in the introduction section but I haven’t gotten an answer yet. I know it’s the Holidays so I’m sure fewer people are on, either way I thought maybe more people would see it in here. The two that were recommended to me in the Intro thread were A314 and TUTH. I do like the way they both read, here’s the other questions I had (pulled straight from the other thread):
I had been reading about A314 , how long does it usually last (the bottle itself)? I’m just curious because it seems to be the most expensive one on here. I do like the way it reads. I also read on the A314 product page that you can mix it with a squirt of TUTH to add a little bit of sexual spark. Do you have any personal experience with these two?
Also, how strong is the scent? I know what it says on their pages, but I’m just curious to know from someone that has actually tried it.
I’m pretty set on getting both of them, I’m just waiting on the gift certificate’s to be updated, I’m hoping I earned one.
This is an excellent mature and high status/sexual mix if you can carry it off. I’ve found it excellent with 30+ women in clubs/parties etc but it can be very daunting to younger ones. Broadly, you use a smaller than normal dose of TUTH to steer a larger than normal dose of A314 in a very sexual direction.
I take it you mean the A314 oil? A bottle has approx 270 drops, which amounts to several months at a regular dose of 2-3 drops daily. When using it in sexual combos with TUTH (or other overt pheros like IJ or NPA) I will dose higher - 4-6 drop range. Either way, it does work out more cost effective than the sprays as they only have 40 sprays in each togo and the alcohol base does not last nearly as long on your skin as the oil.
Scent is mild - A314 oil can effectively be used in low/no scent environments if you apply around 30-60mins before going-in as it settles so light. TUTH is in 6% Neroli (orange blossom), which settles to a light background level after half an hour or so. However, the individual pheros in TUTH can make it a little musky, so often a secondary cover scent is useful. Do not be tempted to spray TUTH in places like pits, groin etc as the warmth and skin bacteria will cause it to break down faster than normal and that can get unpleasant. Similarly hair is unwise for spraying as none will bind and is only shifted with a lot of scrubbing!
Cool, thanks for the reply. I like the fact that it’s better for older women, I work around a lot of women and all of them are older then me (mid 30’s, early 40’s). The A314 is def for work. My thought was starting with two drops, like recommended. I would put one drop on my index finger and rub it with my other, and then place it behind my ear and down the back of my neck. Then a 2nd drop on my wrist and mix in with my other wrist (and yes your assumption was right about going with the oil). As for the TUTH, I was thinking one spray on my chest, under my shirt. I do want to wear these together, probably not every workday, but some. And maybe going heavier with the TUTH on night’s out, but not for work.
Yes, those are all good app points - Best to start with one drop and stick with that for a few days, then increase again in slow stages. This is partly to ease the people around you into your new signature and also to let you catch-up with it yourself. A314 oil can take a bit longer to get used to compared to other pheros but it is worth sticking with.
Similarly TUTH, because of its overtness is often not the easiest phero to get to grips with, esp in environments where its sexuality can’t be capitalised on. Wearing it under the shirt is however a diffusion reducing tactic more associated with younger guys around younger women. By the time you (and they) are into their thirties and over, it is highly likely they will be comfortable and responsive to a much more up-front sig, so I’d get it up there where the TUTH can diffuse unhindered - Neck/throat/forearms etc. Don’t get too hung-up on app points though, so long as it has decent blood flow and can diffuse, all should be well.
One thing - Don’t spray alcohol based pheros or cover scents over your oil app points as this can muck-up the oil diffusion. Sprays and covers are fine to layer together, just leave a couple of minutes between spraying each layer but keep the oil points apart.
For getting started with finding your dose, have a good read of the “Sweet Spot” post on this thread, which also covers all the basics for effective use:
Also, when you get your order number confirmed, do PM Steve for a password to the A314 forum - There is much more discussion of the A314/TUTH combo, look for the original thread by Radman and Steve has posted a more advanced sweet spotting guide for A314. This should answer a lot of your questions better.
That’s a lot of good info. I can’t wait to get into the A314 forum. Until then, I’ll read up on the Intro thread you just mentioned. Have a good Christmas and hopefully I will be able to get things ordered in the next few days.