acyd's discoveries & contemplations

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Journals
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If I’ve noticed anything about Instant Honesty, it’s that it’s effects are strong, but visually, very subtle. I noticed a few strangers putting their palms on my back, the way a familiar counselor, or teacher would.

If anything, maybe the other players have more internal chatter. I know I’ve found myself second guessing certain decisions based on what I felt would have been the more ‘honest’ choice with myself. Which might translate to other players bluffing less. Following the logic of, I could bluff this, but in my heart, I know it’s just not a good hand, so I’ll fold it.

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Thanks Phya… I’d have to say that’d fit pretty closely with what went on last night. It was like he’d been a mate of mine for ages already, yet last night was the first time I’d ever met them. Was interesting too with the A314, the IS and the IO the support I got from the people watching when there were only 2 and 3 players left. When there were still 5 or 6 left the other person who got a lot of support (though not quite as much) was the guy sitting next to me who was the last one left before I managed to win.

One thing I’ve noticed too about the A314 is you have to be a bit careful applying it in hot weather. Its been averaging 30c here for the last week and after that first drop the second drop comes out heaps quick if you’re not quick enough.

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Acid, do you play in casinos or house games?

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Just play in a few of the local free tournaments, National Poker League and Super League Poker. Don’t like playing for money, takes the fun out of it when ya just want to play for fun.

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You..don’t..play for money? Gasp Well cool. I wonder how the effects of pheromones intensify around money games. Money can pull some strong emotions out of people. I imagine confusion and indecisiveness would be increased, or perhaps much more aggressive betting, leading to the premature knockout of a player.

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Week 5 - Friday
21:30 - 1x Drop of Ammo behind the ears, 1x spray of Ammo to the neck, 1x Spray of Ammo to the side of the neck, 2x sprays IFM to the back of the head, 2x Sprays Shine (x2) to the top of the head, 2x Sprays Instant Openness to the wrists.

Self Effects - Nothing really noticible except my lips were dry and I was a bit thirsty.

Nightclub - Sharky’s - 30 Minutes after Application - Started off when I arrived, got a drink and went for a cigarette, went outside. One guy struck up a convo pretty quick that I didn’t even know. Went back inside and 2 promo girls for smirnoff vodka came up to me and started talking to me, they seemed really nice but I think it was more their job than the pheros so hard for me to tell there. Went up to the bar, cute-ish girl starts talking to me, chatted while I waited for my drink… Went outside for another smoke, chatting to a heap of people, the 2 promo girls spoke to me again, one asked if my lip piercing hurt (I get that question a lot since I started using pheros), and told em it didn’t hurt as much as my nape piercing. :stuck_out_tongue: That got the convo going a while. Went and chatted to one of my friends for a bit, went inside and leaned against the pool table by the dance floor when I noticed this group of women dancing slowly getting closer and closer, though they weren’t looking I’m guessing it was subconscious. My friend noticed this, and I had this feeling they were effected my the pheros, and just to freak out my friend I told him “bet ya when I walk away from the table they won’t stick around anymore.” I walked away and they walked away pretty much a moment later (they were girls who are in a group who I don’t like much so I wasn’t keen to chatting them up) they walk off.
Night went on, no DIH looks, no real IOI other than the girl at the bar and her and a friend looking at me for what was almost a DIH effect for a moment outside in the smoking area. Some guy went rather agro when I asked what was going on pushing in front of me in the lineup to go out for a cigarette, but when I apologized later on he was fine, because he didn’t realize how the whole line up thing worked. :confused: Got my photo taken with one of the absolutely gorgeous promo girls who seemed to really stick around me until it was time for her to leave with the other promo girls.

Week 5 - Saturday
22:00 - 2x Sprays Instant Shine (x2) to the top of the head, 2x sprays of Instant Female Magic to the back of the Head, 1x Spray of Ammo to the chest, 1x spray of ammo to the neck, 2x sprays of Instant Openness to the forearms.

Self Effects - Nothing really noticable.

Outside Oceans Nightclub - 20 Minutes after Application - Chatted with this guy for a bit (was trying to find out if my friends were there yet but the place wasn’t even open). Even though I’d never met the guy before in my life, acted like he’d known me for a while.

Sharky’s - 30 Minutes after Application - I spend too much time at these places. Caught up with one of my friends while I was there, and found out later that guys kept asking her if I was her boyfriend. :stuck_out_tongue: Guy behind the bar was a bit chatty, and was chatting with this other guy outside who seemed pretty respectful, didn’t want to seem like he was intruding on me. One of my friend’s friends was pretty ill and they took her home, no other real IOI’s.

Oceans - 3 Hours after Application - Arrived where my friends were, and the only real IOI here was from a girl while I was waiting in line. Didn’t get anything else, but found that I was annoyed a lot by a few guys. It was almost like they were standing around me and following me around a lot to try and improve their stature. Nothing else happened here.

My thoughts so far:
#34 - Crowded smaller nightclubs seem to be better for spreading the pheros than larger, more spread out nightclubs.
#35 - Its possible that when the lost sheep guys that follow you around trying to improve their status, if they aren’t of a certain level may actually bring your own status down.
#36 - Predicting people’s behaviour to your mates (like what happened at the pool table by the dance floor) can improve your status and respect if you do it right and they don’t know about the pheros! :smiley:

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Acid, you’ve always got good observations during your tests. It should be very helpful when you look back on them.

With #35 though, I wonder about that. Does a ‘lower’ status male being around you really bring you down? I know that sometimes females will take along another female that isn’t as attractive, to make herself look more attractive. So couldn’t it follow that a ‘high’ status male might have ‘lower’ status males around?

If having ‘lower’ status females/males around effects your status at all, I would think that it depends on how you approach the ‘lower’ status person.

If you are catering to them, then no matter how ‘high’ status you might look, you are acting like a ‘lower’ status individual. However, if you are simply doing your thing, and they happen to be following you like lost sheep (I like that term btw. :smiley:) then I would think that would only increase your status. That guy’s so cool, he’s got girls and guys following him around. And if it’s a guy that, by all rights, could be off talking to girls and having them follow him around, but is instead following you around, even better!

Also, it depends on the values of the viewer. Let’s say I see a hot girl with a not so hot girl. Let’s even say ugly, she’s just that unattractive. Well, hot girl acts really friendly to keep ugly girl around her. Whenever ugly girl tries to get more comfortable with her status as hot girls’ friend, hot girl will spite the ugly girl to keep her at bay, signifying that her use is simply to provide contrast to her own beauty. If that girl were truly confident in her beauty, she wouldn’t need contrast, she would shine just as brightly on her own, and suppose someone were to tag along that wasn’t as bright. The two of them together would only make her and her friend shine brighter.

Same would go for a guy. Does that guy keep wimps and lame dudes around him so he can dominate them to feel better? Or is that guy comfortable enough with himself to know that it doesn’t matter who’s around him, it’s him running the show.

The best leaders in history have always had the trust of their following. Ghandi’s following could have been considered ‘low’ status, depending on which status quo you compared them to. But that hardly diminished Ghandi’s presence, and if anything, Ghandi’s embracing of the ‘low’ status followers, only magnified his presence and influence.

The biggest, best magnets attract everything and everyone and holds on to them just as tightly as any other object. (Welllllll sort of..)

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Week 7 - Thursday
16:00 - 2 Drops of A314 (1 behind the ears, 1 to the neck), 2 sprays of Instant Openness (x2) to the wrists, 1 spray of Instant Shine to the Hair

Self Effects - Nothing noticable.

Poker - 30 minutes after application - Tonight was my first night hosting poker (my new job) so was a pile of nerves even with the A314, though I’m pretty sure with it’s whole ‘confidence’ thing it helped a bit. Kept cool enough to survive the night. Got the shakes from the nerves while dealing on the final table~! :stuck_out_tongue:

Mate’s House - 6 hours after application - Got asked to a private game. Managed to survive without rebuys, everyone seemed to very relaxed and make lots of jokes though not having been there before I can’t say if it was the pheromones, was a very pleasant night. Never got home til 2am.
**
Week 7 - Saturday
21:30 - 1x Drop A314 behind the ears, 2x sprays of Instant Shine (x2) to the hair, 1x spray of Instant Shine to the face, 2x Drops of IFM to the back of the head, 2 sprays of Instant Openness (x2) to the wrists, 1x Spray of Instant Openness to the neck, 1x Spray of Ammo to the chest, 1x spray of Ammo to the neck, 1x Spray of Instant honesty to the crux of the elbows and rubbed together.
**
Self Effects - Stinging eyes (only because I opened my eyes too soon after spraying IS on my face), felt really relaxed a bit dazey.

Sharky’s Nightclub - 45 minutes after application - Went in here and the place was PACKED because of the easter long weekend. Couldn’t even get to the bar to get a drink, lots of people pushing their way in to get drinks, decided to go to the other nightclub instead.

Ocean’s Nightclub - 90 minutes after application - Got there just as they were opening up, so it was pretty quiet at first. Didn’t have to pay at the door, so that was pretty kewl and got a free egg. Made a few new friend’s here (waiting for them to add me to their myspace thing). BEST thing happened, one guy who used to give a lot of crap to me at school offered a challenge on the 8-ball tables while I was just messing around with my friend. I dunno whether it was from the pheromones or what, but I’d never played so good at 8-ball before in my life. He managed to get 3 down and I got a bit worried but I was able to work it and not give him a chance to pot any and sunk all mine and the 8. Hell that felt so good.
Felt pretty relaxed and at ease the rest of the night, was pretty open. Didn’t have any real indications of interest other than this 1, and I’d really like to hear what people think about this.
There’s this goth girl who lives in town who is VERY out there, you couldn’t miss her if ya tried. Anyway, she was dressed up in a bunny costume, and one of my mates I’d met was getting me to take photos of him with the diff peoples in different costumes (I don’t know how elephants, gorillas or penguins fit in with easter), and so I decided to get him to take a photo of me with the goth girl in the bunny costume (the mascot kind of costume, not the sexy kind of costume). She put her arm around me while my mate took the photo, thanked her, and when I got up and walked away I could really feel her eyes on me, it was unlike anything I’d ever felt before, very intense, very weird. The feeling stunned me a bit, didn’t even think to look around, but I could feel it was her. Totally weird. Never had anything happen like that before.

My thoughts so far:
#37 - Eyes can be felt from behind.
#38 - Ignore thought #35 unless that person has a REALLY bad reputation, but good in most other cases.
#39 - Look for cute girls in cute costumes for cute photos.
#40 - A spray of Instant Openness under the chin seems to really help beat shyness.

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My apologies to everyone who has been following my journal. There has been a few hiccups in life, as well as some unexpected computer technical problems that has made it tricky to post, but hopefully I’ll be able to post back to my regular frequency again.

News on the poker front… Where I was playing once a week on a thursday night, I’m now making $100 on those nights as a host. It sucks that I don’t get to play, but its pretty easy money. The hardest part is carrying the tables from the store-room.

I’ve noticed something that, I don’t know if others are finding or have found or will find, but the effect of pheromones is definitely accumulative. Since my last post, my respect factor has crept up just a little bit each week (noticably) and people who wouldn’t have really bothered with me much before are striking up some pretty awesome conversations. Though I haven’t had much success with the ladies yet, I’m not ‘too’ worried. Still quite pleased with the results.

As a hypnotist I read a post here somewhere about how a whole group passed a suggestibility test while they were wearing A314 and spaceland. Definitely looking at getting some spaceland, but will probably wait til my next order is due.

I think my to-go of Instant Shine leaked in my pocket. I had more left than my to-go of TUTH and at the end of the night it was totally empty. Only 3 sprays can’t do that, so was a bit miffed, but at least I got the proper bottle of the stuff. :smiley:

Looking forward to posting some more. Again, apologies to everyone who had been reading my testing journal entries, and I hope to remedy that one soon.

Happy moning! :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yea Acid, we’re totally distraught that you weren’t regularly posting. Here we were thinking, “Damn, we were spent all that time, giving feedback and this dude doesn’t say hi for 3 weeks?”

Just kidding. I’m sort of there right now. I’ve been using pheromones more or less everyday, but I just haven’t been writing about it as much because I’m busy out doing things. There’s a report on IS/IMF/IH/p79/mx203 cocktail that I’ve been meaning to write about. Last night was a good night with some mx100/IO traces and mostly IS.

I’m waiting for my next package to come in, then I’ll start doing some more day to day testing. Anyway, keep it up, there are tons of people who never post much of substance at all, let alone keep a journal so keep reporting, we all appreciate it.

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I don’t use my pheromones every day. That’d be wasting them and they’re just far too valuable (both in cost and what they do) to waste them. Even a 5 minute trip down the street I won’t wear any, but if its a half hour appointment I’ll wear some coz I usually like to walk around for a little bit after. Just wondering what I can do to get them to work better in a nightclub environment. I definitely get more respect and the vibe is definitely accumulative, but trying to draw attention from the attractive ladies there. Though it’s probably the whole ‘male pattern blindness’ thing and I may not be noticing. Also working doing poker, especially being a thing where I gotta deal with people lots, has improved my confidence a bit. Anyway, here’s last night’s entry.

Week - Um… No idea. But a Thursday.
17:00 - 1x drop of A314 behind the ears, 1x drop of A314 on the sides of the neck, 2x sprays of instant honesty (x2) to the back of the hands, 2x sprays of Instant Openness between the wrists and elbows, and 2x sprays of IS (x2) to the hair.

Self Effects - Not really noticable, but I think its like having an injury (bad example but the only one I can think of) for a while or a piercing. Unless there’s a severe change in sensation, you don’t really notice it as much. Its sorta like what happens in factories with strong smells, smelling them so much you tend not to really smell it much at all, aka Factory Fatigue.

Poker - Well, this is my 4th week hosting poker, and while I’m finding a few things a little tricky (moving people can be a real bitch) things are getting easier. One woman has stopped trying to conn me into extra chips since, but I think thats more just coz I stood my ground. One girl (a new one, quite attractive) would keep looking away when I’d look down at their table. Definitely an IOI but I wasn’t sure if the guy she was with was just a friend or a girlfriend, so I didn’t worry too much about it.
One of the girls working behind the bar (who’s been a total bitch to me before at the nightclubs here) actually gave me a smile and was nice to me. And there were LOTS of people from an event in the other half of the venue coming over and asking lots of questions about Texas Holdem poker. Some of their questions got a bit stupid, but they kept asking the same question over and over and over again even after I gave them the answer. A lot of people too around the final table watching where I was dealing, but that usually happens most weeks. Just a few more than usual this week.

Looking forward to going out Saturday. The nightclub I’ve changed to is getting really busy on Saturday nights, especially since the other one so many people are getting the irits with. The manager quit just after new-years because he was fed up with his bosses and how they wanted him to run it. Anyway, sure you don’t need to hear that. But a good report to come, I hope.

My Thoughts So Far (including a few missing from my absence):
#41 - People can sound less intelligent (or bring it to the surface) when under the influence of alcohol and instant openness.
#42 - Indications of Interest can be fun, interesting. Even if they’re the only things happening.
#43 - One should keep a tape recorder on them while wearing Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. :stuck_out_tongue:
#44 - Pheromones in the right mix can certainly focus and settle the mind in any game that utilizes the mind. 8-ball is a good example (I’ve played like a pro since using pheros).
#45 - You can talk about nearly anything with someone with the right mix of pheros if you keep the conversation interesting and fun.
#46 - With the police walking by my group at the nightclub, my pheromones produced one person to openly (and loudly) respond with “good thing the sniffer dogs aren’t here, coz my ass is full of crack.” :smiley: And that was WAY out of character for them. But people were in fits of laughter from it!!!

That’s about it for now. SOOOOOOO looooking forward to trying out Spaceland. Wheeee! :roll_eyes:

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Week 10? - Friday
21:30 - 1x drop A314 behind the ears, 1x spray of Ammo to the neck, 1x spray of Instant Honesty (x2) to the back of each hand, 1x spray of Instant Openness to each wrist, 2x sprays of IFM to the back of the head, 2x Sprays of Instant Shine (x2) to the Hair, 1x Spray of Instant Shine (x2) to the face.

Oceans Nightclub - 23:00 - Found that my mate drives like an idiot when I get in the car, he said he only drives agro when I’m in the car and doesn’t really know why. Is sorta funny really. Was a pretty awesome night I reckon. Was doing stuff most of the night. One older woman was heaps friendly (though she is normally) and my mate ended up making out with an older woman. Nothing really happened for me though.

Week 10 - Saturday
22:30 - 1x Spray of Ammo to the neck, 1x spray of Instant Honesty (x2) to the back of each wrist, 1x spray of Instant Openness to each wrist, 1x spray of Instant Shine (x2) to the crux of each arm, 2x sprays of Instant Shine (x2) to the hair and 1x spray of Instant Shine (x2) to the face. 1x Spray of Instant Honesty (x2) to each wrist.

Oceans Nightclub - 23:00 - Was pretty quiet when we got there. Few people there I knew, was VERY open and chatty and happy the whole night. I don’t remember everything too well coz I was quite drunk. One of my mates said this real cutie really went out of her way to move into a better place to get a better look at me and check me out and I saw her in my peripheral vision but being drunk didn’t pay much attention. Been the only time that’s really happened I’m aware of since wearing pheros that I’m aware of.
Was heaps happy and jokey and fun though the whole night. Was a good night all in all, I guess.

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Heya Acid, just wanted to let you know that I was enjoying your reports.Thanks!

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No worries. I’ll keep them coming as things happen. If anyone has any questions on my experiences and/or suggestions for stuff for me to try either with the pheromones themselves or for the layout of my postings, feel free to post. I’m always open to constructive criticisms and there’s no such thing as a stupid question.

I’m really enjoying trying them out. Really starting to get a feel for the subtle differences between some of the different pheromones, for example, including A314 in a social mix or excluding it and how it effects me and those around me when I include or exclude it.

And if this stuff keeps accumulating my social status, just scary to think how it’ll go in the future. I have to admit, I’m looking forward to trying it out in an environment where ‘no-one’ knows me, compared to an environment where people have sorta seen me around but never really bothered a lot with me before, again to see the variation in results and how different situations etc can differ.

One thing I’ve found happen. I’m not really being bothered by things that go bad and seem to be turning them around to create a laugh when they do initially get a non-positive reaction. An example, a girl on Saturday came up and hugged one of my mates all friendly. “Where’s mine?” I asked, to which she gave me a weird look, I just said jovially “no, not from you.” and gave my mate a hug and I heard her laugh (the fun unexpected didn’t see that coming and caught her off guard sorta laugh).

So yeah, definitely got me hooked here on pheromones.

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Woohoo!!!

My next order is on the way… Yaaaay!

What I have so far:

  • A314

  • Ammo

  • Instant Shine (x2)

  • Instant Honesty (x2)

  • Instant Openness (x2)

  • Instant Female Magic

  • Pherlure
    On the way I’ve got…

  • Pre-Release Dirty

  • Turn Up The Heat (My to-go bottle died in my pocket)

  • Spaceland
    They should be here by next weekend, looking forward to trying out the Dirty and Spaceland (though probably not at the same time, although that could be interesting). :stuck_out_tongue:

Anyway. One of my mates, my ‘wingman’ as some I’ve heard say here, is one of only 2 people who knows about my pheromone collection, although he hasn’t seen it yet. I can only imagine how he’ll react when he sees my little box filled with pheromone bottles! Haha.
Did I say my other friend told me off for wearing them because she gets too turned on around me when I wear them! :smiley:

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Way to go with the hug joke. That’s good quick thinking on your feet. Also, you’re comfortable enough to hug your friend.

It’s always exciting getting new pheromones. I sometimes get disappointed though since I end up ordering putatives or mxs and think this is what I waited for? Damn, not as exciting as I thought.

Then I get a hit and I think “SOOO WORTH IT”. Hehe.

Enjoy and let us know what happens.

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Well, what gave me the confidence to say it in the first place was the fact I had that backup plan in place, so that regardless which way things went I had a win. And it worked out. That night was the best I’ve ever had, and since getting my pheromones each night only gets better.

I totally agree, you put it on and go out, and until ya get that first hit you wonder if it was even worth it but as soon as you see it, you never regret it a moment more.

My reason for ordering spaceland, as a hypnotist, is something I read here that rather intrigued me about people who are more suggestive than others, how maybe that suggestibility is more of a ‘state of mind’ for that moment rather than the actual person, although I’m certain that would influence their suggestibility as well. So many sites mention this ‘suggestibility’ as being an absolute, either a person is more suggestible or they’re not, but since reading that I don’t think it’s quite as absolute as that.

I think it’s fascinating how much something so simple as pheromones can influence and change us in the long run, when you consider all the behaviors they can influence that can develop into habit. Then when you think about all the interactions we make with people, from our parents, to our friends, to the person who serves us when we buy our groceries, and then those perceptions we create around someone, those first impressions, how their personality may effect us, it really is amazing to think how much of a part pheromones play in those emotions that shape each situation, from our own pheromones to those around us. And most of us (except the people who ‘have’ done a bit more than dabble in pheromone products) aren’t aware, don’t know how such a huge part and effect they can have on our whole life, especially when they effect our social status, our job, our family interactions, our relationships… Fascinating. Often wonder how certain situations (before my discovering pheromones) may have panned out had I known of androtonics back then.

Well, I’d better leave it there. Intriguing feeling having a small fan-base out there. :stuck_out_tongue: Thanks Phya for your comments and questions, and very much appreciated. Helps me to keep up the posting knowing there are people out there who are reading my reports.

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Kewlie. My next order is on the way. WOOHOO~! Well, thats not why I’m posting.

Found a site last night that sells these designer colognes at bargain basement/avon prices. I ordered some Joop and some Cool Water. Never smelt Joop, but I’ve seen girls chase after guys just for wearing it. Later on I’ll also prolly get some CK Infinity and something else, maybe… I saved $150 by buying them off this site, so I can afford 3 or 4 designer label colognes. I’d been pinching my father’s colognes up until now, so glad I’ll actually have some of my own.

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I have to go, but I just wanted to add this real quick.

Charlie Munger : THE PSYCHOLOGY OF HUMAN MISJUDGMENT

That was originally linked by PheroQuirk and I thought it was a great link. I think you’ll find many relevant things. Especially ‘stress’ and its effects on suggestability.

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Week 11 - Thursday
17:30 - The Mix
3x drops A314 - Spread between the wrists, neck and behind the ears.
2x sprays Instant Shine (x2) to the hair.
2x sprays of Instant Openness to the back of the hands.
2x sprays of Instant Honesty to the wrists.

Self Effects - Felt cool, happy… Confident. Except when that bitch got too much and I had to get some air (read below).

17:45 - Poker
Got there and things went pretty good for a while. Was my first chance to play since I started hosting so had been really looking forward to it. Had a good feed and everything was pretty light and social, had 33 people playing (and a few others watching who were family & wives of players). Was doing okay until after about 5 minutes of sitting at the table I started getting abused for ‘wearing sunglasses,’ by people who’ve just never played poker before.
For the first half hour or so I was able to let it slip… I let one of the other league directors (who was also playing) know and he said he’d sort it out. After the break was over there was only about a 5 minute silence and the abuse started all over again, and it just started to get annoying. Enough that it put me off my game and I was out before long after the first break. Thankfully this person is a regular and more than likely won’t be seen around again.

23:00 - Friend’s House for Poker
Thankfully I had been asked by one of the regulars who was a friend of a woman there whose son was abused by this woman for being underage and the friend of a guy who was abused by this woman for preparing the deck on the bad-beats table for 7-up (all the cards between 2 and 6 are taken out of the deck, makes it quite interesting and a lot more fun) at the earlier poker tournament.
The night went on and on, and it was a lot of fun. People were joking around lots and having fun, sometimes in fits of laughter, sometimes with the giggles, and sometimes friendly cursing at someone for constantly winning (one guy in particular :stuck_out_tongue:)…
I noticed the same thing about this Instant Honesty and Instant Openness. When a comment was made about someone being someone’s bitch, and I said I was no-one’s bitch yet, single… One guy said “oh I got one you can have, if you like” to which I replied, without even thinking “nah, I don’t want one I have to blow up.” Everyone at the whole table cracked up, and needless to say the whole night was like that, and lots of fun. We were playing poker til nearly 5 in the morning and were going to go to the dawn service for Anzac day but most of us were just TOOOO tired…

My Thoughts So Far:
#47 - A combination of Instant Openness and Instant Honesty (with or without other pheros) can bring out someone’s true nature, even when that person it a total bitch who needs a good kick up the backside.
#48 - In the right company, Instant Openness and Instant Honesty can turn a good night into a GREAT night.
#49 - Smartmones not having A314 and being able to fill all my pheromone needs in one place… scary scary scary SCARY!!!