This weekend I decided to hit the mall and do a little shopping, maybe down a Blue Moon (weiss beer) or two while there. I get all prettied up with Italian boots, Guess jeans and Lucky T and, as the finishing touch, reached for my A314. I aimed the 15ml bottle at my left forearm and gave it a mighty jerk. Ah frick, out swooshed a puddle of pheromonal cum. How much I haven’t a clue, but probably the equivalent of about 20 drops. No way am I gonna waste this precious joy juice so I christened the day “A314 OD test.”
How could this happen? Most of you know hardly nothing comes out of an A314 bottle unless you spank it like a conga player. I’m accustomed to the thick organic oil of Adrotic’s pricey A314 and forgot myself. This puppy was Lovescent’s custom A314, made by Androtics, but using a thinner non-organic oil that flows easily. Instead of smelling like a headshop, LS A314 has a lighter more spicy scent. I find it more pleasing and easier to blend with my colognes. And, unlike AD A314, the scent package does not cause a rash on my neck. Whatever it works the same and I’m happy with it.
So, I lace myself with SOE and TAA oil to help buffer the A314 and hit Ala Moana Shopping Center. It was teeming with crowds of locals and tourists, with Japanese nationals in the majority. Hawaiian locals and Asians from Asia have a reduced sense of personal space compared to folks in the continental USA. In other words they tend to brush against you or pass within inches of your face. Although I’m Asian, such behavior bugs the hell out of me (my suburban American roots are showing). Within seconds I noticed a strange phenomena: people within 1-2 meters were scurrying out of my way. I felt like friggen Moses at the Red Sea. I smiled and looked at their faces and the expressions were shockingly revealing: most seemed uncomfortable, some were fearful while others had a painful grimace. I sat down near some Japanese girls thinking I’d strike up a conversation. I looked at them, smiled and said “hi.” Within a couple minutes they beat it. Normally I get at least a few giggles and shy conversation. They were not talking or digging me at all.
Now I have worn large amounts of androsterone before and never experienced anything remotely similar. With OD levels of androstenone I at least got more emotional and often horny reactions. The A314 OD was sorta like “here comes the sun, don’t look or you’ll be blinded.” It was not friendly, sexual or aggressive. It merely drove people away into their safety zone. So I assume the steering mones in A314 caused the urgent need for “distance.”
I only remained in the mall for about an hour as I found the experience unsettling. I’ll take an androstenone OD any day of the week over this.
The next day (Sunday) I went to Costco sans mones. In contrast to the mall, people were constantly trying to run me over with their shopping carts. I had to dive out of the way of several old ladies or suffer bodily injury…
That’s the effect I get at doses over 6 drops. The result is that people feel like they’re overwhelmed with your presence. I have been told that people felt like they weren’t good enough to be talking to me, etc.
amazing!
although I think soe’s rone might have amplified the a314 making a person even less approachable.
I get invisibility type reactions with soe above 24 inches by itself, but the next day is great.
I normally use around 4 drops (sometimes I think those 4 drops equal 10 or so from that damn AD bottle. No drop is ever the same size ! ). I usually have people avoid me like the plagueand move out of my way pronto! ) I sort of have got used to it and when I go cold turkey from A314 I just seem to forget that people no longer have that fear of me anymore and they start coming closer to me than I am used to. I literally have some very powerful people in the industry that I am in run for cover when I wear a314 at work . Love it to death !
Wore IG the other day and was disappointed to note that it doesn’t pack the same punch. it is too social. I love the Moses and red sea effect you mentioned earlier.
I do carry 10mcg rone in a to go with me sometimes . I don’t use it much though . If a large dose were to give a similar effect to a314 thenthat would be amazing .
Androsterone will not give you a similar effect. The A314 steering is critical.
Too much unsteered rone gives you the old fuddy-duddy, drinking a glass of pink gin in that old armchair in the corner vibe or the dreaded “funky-uncle” effect.
As closely as I can say so, heavy amounts of P75 remind me of this OP. Every time I’ve read a post on purported OD of an eRone product, it screams 75 OD to me. If you use 15 micros on men or about 20-30 on women, you get the same neutron-bomb distancing effect. Seen it 25 times or more. It’s nothing to do with 20 of androstenone at all. I can’t help but wonder if it has something to do with the lab the Rone came from or the raw/pure thing. Or 314 has 75 in it… But, you know, John S. had suggested 314B spray for an alpha female effect for women to wear (vs. IS/A when it was out of stock). WTF? What’s the nexus that ties Rone, 314, 75, IS/A and 314B? Women keep wanting something more Alpha and I tell them None probably isn’t it. There’s something to this, I’m just not clear what it is. Somebody who tested some eRone variant test packs might know. I’m not a chemist, but I’ll eat tin foil if 75 isn’t somewhere in the metabolism of eRone.
“That’s the effect I get at doses over 6 drops. The result is that people feel like they’re overwhelmed with your presence. I have been told that people felt like they weren’t good enough to be talking to me, etc.” Yes, yes. I get TV producers (I’m not kidding…ABC/Disney has a big presence here) who think I’m above their pay grade. I normally reserve heavy 75 to stave off status challenges from men. Sometimes the social proof with women has value.
Yes, I’ve long wondered about the possible presence of P75 in A314 as well - hence my interest in combos involving P75 and various rone products a while back.
I’m still thinking on a synergistic thing rather than a single molecule for the effect but P75 does toughen-up/focus many mixes and so far the known steering components of A314 include - betanol, androstenone and P83. If P75 was present, we may have the original 5-molecule formula and the reason for its daunting nature staring us in the face? Do any of these crop-up in IS/a?
Hahaha fell off my chair when I read your comment, hilarious! theres me thinking my name’s bond , James bond but instead I am uncle funky If I knew how to steer rone effectively that would be awesome. I do like the idea of carrying p75 to repel unsavoury characters rather than trying to go ott on rone. Hmmm will test out p75 , rone and some nols combos and see where that gets me. The aim is to repel people and have them run for the hills
Leave out the nols if you want intimidation. All they do is soften your mix.
Straight-up, if you want a very dark, scary intimidating mix, try IJ, P75 and A314 in hefty quantities, paired with a fair bit of attitude - The IJ/P75 will give you an aggressive, pushy, edgy and dominating vibe, whilst the A314 will add substance, status and a feeling that you are really able to back-up everything the mix promises.
Expect trouble wearing it but every time I’ve had some hard-case start on me, they have always chickened-out when I turned the headlights back on them and given my undivided attention.
Its not the James Bond vibe though - I’d more liken it to the Jack Carter vibe - Check out the original film with Michael Caine, not the awful Stallone remake. Hard as nails, gritty, rough and thoroughly nasty. Its fun to let that side out to play occasionally, esp if you find a woman who is into it!
Actually, my favorite power-trip is about 10 of -eNone with 20 P75, mixed. Keeping the 75 higher than None more than quells violence from men. What it does is turn a room into a total sexual pressure cooker. People feel the None vibe, but women and men act differently to the 75, which turns people into spinning magnetic poles. At a distance, couples distance each other. Women and men combat each other…but not you. TAC is the best way to tame this beast–about 20 mcg but no less than 10, in solution. However, add P102, and it’s an OD. P102 is an intensifier for mones. I think the mix needs P83 or P74, but, if I can get it right, should be killer. It needs pull.
Given the origins of the forum and JV Kohl’s theories, if I made A314, I’d want different kinds of androsterone from different labs along with maybe some closely related compounds. Androsterone metabolism gives you some interesting reactions (with reductase enzyme). Androsterone is ubiquitous, but 75 is not and the spectra of eRone conjugates will not be. No two labs will be twice the same. There are 12 benzodiazapines that vary only by their half-life, more or less. Same with barbiturates. But a generic version of a molecule isn’t the same always as one made in a foreign lab or a patent drug made under contract. Some MD’s only want the trade name, because it’s more pure and has better quality in clinical use.
When I look here, I seem a spectrum of 4 putatives from 84-87 in trace quantities. What are they? I haven’t researched. Wouldn’t surprise if they were 4 derivatives of the same mone the chemist came up with. He said, “Look what’s up in the lab rubbish bin. Have a go.” I read somewhere P86 might have been to do with regulatory issues. They’d maybe have been cousins of androsterone.
Thanks and looks like I might want to finally go out there and get some IJ. it is the only instant I never tried… let the games begin. in the meantime I am dropping my to go of rone for some p75 to deal with the less savoury characters.
I am going to revert back to my a314 and ammo daily work mix this week and on Friday evening a few sprays of my very precious p130 will be added to the mix to bring out the rockstar in me.
IJ will be experimented with in June but it is on my to do list and thanks for suggesting it
We must have a archival pheromonelogist unearthing these ancient threads. Thanks for the nostalgic rush! I’ll have to buy some more A314. Haven’t used any for a year or two.
If I knew how to steer rone effectively that would be awesome. I do like the idea of carrying p75 to repel unsavoury characters rather than trying to go ott on rone. Hmmm will test out p75 , rone and some nols combos and see where that gets me. The aim is to repel people and have them run for the hills
