Ammo, IS, and MX 297

On my last purchase of ammo , IS, and a314 I got a free togo of mx297.

I didn’t have a chance to use it until a couple of days ago and then it hit me this is magic juice!

At first I thought I’d just spray it on and see what happens having not read any of the reports on it to skew my judgement.

Then I realized my approach anxiety with cold approaching strangers got reduced and also my confidence started to take off. It’s as if social barriers were diminishing.

Secondly I noticed I would be very relaxed but a bit serious and lacking humour unless I tried to joke. The targets would all be very serious and alert too as if they were trying to purposely pay attention to my every word. At one cafe TWO waitresses came together to advise me on what to order and Ihad a talk with them about what their favorite dish was. I even asked do they work a lot and they said all the time, and I said “even on weekends” just hoping for an answer to my question and they just smiled and looked at each other and giggled. Maybe they thought I was hitting on them for a date.

Bottom line with ammo and IS this mix is magical.

I know several people have commented on how it makes them assertive as is powerful like a314 but with the friendliness aspect of an actor or musician as opposed to the director/ politician vibe you get from a314. It’s also ballzier than IG.

I didn’t get any touching although I found it easy to be charming in some ways. Its as if I was focused in the moment ready to capitalize and lead a conversation. I liked the fact that some women were in awe when I spoke and took a bit to open up. I don’t know what was going through their minds but once I joked a bit and started talking they started smiling and talking back.

What is in this magical mx297? and is it sexual? I feel it is highly underrated. NEVER have I tried a product with such in your face results.

I’d like to revisit this topic with those who use the particular IS ammo mx297 combo.

Also how do you make it more sexual. It seems women see me as boyfriend material as opposed to ONS. These were young women under 22. They were also as tall as me and hot babes. I wonder why I felt no lack of confidence. I usually am not so bold and cut conversations short.

I also find this mx297 makes you into a SNAKE of some sort. Its easier to come up with on the spot excuses or lead a woman a certain direction be it sexual or other. Great for a salesman!

I seem to drive my car slower when wearing this mix. Christ at one point I was driving 80 km an hour on a 100 km highway and only realized it after a few min. It seems like it makes me VERY relaxed. I don’t like to argue with it on.

It’s definitely very good for people with acute anxiety like me. The MX 297 acts like some sort of anti anxiety potion and antidepressant. I wonder what is in it. I also feel bold like talking, and feel like CHARMING women. One business woman whose hotel I visit talked to me so I asked for her business card. She said she doesn’t have one yet but there are many others. So I took one of the managers ones and looked at her blouse and wrote her name off her nametag on it. And said to her “look you have a business card of your own to give me after all”! Wow I felt very slick and it was out of character for me to do this. At the same time later when she saw me leave she waved and said goodbye. I said I’d see you on the weekend and she said “yes see you on the weekend” in a relaxed tone.

It was all so relaxed. Kinda like being wasted but not high or excited but serenity.

Great mix. Any comments?

dsouza

Before I forget or get asked my dosages were:
3 sprays double strength IS neroli to front of neck
2 sprays ammo double strength back of neck
2 sprays mx297 akuto front/sides of neck

Effects seems to last even into the next day to some extent.

Ammo and IS - What more can you say, its a classic mix!

Personally I would say that MX297 is more charasmatic than all out sexual - however, with the right game it can go work very well on its own. Personally I got my best results by adding-in a little none when I was well into any interaction and escallating. That produced dramatic sexual effects, especially with “friends”

And yes, I have seen some remerkable responses from folk with serious social anxiety problems when exposed to me with 297 - brought them right out of their shell, even where other pheros eg A314, MX301, P74/IH had no effect at all (or negative effects) . :slight_smile:

Typical dose was 2-3 sprays 297 plus 1-2 sprays of something none-based.

Problem is when I am charismatic I’m a gentlemen, I need to somehow be more flirtatious with women instead of coming across as this charismatic gentlemen with this mix. I want to make them wet.

Kinda flirt with them till their hot. DO you think this mix can bring that out too?

dsouza

What none based products are you adding in?

dsouza

I used a variety, particularly Alter Ego and TUTH. In the end, I found a single spray of plain Androstenone had the strongest impact without disarming the charasmatic effects of 297. I will repeat that timing/judging the escalation was important and spraying too early could backfire.

I used 12.5 mcg none from a TOGO but that was all with women in their mid 30s and above - You would probably need a lower strength for younger?

And I think you will find the charisma of 297 will let away with a lot more by way of flirting. :wink:

This morning I tried 2 sprays mx297 with NOTHING else and I felt castrated. I think I remember reading that Steve said the same thing in a post on MX297 from a long time ago. I got no IOI in the malls and felt like the confidence lift I had from last night was history.

It could only mean by itself mx297 doesn’t work its magic for me. When added to higher none rone mix it works wonders. I need the ammo IS in there .. Looks like from now on all reports will be with ammo IS.

I could go with tuth but I think getting my natural none levels up by working out a lot is a better idea. For some reason aside from ammo my body does not like pure none mones added in.

dsouza

It could be - Like A314, 297 is not for everyone - IMO Its a mix you really need to go and work with in a fun/social setting, party or club and saying that, it will not get a positive response from everyone. In fact, I found that women who responded strongly to me when I wore A314 or A314/TUTH tended not to respond anything like as well, wheras women intimmidated by anything A314 were often highly responsive to 297.

A314 and tuth will definitely reel in the older chicks and kinda scare away or make you seem like old fart to the younger. So I bet the women you see reponding to mx297 are the younger ones and the ones who are older like the a314 vibe.

Depends what YOU want too! Do you want to reel in the younger women or the older ones? You say your 47 so I’d say you have a mixed bag of tricks to work with depending on what your after.

I find the older women are more after protectors, financial suppliers, and half of them are bags or the good ones are married.

Younger women like rock stars, like to explore men our of their curiosity and are more likely to be seduced by the charisma of mx297 if mixed with some other sexual or sexy products.

As for me I need to get my butt in shape for July. I’m targetting losing 15 lbs of fat and adding in 5 lbs of muscle for me to look great. That’s a difference of losing 10 lbs on the scale. My workouts are intense but I always find the greatest hits after working out as my posture is better and I feel the endorphin rush.:smiley:

dsouza

Could you elaborate on that, or was it just that there wasn’t enough spark there. I think MX297 gets to the comfort stage without hitting the attraction stage first. I don’t believe this is a good first time mix because it could send out the right signal at the wrong time.

So you’re saying MX297 makes you sneaky and conniving? It was probably just a choice of words but then again it could just be the comfort aspect of it.

The initial exposures I had with it I attributed at that time to an adrenaline rush. It had some TAA like properties to it now that I’ve tested it further.

I’ve went through my Journal extensively and other posts, and if you really look at the end result it’s not as it is made out to be. Getting easy “hits” typically are the ones that lead to the “shallower” interactions. I’ll use A314 as an example, its not in your face, but as time goes by, the results are stunning and “deeper”. Many of you have heard about the fallout effect that A314 has and I don’t get why that hasn’t been touted as a great mix. Heck I went out with AMMO and IS yesterday and I had the same kind of results as MX297, but guess what, there were attraction based hits there.

Read some of the reports and look at the trends.

Most of the women I see are in the 30s to early 40s range and TBH, I’ve got good results from both 314 and 297 with them - just that some respond better to one or the other.

MX297 does go down well with younger women and I’d maybe partly attribute that to its lack of none - social mixes are much more useful around that age but it certainly ain’t as scary as P130! :open_mouth:

I’ve had a lot of interest/kino/flirting from girls in their early 20s upwards with 297 but yes, its great fun but I’m not taking that very seriously.

The other thing I really like 297 for is the “I’ve never seen you like this before” affect it has had on quite a few women who have known me for a long time! :wink:

I wore MX 297, ammo, IS, and a314 today and once again I’m getting unbelievable results. This BLONDE (Here we go again) whose a 10 at the doctors clinic is giggling at every word I say and I’m not a funny guy. Then she smiles at me when walking by. I was with my SO.

I think I’m seeing a pattern here. It seems to work with women in social or person to person settings like cafes , doctors offices etc not so much cold on woman in malls etc.

I’ve noticed I always wear ammo is and with mx297 added in 3 woman one from a hotel whose restaurant I’m visiting, one from the doctors office, and one from a cafe are clinging to me like glue. I bet if I was single I’d have 3 different dates already!

They average 20-28 years in age. I’ve had BEST results with 1 spray a314 thrown in as I produce low rone naturally.

Still figuring this out but it makes me confident as hell. Lots of looks even in the mall but not at primetime when its busy. Mostly early in the morning etc.

What I like best about it is I hardly have to initiate and its easy to be congruent with it as it gives me balls of steel (or castrates me at other times… actually the castration effect came when I left out a314).

This mx297 is powerful stuff. Much more effective than my p83… I just placed an order for 5 togos!!!

dsouza

MX 297 + A314 always gave me remarkable results.. every single time (offcourse there was a bit of none + shine or honesty)…

enjoy the results

One other thing when I went to the mall at night with my SO and family member I got looks from many 10’s in the food court. I just noticed most of them were looking back at me. Also when I sat down in the food court some BLONDES even with their boyfriends were turning heads to look at me. I also notice many men looking at me with this interesting look on their face like do I know this guy?

I attribute part of my success to the mones and part of it due to my appearance and posture that day. I was dressed in a decent sexy looking layered top and pair of jeans and dress shoes. I also attribute my success to my own outlook when wearing the mones. I would be confident enough to sell my soul if I had too with this combination and know exactly how to play hard to get.

I’m wondering how much of the attention has to do with being with my SO. Usually when I’m by myself the popularity is less. Its like woman want to steal me away when they see me with another woman (their instincts?).

All in all at the least Ihave gotten is looks from this combinations from strangers at malls, the looks usually come at cafes in the malls or the food court.

The best hits have been with a314 on. I don’t always spray this whole combination at once. I usually do Instant shine in the morning, add some instant shine and ammo later on, then later on add a spray of a314 and 2 sprays of mx297.

I also measured my blood pressure and it was optimal (on the low side). My pulse was pretty low about 60 bpm after a long walk and in the evening. Not bad considering i just started these intense kettlebell workouts. I always felt like crap after intense weight training.

Can I tell you all this is happening to me at 41 and being about 10 lbs overweight. I’m not even that tall. I’m telling you my best game has been being mysterious and playing hard to get and being seen with many women. Why chase women when they can chase you? If they chase you your value goes up in their eyes, provided you don’t kiss their asses.

And then being sweet and holding back. Nothing attracts more women into your life than that combination. I haven’t acted on any of these hits but I must say I’m more apt to flirt than before, even with random strangers.

If there’s just one thing I DON’T like about this mix is the a314 makes me kinda short tempered but I control myself. I have to always be in control and play it cool. I would love to leave the a314 out but my confidence drops without it.

The a314 also bumps up the age of the targets. No more hits from 15 year olds, thank God. Last thing I need is reputation for socializing or flirting with underage girls.

Oh one last thing all hits came from white women, and I’m NOT white. I didn’t see any blacks or latina’s checking me out and I live in Toronto and am surrounded by them.

I don’t think blonde hair is what ammo attracts but I think blonde women (whether they color their hair or not) are more apt to have fun and express themselves…

Also its spring here in Toronto and the weather is great. Could be romance is in the air…:stuck_out_tongue:

dsouza

Interesting - I’ve found that wearing 297/314 together is about the most counterproductive phero combination I’ve yet tried. Sends a confusing message that does not go down at all well with people who would normally respond well to each individually.

What doses/proportions are you using?

I know your msg was directed to aghor but I think I should chime in too. I use 1 spray of a314. I find if I’m feeling rather confident i can skip the a314 but usually I need the confidence boost since my targets are all in their 20’s.

The jury is still out on whether a314 and mx297 combine well. I think personal experience is the best teacher. I find a shot of a314 early in the day leaves me with a confidence boost that takes into the night and sometimes the next day. I feel like i have balls of steel with it.

I use it solely for confidence boosting and nothing else. That’s why 1 spray is my limit.

dsouza

Thanks - OK, I’ve never used the spray A314 with 297, only the oil but yes, I’ll give that a spin sometime. :slight_smile:

Latest experiment .. today I went with 2 sprays ammo heavy, 2 sprays double strength IS, then 3 hrs later (2 sprays mx297). Went to mall, got lots of IOI and smiles, and said heavy with several people. Went into one store and started talking to the saleslady and she and I kinda had a smooth conversation, her friend called me sweety from the time i entered.

I noticed without the a314 I get that friendly spotlight vibe but not the extreme confidence I get when I add in a314. So its a trade off more confidence with a314 but more intimidation.

I’m going to leave out a314 for a while and just see where the current mix takes me. Unless I feel really low confidence then I’ll add a spray of a314 in from time to time.

dsouza

Hi

Did another test with a314 in the mix with 297 , IS, and AMMO and this time it backfired. Ionly got really old and rich looking women checking me out. No IOI’s nothing.

Went home, showered and tossed on 297, IS, and AMMO without the a314, went out again and this time got tons of looks.

I had 3 blondes check me out but they were to shy to say anything and I didn’t initiate as they were all 17-18.

I seem to get lots of looks from the young ones but its only the ones who WORK in stores that I can start conversations with as they are older (21+) and I have something I can talk about, and I have a chance to revist them later on. And I don’t look like a perv picking up chicks while walking down the mall corridors – not the best place to start conversations.

I still find it not as sexual even with the ammo double strength and shine in it. I have yet to get women touching me with this mix on. I wish I could get some touching going but I must come across as too serious for that I guess.

dsouza

Do you really need the IS in that? IME MX297 is probably happy enough on its own - In fact the IS and nol/rone in the Ammo may be moderating the 297 too much?

Have you maybe a small amount of TUTH - Although it has steering molecules, its none content has a greater presence and the overall package may be less likley to detract from the 297?.