Innate Phero Ramblings

Time:Friday 14th of March '08

Place: Irish Pub

Pheromones applied:

4x25mcg P83 (unscented)

4X25mcg of P93 (unscented)

1x spray 'o Ammo

1x spray 'o Shine

1 drop 'o A314

1 drop 'o TAA

1x spray Honesty

250mL of White Rum pre-drink in my belly.

My best friends Bday was teh night before but celebration was in order the following. Me and my cohorts were sauced yet felt real energetic. I assume this be exposure to the application. But I no scientist.

There was about 20 of us total. Somebody had ordered my best friend a muff diver. For the dense, it’s a cup containing a shot that is buried in whip cream. Ideally you are supposed to shove you face into it to get at the shotglass. This somehow mimmicks licking vagina, but I digress. After he had got at the shotglass we had a projectile whip cream fight.

Both time and drinks progress and we end up playing spin the bottle with the ladies at the table. Never played it before in my life. But it’s nice to know that such a thing could occur in adulthood. Ladies had no troubles making out with each other if the beer bottle pointed at another chick.

If us gents landed on another man he would just end up spinning next. However one case of faggottry did occur. It was most fun being able to sample all the girls lips in one sitting. After being single again for a couple weeks, it was much needed.

People drinking alot upon spaceland exposure, exponentially decreased or entirely deceased alcohol consumption. Worthy of more testing at a later time. Theorize the amount Alpha Androstenol made them feel more drunk then what they actually were. Much like when it intensified high from subject having smoked cannabis.

I can’t praise A314 enough. If you don’t have it, the only question you need ask yourself is why you haven’t purchased it yet.

A314 @ my newest occupation has been most fabulous. Further proof of the everlasting first impressions it can create.

@ my 2ndary occupation it has proved to be pleasant as well. A mixture of 1 drop A314 and 1 drop TAA on Tuesday. Most candid reaction at my table. Was seated with two elderly Jamaican men, a younger woman from the Carribean, and a gentlemen from Barbados.

Laughs all around and upbeat conversation about different countries and such. One said Jamaican fellow was quite seemingly reactive to the TAA. He seemed like an upbeat easy going fellow but he couldn’t stop laughing.

He seemed so contempt and happy with everything, even the bad. If only more individuals could be such.

Looks lonely here. :slight_smile:

You’ve got a good start going. It looks like you’ve already got a lot of experience..so I don’t think you need my opinions. :stuck_out_tongue:

But I’ll be chiming in every now and then.

My bday snuck on by unnoticed to the pheroforum. Excellent. Bday was a blast, it was some odd number of days ago, I could rant on about it but lets try to be short about it.

but the quick and dirtay:

1X A314
3xshine
1xAmmo
1xp83

Some nice hits in Blues bar. Mostly an older crowd. I ended up inadvertedly wingin’ for a friend and was dancing around with some gal that turned out to be 45. Before that I began talking to this gal that I guesstimate was late 20s early 30s.

Great thing I know to remain neutral and ask the all important question “How do you all know each other?” Turns out she was married so I remained socialite to the group and we all talked for half an hour. Because of the golden rule of neutrality and the important “How do you all know each other?” question, I didn’t end up looking like a sleazy wife stealer and get my ass kicked :slight_smile:

This entry is gonna get really long winded, but I promise you it is a must read.

Thursday April3rd I was back at teh skidbar my application was:

1 drop A314
1 Ammo
1 Shine
1 P83 @ 25mcg
1 IFM
1 IH

A314 was at the jawline, everything else was on the neck. Yeah even the IFM, my paranoia of it making me downer and worries of negative male attention have made me weary of using it but I should use it more often.

Ended up sitting at a table with this chick and a dude that turned out to be her brother. My friend was with me so he got stuck talking to her brother the whole time. It was great, they had differing views so I didn’t need to win him over. All I had to do was not set off the douche bag detector.

Things went well and we exchanged numbers and she said we could hangout saturday. I was down.

Friday April 4thCasino

Pheros used

1 drop A314
1 spray IH

Off to the poker room with my friend. I bought in with a $100, first hand at the first table I sit at I win. Then I get a candid reaction from the guy who lost “Count on me to lose to a fuckin retard.”

“Count on you to get greedy and lose to a guy pretending to be retarded.” I retorted. The table my friend was at opened so I headed on over. It’d take too long to describe how the hands played out and this is a phero journal not poker journal.

More or less I was up at $225 then I got greedy and lossed $70, then settled on a $55 profit. I felt really tense at the table and I’m sure with my signature it just radiated off onto everybody.

Saturday April 5th: skidbar and 2 nightclubs
1 drop A314
1 drop TAA
1x Ammo
1x Shine
1x P83 25mcg

I got pretty shittered and I ended up inventing a new opener. I’m not big on the whole pickup thing, but there are useful principles and elements. Canned material definitely isn’t one of them.

It’s called the grill cheese opener. "Me and my friend were having a debate/argument/whatever and we’re interested in others input. What makes a better grill cheese sandwich? Traditional pan fried method, or George Foreman grill?

Chick who I exchanged digits with wanted to go back to skidbar so I didn’t care. Got to spend my poker winnings hehe. I tried the opener out on her but given the context it wasn’t exactly opening but making bizarre conversation on a paradox. Reactions were positive.

Then for shits and giggles I started asking people not for pickup but as if I was just there for the life and death answer of which way is better to make the sandwich. People oddly enough were engaged by the question, and it’s very promising.

So if you’re feeling Ballsy PUAs, try it out. If people say things like “who cares?” or disagree with your method you can neg/tool 'em and say “Guess you’re not much of a cook.” You can also DHV if you know how to cook and can reveal this info in a non bragging way. I promise you somebody is gonna end up bringing home a babe and they are gonna cook grill cheese sandwiches both ways to find out lol. :smiley:

So me and chick drink at bar and things went well. Her gay friend was there seemed nice enough and harmless. Later on I use the pisser and when I came back she was gone. Her friend was still there and he said finish this beer and we’ll go meet her. So we go to the nightclub and he couldn’t get in but I could.

It was this horrid nightclub that played house music. I felt really out of my element in this place. Chick was no where to be found, her phone was shut off. Payed cover to get in so wtf I thought. Might as well find a means to enjoy myself. Felt no desire to really approach any chicks.

Everybody was fucked up on drugs, you have to be to genuinely enjoy or appreciate house music. This chick that was with her bf noticed me like a fish out of water. She was clearly fucked on E but she helped my inner bruised ego. I talked to her and explain the situation and all she had to say was “Aww… you’re a real attractive guy and you can get any chick you want. All you need to do is get into the middle of that dance and dance.”

Seeing as how everyone aside from being drunk, were on other mind bending chemicals. So even if I would look stupid dancing it didn’t matter. So I more or less tried danced around like I was fucked on something and I fit in perfectly. After about 45 minutes or so of this dancing shit I decided to eject teh venue.

Now right beside this nightclub is another nightclub… of the lesbian variety. Chick who took off is there with some other lesbians. I started talking to her and then a fight broke out and there was a lesbian brawl in the street. I was talking to her and her friends being all casual. They then smoked some weed and she went back inside. I was talking with one of her friends and I was like “She went inside I’ll never be able to get in there.”

Lesbyfriend told me “Don’t worry, I know the bouncer I can get you in.” This massive butch woman was the bouncer and with Lesbyfriends help I was inside a Lesbian Nightclub. More or less what I thought it would be. Not as glitsy as the club scenes they have in that show “The L word”, but more less what I predicted.

There was your really hot feminine chicks and your boyish/bull dyke variety. More or less it should’ve felt awkward being some creepy pervert straight guy, but I just found it extremely funny. Here I am this dude in a lesbian nightclub perving out on some hot chicks getting all kinds of freaky on the dance floor. So chick that had took off on me was clearly living a double life.

She came over to the table and opened up to me “I have a bf, and I’m kind of gay”

:open_mouth::open_mouth::open_mouth::open_mouth::open_mouth::open_mouth:

Gay part I got obviously, but the bf thing was the curveball. Just when I think crazier shit couldn’t happen. She then had the nerve to tell me “You’re ruining my lesbian street cred.” “That’s the idea.” I said most sheepishly. I also wish I had applied or had IFM with. It would’ve been a very interesting environment to test out in.

After I got my fill of perving out, I walked over to lesbyfriend, thanked her, and told her it was nice meeting her and left. I’m still in shock, awe, and amazement. Congratulations if you read this far without scrolling through everything :smiley:

Pheroah, I’m not sure what influence the pheromones had on this whole deal but it’s one of the most entertaining posts I’ve read in a while. Too bad about the chick, I was kinda hoping you’d end up in a threesome for all your trouble. I just had a massively funny thought, going into a lesbian bar wearing about 4 drops A314 and a hefty dose of Raw Power LOL.

Yeah it would’ve been nice but essentially given her emotional circumstances it wouldn’t happen. She was living a double life and I ended up making them both collide. Me being inside that place made her feel real embarrassed and awkward, but because of her deceit I could care less. There was one other guy in there and he was with his girlfriend and they were clearly trying to get a 3way going.

This experienced hasn’t left me as sour as one might think. Maybe another day:

As for what role pheromones played, they assisted me in attracting a real crazy woman. I found it’s alot more fun recapping what I was wearing then just describe what happened. Instead of just describing things that I think I could attribute to pheromones.

Righto got down to testing MX252 which was a gift from the lovely Jasmin.

I wore:
1xMX252
1xTUTH
1xShine

Environments: Ladyfriend’s house & a bar

It was my lady friends Bday so I payed her a visit. We’re strictly friends and have been for years. A couple of her friends were there as well and we drank martinis and ate sushi. MX252 strikes me as some elaborate complex social mix. I only say elaborate and complex because when it was available for sale it had quite the price tag on it. I say social mix because it felt very open and social.

I told them about the messed up saturday night I had. They told me that they were at the same Lesbian nightclub a week before. One of Lady friend’s friends had some lesbian friends that had invited them out. Neither of them are bi or les and I’m quite inclined to believe them when they say such.

Once it was time to leave for the bar, one of lady friend’s friends took off. We ended up at the bar and were conversing with some of the band members gig’in that night. The 2nd act had finished and the headliner was coming up.

Lady friend and friend had early mornings today so they split. I had approached a 3 set of chicks. One of them had a cane with her. I asked her if the pimp cane belonged to her. She nodded. I then asked her “You aren’t crippled right? Cause then I’d feel like a real asshole.”

She was all like “Ah no, House has a pimp cane, I got a pimp cane.” Introduced myself and we were talkin about the bands I asked them how they all knew eachother. One of 'em was seeing the frontman of the headliner, and the other two were single.

I decided to be more chill and I actually told them about the crazy gal and the Lesbian nightclub. They were most intrigued. I would make eye contact with each of them cycling through to make sure I kept their attention. In a non creepy fashion of course, cause some guys are clueless.

The headliner hit the stage so I just enjoyed the show. They were dancin around snapping pictures. I made sure not to be their picture taking monkey, and they photographed me haha. I talked to them for a bit after the show was over and then I took off.

I remained neutral because I know I will see them again if I decide to see band again and I can go in again as a familiar friend with rapport if I desire to do so.

Been a couple weeks but I’ve more to add.

Lastnight @ a live music lounge:

1x IFM to back of neck
Drop of A314 to jawline
1x Ammo
1x Shine
1x P79 @ 7.5mcg concentration
1X P83 @ 25mcg concentration

Wasn’t sure whether it was me or androstadienone but I felt pretty downer. This mix seems rather promising. I met my friend there who was there with his GF. Lots of noticable IOI’s from the females. My mind wasn’t there sadly, it’s a shitty feeling.

Anyways I think my friend and his gf were trying to set me up with his gf’s friend. She didn’t arrive until after I got there, and my buddy’s girl was on the phone with her after I got there. Doesn’t get much more obvious then that. I think this mix was quite explosive. At least it proved to be for my friend and his gf.

They were all over each other and suddenly they disappeared. This left me time to get acquainted with friend’s GF’s Friend. I love to make these confusing. After 15 minutes of uneasy chatter I got up to use washroom. I find my friend in there and he tells me how him and his girlfriend just had sex in the women’s washroom. Totally uncharacteristic of them both, and I think the mix set them off for “Take me now!” washroom sex haha.

At least someone benefitted from my phero cloud. We sat back down and we were all having a nice laugh about it. We jokingly asked them if they were getting primed for round two. Friend’s GF’s Friend bought everybody drinks. As conversation progressed I asked her if she’d like to dance.

“You dance? Not many guys dance.” she asked me. “Well I’m not amazing at it, but I 'd like to think that I don’t suck at it either.” I says. So we got up and were dancing to the ska band. I could’ve worked up major Kino at this point and got all kinds of dirty dancin. But stupidly I didn’t. I was overly worried about a negative reaction, which in all likelyhood wouldn’t occur.

Friend & his GF joined us on the floor and Friend’s GF and her friend were slapping each other asses and were lewdly re-enacting Friend and Friend’s GF having sex in the bathroom. Eventually my Friend and his GF split leaving just the two of us.

Again, smacking myself in the forehead for not dirty dancin and remaining reserved and just holding her hand. After the show ended we grabbing a sub and she got her cab and I grabbed my bus. Didn’t even close, just exchanging a “It was nice meeting you.” and a hug goodbye.

Incredibly sloppy, but I’ll stop being self critical now. Don’t know when but I know I’ll end up seeing her again next time I’m out with my friend. Whether she’s interested or not, whose to say. Plenty of other babes out there.

Cool reports Pheraoh. Funny stories too…:slight_smile:

I guess you weren’t interested in your friend’s GF’s friend? Sounds like things could have gone well, especially with the atmosphere your friends were trying to create…

I was curious about your observation in the drug filled House music blasting club. Do you feel that there were increased interaction along with the usual effects of pheromones, or was there all completely unintended/unexpected behavior?

Hard to gauge. That would’ve been my first interactions with people on ecstasy. People get so euphoric and empathetic I’d need more solid data. But if it works anything like when people are drunk or high, then it’s safe to say they possibly would have a mild affect on interaction. By this time I believe the spray apps were close to beginning burnout.

Oh, your first interaction with people on E? Okay. Nevermind then. Heh, upon first impressions of an e-party, a pheromone user would think he’s getting hits left and right, when it’s probably just the E at work. But I wonder if in conjunction with pheromones and someone that know what usual E behavior is like would see increased..uh activity.

I guess I’ll just have to go try it.

Thanks Pheraoh. :slight_smile:

First interactions with people on E whilst wearing pheromones :smiley: Etards are a silly bunch.

Ah ha.. :wink: Yes they are.

Random thought: Spaceland smells like Windex.

I was digging through my phero cache a few days ago and decided to pull out 'ole P104. It came in the form of 2 MXs one of which was 2.5mcg and one of which was 12.5mcg. I opted for MX255 which I recall being the 12.5 concentration.

I remembered it’s somewhat mind altering attributes @ high concentrations. What really turned me off from experimenting with the molecule was it’s Pherogame scent. Last time I experimented with it I believe it was @ 37.5mcg. 3 sprays of MX255. I didn’t mess around much with MX254 as I didn’t see much from low doses. I’m debating whether I should dump out my MX254 into my MX255 so the concentration would be more effective and be put to better use.

I also ended up ruining my previous experiment by eating some bud brownie. But it was just how the course of events turned out. By the end of the night I was tripping out pretty good with some friends while watching the original Transformers movie.

I remember how I couldn’t stop talking and normally when I get that ripped I tend to clam up and go through horrid internal mental schizo dialogue with myself.

Where was I? Ah yes, few days I ago applied 1 spray of MX255 and teeny amount of A314. By teeny I mean just the residual amount that’s left on the plastic dropper from a previous application. I do this on occasions when I want just a faint little bit of the Alpha vibe.

This molecule seems to have sexual contexts in some situations and in others it just seems social. As I was walking down the street an old lady walking her dog saw me and stopped dead in her tracks. Almost as if she met eyes with satan, she immediately turned around and walked in the direction to which I was walking.

About 15 steps later a couple of chicks walked by and glanced in my direction. As they passed by a few seconds later one of the chicks turned her head around briefly in my direction to steal a gaze of me. As I ventured further I caught up to where the old lady was. Her dog was about to piss on a lawn but as soon as she took notice of me she began pulling the dog’s leash and it got quite infuriated. I know I’d be, not wanting to end up pissing on my furry leg as I’m being choked to death.

My next stop was the good 'ole liquor store. The place where dreams or lack thereof are quickly realized. So many forms yet all ultimately achieve the same effect. Which is what makes pheros more interesting. Mix liquor ya still get liquor mix pheros and who knows what you’ll end up with.

Yet they can both result in unexpected sexual encounters. I’ll end my insightful diatribe juxtaposition so as to appease the ignorant. As I was walking through the parking lot a dude got out of his grandiose SUV and looked at me funny.

I can probably attribute this as much to the plague known as wiggerdom as I could to this putative. I entered the store and grabbed 3X 710ml brewskies and approached the surprisingly sexy store clerk. She had a bit of banter with SUV wigger but as soon as it was my turn she went cold.

More or less the necessary dialogue to complete a transaction. The whole time I couldn’t help but wonder what sorts of crazy things she does with her lip ring. Brew was obtained and paid for and I arrived at my friend’s house.

There was a bunch of people over and when I walked in everybody was like “Whoa dude you’re here.” I could tell they were stoned and probably somewhat drunk but even then I wonder what commanded such a reaction from me merely walking through a doorway.

It almost seemed like they all snapped out of a sluggish retard stoned state. Things were more upbeat and lively. A friend of mine showed me this youtube video, I’ll bump the 'ole post funny youtube videos thread with it. It’s quite funny.

That’s about all worth mentioning. Well there was probably more mentioned than what was worth mentioning, but that’s how I recall.

Well I figured out what to do with the rest of my MX255 AKA P104 @12.5mcg. I took notice of my Freebie MX252 was leaking into my stash container. Since there was room in MX255, and they had the same pherogame scent I decided to put them together. For better or worse the two are now merged.

I’ve a nice opportunity to test drive it tonight, and report on it.

So I’ve been a little slacking in updating this. But my incarnation of MX255 seems quite promising. The social effects of 252 are quite interesting and the P104 spiked in there makes for some fun chatter. It’s almost like people get ripped in an upbeat manner and really let loose.

Friday I did and application of:

1 drop A314
1 drop TAA oil

Bunch of us grabbed some chow at a resto before hitting the club up. TAA really softens the A314 up and really makes you less intimidating. I brought my MX255 P104 concoction with me but saved it for when I got into the club.

When I got in the club I applied two sprays to my neck. It’s really amazing when you go into the environment before the mix and then you fire it off. Upon exposure people became way more animated, upbeat, and chatty. It was really effective in conjunction with A314 and the TAA application. The pheros were there workin the way they should’ve, but I wasn’t.

I couldn’t for the life of me bring myself to do an approach. Likely partially due to such a huge peer group being present, and just my head not being where it should be. It’s a piss off, but it’s more routed in an internal slump I’ve been in which I won’t discuss.

Verdict: If you got MX252 and MX255 mix 'em together half 'n half. Take one for the team and give it a try.

In todays installment: Pheromones and Psilocybe Cubensis.

Disclaimer: Drugs are bad mmmmkay?

Friend of mine had made a bulk order recently and a bunch of us ate them. At the time I was wearing an A314 application and a spray of Instant Shine. Amount of psilocybe everyone ingested ranged between 0.5 - 4 grams.

I had 0.5 which yielded a small body high, and the right amount of change consciousness. The ordinary could still be perceived as extraordinary, but not beyond the conventions of perceived reality. Usually I’d ingest anywhere between 1-2 grams but I was in a mood for low dose. The last time I used them I had gut rot which made the experience unpleasant. Didn’t need to get my stomach pumped luckily.

First thing I noticed was everyone stating how fast acting they were. Typically you need at least a good 25-40 minutes to start feeling it as the change in perception slowly creeps in on you. I noticed this too. I was perplexed at how they could be creeping in so quickly. I internally attributed this to the Instant Shine exposure. I figure it made the creeping in phase more pronounced and noticeable.

I shall have to repeat with that batch minus the pheros to further prove this hypothesis. Then I shall test again with a massive OD. OD of pheros, not the psilocybe :slight_smile:.

Psilocybe can produce a real happy and crazed laughing effect in people. Conversely it can also produce really terrifying and depressing experiences. There’s alot of emphasis of “wasted pheros” in conjunction with other substances. But with such temperamental mood changing substances such as psychedelics I’m beginning to think that perhaps a happy mood phero such as Instant Shine can steer the consciousness away from a badtrip and perhaps shape it’s course.

Here’s to run-on sentences.

I’ll be keeping a closer eye on this journal from now on. :smiley:

Pheromones and Shrooms, never thought about it, but why not?

IME, I go through cycles of emotions. Happy thoughts, then fading to sad thoughts/regrets, then back to reality for a brief moment until it starts all over again. Most interesting thing is the comments about the trip kicking in so quickly, usually there’s not much you can do about waiting for the trip to start. I wonder if anyone noticed any quicker starting trips with E and pheromones?