New, first week of experimentation, cont.

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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My first day I got A314, tuth, IFM, IS.

went downtown with a girl, I put on 2 drops of A314, 1 on wrists and 1 on my jawline, like the website said. I put 2 sprays of IS on, chest and wrists. and 1 of instant female magic to the head.

She was a little quieter than usual, and hinted at me paying for things, thought maybe because of A314, because she’s not usually like that.

But it also could have been any number of other things.

Next day wore 4 sprays of IS, then about 2 hours later, put on 2 drops of A314, because I didn’t notice anything from the IS. It was loose classroom environment.

Next day… sorry, don’t remember it real well, I think 2 sprays of IFM.

But today… I got ammo, instant openness 2x, instant honesty 2x, all togo.

I put on 2 sprays of IFM in the morning, the others didn’t get here til lunch.

I didn’t see any reaction from IFM, and was having a hard time covering up the stench. I washed that off at lunch, and directly put on 2 sprays of ammo to the wrists, then spread them on my neck.

Right after people said that I put on way too much cologne. I made a little excuse and brushed it off, then I had a speaking test.(I’m studying korean)

I felt the most confident I have felt in one of those ever. After it I had a buzz for a couple of hours. I went to the library to “study” and things were still pretty chill.
I went into the bathroom and put 1 spray of Instant Openness to my wrist. I came back, again they said I put a lot of cologne on, but they said it was just right. We all started making a lot of jokes, and having a good time. I was the main joke maker out of like a group of 7 people, which is pretty rare. I’m not like that unless excited, etc. I’m usually pretty chill. And people were responding really well.

My main concern with testing is the strong scent. I have heard of people saying to do what I did (IE. test one, then add a little in the bathroom, etc.) But when I did that the smell would be way too strong for about 20 min.

Feel free to post any comments or questions. Just want to share my experiences, and get feed back.(I’m still brand new)

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ive had similar results with the same products, which was mainly no reaction from anyone. Perhaps pheromones just dont work welll with us, or with me at least.

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RFG123, same doses as well?

I must say the reactions may be subtle and you have to be conscious of it, there are many environments where people are not very responsive to pheros, specially if cohibited by something or someone (in a classroom, etc) and specially at lower ages :wink:.

Pheros are really very context-depending… We are not animals, you are not going to have sex in the middle of a class so your brain filters consciously or unconsciously that kind of thinkings but, if you use Turn Up The Heat when alone with a girl friend in a house, see what happens. Same for Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, if you use it in a museum, cinema, classroom, or something like that, it might not be useful, people can control theirselves and choose not to talk, but try it in an enviroment where there is no problem if you talk a lot, or with a very talkative group of people, you will see what i mean.

I’ve found them to be very time-of-the-day-depending, too. But this may be included under “context-depending”. Just try to be coherent with your behaviour with what you are wearing and try to be coherent with the environment and context, too. :slight_smile:

Try pheros in a disco or pub or with drunk people, you will see that with the appropiate ones, they are almost dolls in your hands.

Anyway if you doubt pheros works, try a -none overdose (with TUTH or Ammo) and you will see those thingies are really powerful ones (you will be ignored or hit in the ass :wink:). Or try a Instant Honesty OD, if there’s a chance.

For me there is no doubt they work, and when I started I made my double blindness expermients and that sort of things. It’s just that it’s not easy to learn how to get positive results from them at first, just experiment and experiment, and try to find your unique and personal sweet points of each phero and try to understand each phero behaviour with you and with the context at low, mid and high doses first before mixing. Most of the time when mixing we cancel some of the most edgy effects of some pheromones that are normally the most noticeable ones. My advice (and the rule of thumb in the forum) is that you should not make a mix with a phero that you don’t have tested a lot, understood, and found your sweet point.

Good luck guys, don’t give up :wink:

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RFG123, same doses as well?

I must say the reactions may be subtle and you have to be conscious of it, there are many environments where people are not very responsive to pheros, specially if cohibited by something or someone (in a classroom, etc) and specially at lower ages :wink:.

Pheros are really very context-depending…

We are not animals, you are not going to have sex in the middle of a class so your brain filters consciously or unconsciously that kind of thinkings but, if you use Turn Up The Heat when alone with a girl friend in a house, see what happens. Same for Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, if you use it in a museum, cinema, classroom, or something like that, it might not be useful, people can control theirselves and choose not to talk, but try it in an enviroment where there is no problem if you talk a lot, or with a very talkative group of people, you will see what i mean.

I’ve found them to be very time-of-the-day-depending, too. But this may be included under “context-depending”. Just try to be coherent with your behaviour with what you are wearing and try to be coherent with the environment and context, too. :slight_smile:

Try pheros in a disco or pub or with drunk people, you will see that with the appropiate ones, they are almost dolls in your hands.

Anyway if you doubt pheros works, try a -none overdose (with Turn Up The Heat or Ammo) and you will see those thingies are really powerful ones (you will be ignored or hit in the ass :wink:). Or try a Instant Honesty OD, if there’s a chance.

For me there is no doubt they work, and when I started I made my double blindness expermients and that sort of things. It’s just that it’s not easy to learn how to get positive results from them at first, just experiment and experiment, and try to find your unique and personal sweet points of each phero and try to understand each phero behaviour with you and with the context at low, mid and high doses first before mixing. Most of the time when mixing we cancel some of the most edgy effects of some pheromones that are normally the most noticeable ones. My advice (and the rule of thumb in the forum) is that you should not make a mix with a phero that you don’t have tested a lot, understood, and found your sweet point.

Good luck guys, don’t give up :wink:

Capone is right about using these pheros one on one, you’ll get great results. I am a newbie as well, but when i used ammo, instant shine, instant openness, and instant honesty while going one to one with my love interest, the results were astonishing, complete change in her personality. And yes they do comment on the scent. She certainly picked it up. Good thing i wasnt wearing instant female magic, cos apparently they respond to this best when they are ovulating, when i met my love interest, she ws having her monthly. Now its worth noteing cos then i can more or less estimate when to use what.

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Capone-

I did use similar dosages. They have not worked for me at all yet. You do, however, raise some interesting points in your post. Which products/dosages have you had the most results with, perhaps i will try?

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What do you define as “work”, what are you observing, what are your targets? What do you want to achieve with pheros? I may think about a mix that may help, but… have you tried each phero sepparately in different doses? :wink:

and what results are you trying to get?

Do you want a reason to believe in pheros? Spray 10x Turn Up The Heat or Ammo and go into a place with people you know, people you don’t know, try to talk to anybody and see how the alpha males and staff react. You won’t believe your eyes, will get clear violent reactions and most ignoring ones.
Or spray 10x (for example) Instant Honesty and go and have cofee with someone, you will not be able to speak, when you throw a word, the other will continue speaking for ever and telling you things he or she should have never said.

:wink:

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I didnt notice anything different than when i had no pheromones on. If was as if i had nothing at all on. I used 5 sprays of IS x2 and 2 sprays of TUTH 5 mcg.

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Please answer all the questions in my last post so we can give you some advice with knowdledge.

Anyway 10mcg of -none is almost sure an OD for your age (depending on the context). Don’t mix, use them separately and search for subtle IOI, start using half a spray of Turn Up The Heat, in an apropiate context, try to find your sweet points, and keep reading all posts that you see interesting in this forum :wink:

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Hey RFG123.

Like I said in the first post, SOME of them I didn’t notice any effects. I am still experimenting and do somewhat believe now.

I am a very observant person. Some people have those personality types, and some don’t. Usually introverted type people are more observant, while extroverts tend to notice things about themselves more. This has nothing to do with what I have learned on this forum. So, anyways, I notice the smallest little things a person does, or the way they act. But I hear it’s hard if you are the other personality type.

I haven’t had any profound effects yet, but I have noticed little things. Like with IO, it actually gives me a little buzz, with 1 spray, same with ammo.

I have noticed most of the effects so far from ammo and Instant Openness. They are better suited for my situation.

I sprayed two sprays of ammo on my shirt last night, because the smell is strong, good, but strong, and I wanted to try a lot. but only put on 1 in the morning. I noticed subtle changes. kind of like I did w/ pherlure, but more frequent.

I sprayed 1 spray of Instant openness at lunch and it just gave me a little buzz. didn’t have many people to test it out on though.

I might go out to the bar tonight, I want to try a mix, but not sure if it’s good this early.

I rarely go to bars, that’s the main reason I want to try a mix. It’s a packed bar, with dancing, and big outdoor patio where every one hangs out. a lot of a-males, because it’s a military bar/club. Let me know what you think capone, wouldn’t mind tryin to bring a lady home.

I’m still talking to that girl, but we’re not dating yet, and she’s probably getting laid by her bf before he leaves so… :wink:

was thinking of this mix this guy put on awhile ago he liked to call “instant sex”. I’ll put it up when I find it.

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Mix if you want ogt192 (ojete? :wink:) maybe you find your sweet spots mixing and can be interesting for you to see the effects of some pheros when they are mixed. I started mixing the first day but is precisely that because I now recommend to start little by little, I threw away lots of pheros in unnecesary or bad bad mixes and didn’t really understand why it worked or it didn’t.

Feel free to try, man :wink:

Ah, before I forgot, I’ve found pheros much much much more useful with people you don’t know or have a premade idea from you and you haven’t met before, this is really when pheros make the difference. If you go to a bar where everyone knows you or use pheros always around people you already know they wont work so well and changes will be more subtle. Is like when you want to change your life and behaviour and people who knows you don’t believe you and treat you as normally, but you really see a difference when you meet new people. It is much more difficult to change someone’s mind if he knows you than to give a great first phero-aided-impression to someone you have just met. :slight_smile:

Good luck at the disco! :wink:

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awesome. thanks capone. There are A LOT of people at this bar, and I know maybe 10. so I might have mislead you.

I want to try, and think I will, but do you have any advice so I don’t get bad effects, any ones I should stay away from? or not put too much on? I asked you another question in that other forum where you told about your other mix at the disco.

so far I really like ammo, and want to try 1 spray of TUTH. I have ammo, IH, and IO togo, should I take any of those w/ me to add throughout the night? Thanks again

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You are right, i didn’t say anything because I had a lot of alpha and beta-nols in Ammo and Pheroproof but that was a mistake of mine as PP is not in your mix, sorry! :wink:. Try Instant Openness and Instant Honesty, 3 sprays will tame -none if you are afraid of bad reactions and you may see people laughing and talking a lot but you might lost the sexual vibe. You still have to approach people but they will surely be more talkative :slight_smile:. That mix was for some clubs with girls in their 30’s and a little liberal and I’m a little older so try compensating with the nols :wink: if you feel ignored or “violent” looks or reactions.

I have found when high on -none that 18-20 yo girls feel like “violated” with the minimum touch in their arm :wink: and -none last much more than -ols (and -ols might convert in -none when faded out) so if you think during the night you are high on -none try to compensate it with the -nols.

I know it can be a little overhealming and seem complicated, that’s what happens when you use “complex” mixes, you have to be very observing and compensate in the middle of the night but you normally get the best results while trying the symphony :wink:

By the way, when you have time, read a little about buildup during the days in clothes (a lot) and in body (you have to take an energy shower or even there’s people that has to use special soaps).

I hope not no be scaring you with all this info, all this becomes natural when experimenting a little :wink:

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ok, I’m leaving in 20. I put on 3 drops of A314, 4 IFM, 3 IS, 1 TUTH, and will put on 1 IO and 1 IH and 1 ammo. then I will take those last 3 w/ me. I don’t want to overdo the -none, and i want the ladies to approach me.

I’m always smiling, and having a good time at the bar. But not usually the center of attention. Is that the persona I have to put on.

tonight I plan on being a little more agressive, but I’m going to work up those last 3 while I’m there.

Any last minute tips?

Thanks capone
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also, if I use ammo on these, should I stay away from a cover cologne?

you da man

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IMO there’s enough if you apply Instant Female Magic (and TUTH if you don’t like the scent) the first and apply the others that have a better scent after :wink:

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thanks, I’m leaving now, I’ll leave feedback asap.

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ok.

Sorry for the late post, but here goes.

Went out on friday night and put on what I said in my previous post.

3 drops of A314, 4 Instant Female Magic, 3 IS, 1 Turn Up The Heat, and will put on 1 Instant Openness and 1 Instant Honesty and 1 ammo.

I took the 3 togos of IO, IH, and ammo with me. I got a compliment on the smell by a casual friend. girl. she said I smelled yummy.

went to the club and got no reactions. The club was packed, but what sucks about these clubs is the male/female ratio is probably 3:1. It’s a military town.

This is the type of club where most of the girls are on the dance floor, but you have to ask the girl beforehand to dance.

IMO I have never really thought of this as a good place to pick up women. I made a few approaches, confidently, but was sort of just brushed off.

I mostly spent the evening hanging with my friends. I had three really good female friends with me, 2 of them lesbians. And maybe 5-10 friends/acquaintances. When I initiated contact with them they were really open, and friendly, like usual. But after a minute or so I would kind of be left out.

I kept spraying a little more ammo. 1-2 sprays, and maybe 3 sprays of IO, IH. throughout the night. No more openness.

I think it was either the environment or the pheros. I haven’t been to this bar in maybe 3 months, so it was different.

tomorrow, I’m going to class, I want to test out something by itself. any recommendations on what I might get the most results from out of my arsenal. And should I try reapplying at lunch etc to see if there is a stronger effect.

I was thinking IS, but I haven’t gotten any strong results from that yet, or IFM. What’s the max I should put on of those without ODing. The smell of IFM is pretty strong, but I might be able to put a decent cover scent over it.

I’m kind of out of it today, so if this sounds kind of like rambling that’s the reason, and sorry for it.

Thanks, and again, I’ll keep on posting.

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ok. I went out friday night w/ my friend that left on saturday :frowning:

I put on 3 drops of A314, 4 Instant Female Magic, 3 IS, 1 Turn Up The Heat, and will put on 1 Instant Openness and 1 Instant Honesty and 1 ammo.

I took my togos of IO, IH, and ammo w/ me to spray if the need be.

The atmosphere was not like the usual club. It is a male:female ratio of maybe 3:1. and maybe 1/2 the women being attractive.

Most the females are already dancing on the dance floor, and I don’t like to be the “prowler” type. I would approach a couple girls that weren’t dancing confidently, but it was the usual rejections.

I had 3 good female friends there and 5-10 good acquaintances, male and female. I would initiate with them, and they would be very welcoming as usual. but after a couple of minutes i would be left out. Even w/ my good friends.

i told my good friends this and we would of course mingle more, but this kind of bar isn’t really my scene. Especially 'cause of the ratio.

I sprayed maybe 1-2 more sprays of ammo throughout the night, and 3 of IH, and IO. also through out the night.

No one really opened up more.

I’m thinking it was the environment, Like I said, and asked earlier. I am confident out there, but I’m usually never the center of attention. I can’t make myself the center of attention. Is that the type of persona I have to put on when I wear these pheromones? I am confident, but when some one is not interesting, It’s hard for me to have a lot of small talk with them.

Tomorrow I want to test out a lot of IFM, or IS. but I don’t want to stink. but I am going to only stick w/ one. I haven’t gotten any noticeable results from either of them, but I’m going for general attraction. I might continue w/ my experiments with ammo. I have seen the most results from that, it just has a strong smell. a good one, but a little strong for the classroom.

What’s the usual overdose for ammo, and the other ones.

Sorry for the rambling, my heads a little out of it today.

I’ll keep on posting my experiments though.

Thanks all.

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Maybe try less A314 in your mix, or not using TUTH? Remember Ammo has 2.5mcg of -none per spray, never have at your age more than 5-6mcg on you (in my opinion, there are others, and dose highly person and situation-depending).

If you want to use -none products I would recommend you to find your ODs limit and sweet point in -none from TUTH and in -none from Ammo separately (they might be different, because are differently buffered), using them alone.

I am older than you and I get alpha-males aggresivity in a studying context just with 3x Ammo, and get some I-don’t-believe-you-are-respected at 3-4 drops of A314.

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Today I used 6 drops of A314. I actually got a little respect than I normally do. We got into an argument in class, and it seemed like everyone was attacking me. I almost got pretty irritated.

The past 2 days I have been wearing only IFM, about 4 sprays, but it was in the class environment, and didn’t notice any effects at all.

Yesterday I went to a coffee shop and wore 2 drops of A314. This girls behind the counter seemed kinda young, but she was all over me. It was the first time seeing this girl, and she was really bright, and when I talked to her, she seemed a little nervous. It could have just been her personality though.

Tonight, I’m just going over to my 2 male friends’ place and wanted to see if IS really works. So I sprayed about 10 sprays of Instant Shine. I’m taking ammo with me just in case we meet some ladies outside.

I’ll try and keep posting on this.