IG is great stuff, let us know how it goes.
i think you and I are gonna be the only people trying that 
i’ve read some of your testing of it, i got interested in how i could use that too. will deff post my result from it, not too many guys are wearing it, at least since i joined.
I think most guys are just plain afraid of being labeled “nice guy”. I don’t see IG that way at all. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. I’ve been running with just plain Ammo for a while now. It seems like my favorite is whatever I’m wearing. These products just rock! IMHO
got the package today! too much free time, so i just had to take some pictures as im mixing up SteveO’s sex mix btw, gonna use IS in place of TAA, as i dont have TAA, hopefully this is gonna work… oh, and straight nol with IH…
all those bottles… so pretty… haha. xD
im gonna make some assumptions here. 1xIS should have about 10mcg TAA and 1xIH should have about 10mcg beta-nol. if anyone cares to correct me, please feel free
i couldnt figure anything out last night, so i ended up just doing 3 sprays of each ingredient into a to-go, then using 3 sprays of that. that’s 3x of my Instant Honesty, IS, P74, P83, P93. i think the to-go sprays a little less than the 30ml per spray, so it wont be exact, but approximately one spray of it would have 8/4/4/4/4 mcg. i put on 3x, so that’s 24/12/12/12/12 mcg in the morning. gonna apply a spray here and there as the day goes by, im at the office.
what i was trying to get was SteveO’s ICM 0.25.1b. only now did i figure out how to get the right ratio. replacing betanol with 4xIH and TAA with 2xIS. Instant Honesty lists 15mcg phero per spray, i guess 70/30 beta/alpha -Androstenol. maybe more betanol, but it also could have other pheros, so i’ll just estimate there is 10mcg of betanol per spray of 1xIH. i have 4x, so that makes 40mcg/spray of betanol.
the main ingredient in IS is TAA and the site lists 15mcg per spray as well. IS must have other things in it, so i guesstimate again to around 10mcg/spray of TAA in 1xIS. i have 2x, so that’s 20mcg/spray.
so i have to work with mcg/spray *=[40, 20, 20, 20, 20]. i am aiming for [Bnol, TAA, P74, P83, P93]=[20, 16, 20, 20, 12] (ICM 0.25.1b rearranged).
the answer, in sprays of my bottles, is [2, 5, 3, 5, 5]. one spray of that mix will yield, in mcg/spray, [4, 5, 3, 5, 5], then i would do 4x of this mix. there will be a total of 20 sprays in the bottle, at 4x each it gives me 5 applications.*
unloaded the rest of yesterday’s straight mix, about 10 sprays, this morning to make room for a new concoction. added 3 drops of A314 to the mix and then sprayed it all on. at first i was a little confused at work, but in about an hour i normalized and started walking around talking to people. had an hour long meeting where it seemed to create a party atmosphere. we all argued, but no one seemed to get actually pissed. good social mix. i’ll try it on unmet females to see if it attracts and keeps them around me at some point.
tried again to replicate SteveO’s mix, but messed up my sequence, so i ended up giving it 3 parts P74 and 5 parts P93, instead of the other way around. so i thought, ok gonna just try this one out for the weekend, then i added a trace amount of none and diluted the per spray concentrations a little bit. the final version was, in terms of sprays, =[2,5,4,3,5,5]=24. a sprinkle of L’eau D’Issey for cover in there, too small to affect concentrations, very strong stuff. the mcg per spray should be, rounding a little, [beta,TAA,none,P74,P83,P93]=[3.0, 4.0, 0.5, 2.5, 4.0, 4.0].
Comradmax, I don’t know if you saw it but I put a decent “quick mix in a to go” method in my Newbie Tricks thread. If you are under 33 sprays then it would work for you. Good luck.
i am confusing myself, i have no more math skills left at my age anymore
you are starting with 20mcg/spray P74 and 5mcg/spray of TAL. you add 10 sprays of P74 and 8 sprays of TAL. in the new bottle you will have 1020=200mcg of P74, and 85=40mcg of TAL, total. you will have a spray in the new bottle of the same overall amount, and you will have 10+8=18 sprays in total. therefore, each spray will contain 200/18=11.1mcg/spray of P74, and 40/18=2.2mcg/spray of TAL.
you wanted 5mcg/spray of P74 and 1mcg/spray of TAL. something isnt right here… i have spent most of today trying to figure out how, given those 2 starting concentrations, to get 5/1 ratio in the final mixture. i have not been successful. it may be mathematically impossible to achieve that. you’d have to do the 18 sprays like that, then add an equal amount of passive filler, like straight alcohol, to get the 5:1 final per spray dose.
Dilute the 18 sprays to 40 sprays…ie fill the togo the rest of the way with cologne or perfumers alcohol.
oh, got it! when i read that passage i assumed you meant you add just a spritz of cologne for a cover scent. i think that’s some form of selective reading
put some sprays of P79 20mcg into a to-go with a little cover cologne. sprayed one on me before leaving apt. almost immediately noticed a self-effect, this is one of the first. i felt less depressed about the negative things. before i put it on i was starting to get in a bad mood just thinking about GF, work and other annoying people i have to deal with. on the drive to work i noticed that even when i TRIED to analyze something negative, i would still feel perfectly content, even happy about it. it’s like i would start thinking about something bad, but then my entire brain (conscious and subconscious) would say, “hey, that’s all true, but really who cares? here are the nice and positive sides of the same argument that are just as important.”
the feeling went away after about 1.5 hours. i then applied 3 more sprays over my clothes at around 2pm. i got a headache and couldnt really concentrate for the first 1.5-2 hours. my head still hurts a little, nothing major, but annoying. i came home and tried to evaporate anything that’s still left with a blow drier.
a friend is having her b-day party at a local pub, so i mixed something up for that using my new bottles: 6 sprays of 4xIH, 2 sprays of Instant Gentleman, 3 sprays of Instant Female Magic, 3 sprays of 20mcg P83, 3 sprays of 20mcg P74, added a few squirts of cologne, shake well. going to put on 3 drops of A314 and cover spray with about half of that mixture 30 mins before leaving the apt. at the pub i will start refreshing with 2-3 sprays at a time as the night goes on to keep the signature present. my goal is to get the Instant Honesty ramped up, along with the social from the P74, and the attractiveness of P83. the Instant Gentleman and Instant Female Magic are there to polish out any female hesitation. i am not sure if they will play a role at such a low concentration, but hopefully it wont hurt or confuse.
wow, that mix worked wonders! i did 3xA314, then 10 sprays of the mix to the body, then 4 more over my clothes. walked to the bar 30 mins later. i must say, it was something else. these girls i regularly hang out with and they have been exposed to many pheronomes. even so, this time they acted like i was the hottest guy in the place. each, and i mean EACH, girl would constantly play with her hair when i was talking to them. there was a new girl that just came here to visit, she is 18, from the moment she saw me she ran her fingers through her hair like she was trying to get gum out. i mean she just never stopped, it was so funny to watch she talked like a machine gun too. she asked me why im still not married at 25 and said i should come to TX where she’s got just the girl for me (also 18, knows how to cook well, and doesnt talk nearly as much, according to her). the girl whose b-day it was turned 24 and she called me names like “sexy max” and “move your sexy ass over a little so i can sit there” kinda stuff. i felt really confident from the start of the night and never like i was overdoing it with the scent. i felt i was hot and i knew everyone thought so too.
i added 2 more sprays over my clothes after about 4 hours, i started feeling the effect wearing off on the others. they came right back. new girls came over and i sat down on their end. right away, massive hair hair grooming, just out of control flirty looks and talk.
the guys there were really talkative and not confrontational at all. one guy was talking a lot and being louder than usual, to the point that someone asked “why are you in such a good mood today?”
at 12 we decided to drive to some guy’s house to party. i ran home to pick up the car and noticed i was out of the mix, so i thought i’d make a new one, and make it with none. i mixed the following: 5xIFM, 6xTUTH, 3xP83, 3xP74, 4x(4xIH). applied about 4 sprays to the body before leaving. i thought i was going to drive one of the girls, but ended up with a dude in my car for the 30 min ride. it deff had an effect on him as he talked nonstop. he really wanted to prove me wrong about women and gave me lots of his advice. it was mostly good concepts mixed with complete and utter misunderstanding, but i listened anyway. never turn down love advice from anyone, they just might be on to something you didnt know. he wasnt, but i didnt wanna argue, just let him steam.
at the house i would add 2 sprays at a time here and there. i noticed something funny. the b-day girl was all friendly and smooth before, now she was a little more edgy. when space cleared up on the couch, she moved away from me. i went to the bathroom to put on 2 sprays, came back, sat down right next to her, she moved away again. the guy i drove was getting really irritated too, we were playing truth or dare and he was pissed at everyone for just about everything. i personally felt a little uneasy on this second mix, and i think it’s because of the none. i was kinda nervous, like i would shake if someone argued with me. im not sure if it was just a sudden change of phero signature, or the mix itself was too strong, so im testing it out with 2 sprays over 3xA314 today at work.
the [5xIFM, 6xTUTH, 3xP83, 3xP74, 4x(4xIH)] mix didnt really do anything noticeable at work. then i went out with friends at night and wore it over 2xA314. i didnt get much from it, didnt see the girls show interest, nothing close to the night before and the other mix. next time i will try to mix up the good one again and see if the reactions are the same.
go, right now, mix this up: 8x(4xIH), 3xIG, 3xIFM, 3x20mcg P83, 3x20mcg P74. 3xA314, 4x of the mix over that to the body, 2x more over the clothes, add 2-3x throughout the night as much as you want. just do it. jesus christ. full report tomorrow… this is like magic
good god, where to start… so i wanted to try that good mix again, this time i added a little more 4xIH and a touch more 1xIG. along with the base of A314 this mix, on the order of a single night, breaks down through bitch shields, any initial discomfort people have with meeting new people, previous notions of you too i think.
i went to the restaurant with about 10 of my russian friends. there were mostly the people i normally hang out with, but i did meet some new girls there. my GF of the last 2 months was there too, but our relationship is hanging by a thread at best because she’s been just ignoring me and not spending any time together lately. i didnt really talk to her there and decided to have a good time and socialize. the biggest thing i noticed was that everyone was really talkative with me, guys too, it must have been the Instant Honesty in the mix.
one guy i sat next to talked to me a lot, he would go right on to next topic without giving me any chance to take a breath and get out he found out that i had quit drinking over 1.5 years ago and instead of bothering me with shots he genuinely absorbed my reasons for it, and made sure to tell me that he doesnt really drink alot and used to be a drunk at one point too. kind of a serious conversation within 2 minutes of me sitting down. i really had to talk to someone else, so i had to tell him that after like 20 minutes of him just talking and talking.
i went to sit on the other side of the table next to the girls, there was a new one i hadnt seen before. right away she accelerated from, “hi, i dont think i’ve met you before, im Max.”, to how long i’ve lived here and what i do. this was in like the first 10 seconds, i was still trying to say hi to everyone else there. like i sit down, say hi to one, say hi to her, try to say hi to #3 through #6, and all this while she just kept talking. she’s really cute, and ukrainian too
every girl i sat next to just looked like she was melting. and these are russians, they take the bitch shield to its absolute limits. i dont know if my jokes were actually funnier or they just reacted better to me, but even the stupidest things i said were laughed at by everyone, girls and guys. it was really effortless to engage anyone with anything, instead of feeling like i was forcing people to talk to me. girls gave me hair grooming and sexy looks, not the same, but each in their own personal way. and i mean each one, even when they’d snap at some other guy trying to talk to them, they’d still be little pussy cats to me. it was just like the first time i had this mix on, if not stronger. i still cannot believe how massive the effects were, it seemed to work for everyone.
i personally felt a lot more sociable once i started putting in a little effort to talk to people. it was like a chain reaction, if i tried to be sociable, no matter what happened it wouldnt get me down. i almost never dance, im really bad and fully aware of this fact. last night i actually felt the desire to go up there and dance with all our girls. usually what happens is that all the russian guys sit at the table and all the girls get up and dance with each other. i really felt like dancing with them and would come up many times. i got groped a little bit and they seemed to be easily controlled into dancing with me and doing whatever i wanted. normally they’re far more flaky and run away, last night they were getting stuck to me. they didnt copy me, more like we were both doing that felt good individually. the one new girl and i really got into it one-on-one and did some seriously provocative close dancing. i think we might have given some of the senior citizens there heart attacks
the new girl was getting really close and we talked throughout the night about going back to Kiev and how things have changed back in ukraine. after dancing i was a little hot, so she pulled my sweater off and sat on my lap. another girl sat on my lap when she wasnt around. that one actually had her BF right there too, but i didnt see or hear any complaining from him. the new girl eventually invited me to go to a friend’s party, but no one else wanted to come, so i was just me and her. one interesting thing is that the party was far away, so she said, “if you dont feel like driving there, can we go somewhere closer?”, then suggested a club in boston. i thought she just really wanted to spend time with me.
we got to the party and there were some russians mixed with normal people there. many girls were russian too. i had never met any of these people before. everyone was really friendly to me and paid attention. i did my pheromone trick of just getting close to girls and starting a conversation and it went really smoothly. i asked how long the party has gone on for and they showed me all the pictures they took. and i mean ALL of them, like 200 at least, one by one on the digital camera, all 3 huddled around me, that’s within like 5 minutes of coming in
the new girl took my hand and said, “let’s go?”, i said, “let’s.”, she led me to another room. i could only assume she wanted me to kiss her, but there were people there already, so i didnt feel like the moment was right. then a guy with his gf took over the couch that was in that room, and they did what i think my girl was trying to get us to do, damn missed my chance we went to the living room and i made her sit on my lap while 2 of the russian girls sat on either side of us and we all talked about astrology. turns out my girl is a psychology major and also loves to get into people’s sign. so we had her do some tests on us, it was fun, cuz she got almost 95% right about me from her little game the girls really seemed to pay attention to what i had to say. i shared my opinion on what their guys were doing and what they really meant or wanted. my girl told them what she knew about people of diff signs, but a lot of time they just kept asking, “what about taurus? tell us about taurus. max, tell us some things about yourself.”, im a taurus and once they found out they kept saying that like 10 times. i guess they really wanted to know about me in the most basic way of understanding it.
we ended up leaving at 3am to drive back, i also drove those 2 girls because they live next to me. the guy who invited them there said that he doesnt mind driving them later, but since they live very close to me, it just made more sense this way. he didnt get angry about it though, he walked them to my car and even invited me to come to his next party in april. i dropped them off, then the new girl. i finally kissed her as we were saying goodbye and we agreed that we want to go out sometime. i told her i wanted to kiss her at the party, but there was never a good moment with everyone standing around us. as i drove home i noticed that the GF that things werent working out with called me about an hour before. that means she saw me leave to the party with this new girl at 12, said she didnt wanna go with us, then wanted to tell me something 3 hours later. i’ve been trying to talk to her for weeks with zero luck, she just wont tell me if she wants me or not. i still dont know what she wanted, but maybe seeing me there with a new girl made her jealous and she wants me back now…
one side note is that none of the guys were angry at me at any point. this was true for my friends at the restaurant and the completely new people at the party. i kinda took the attention of the girls at the party, but all the guys were really friendly with me, no hard feelings. there were no arguments, any disagreements just seemed to fizzle out with both of us agreeing that it wasnt a big deal. this is in stark contrast to when i wear none and either they argue with me or with each other around me, passionately.
this mix is a friendly sexy dreamy monster of total devastation. i went form meeting a girl for the first time to her actually taking some charge and trying to make out with me all in the same night. i really feel good personally on this mix too and i think this plays a huge role in the success. im gonna start drinking this stuff soon