AMMO vs MX353

Field Reports & Anecdotal Experience Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports
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So, after doing a bit of reading, AMMO seems like a clear winner in terms of a great product for a beginner (I’ve used mones before, just not AD). Seems to get a lot of IOIs. I have also been reading a bit about MX353, which seems to be a winner as well, though some had the opinion it wasn’t the same strength as MX292.

What is the difference between the 2? Not just from a technical point but also from personal experience.

Also, if I see FF22, does that mean it is in the scent modeled after Silver Mountain Water?

Thanks for your input in advance! I want to put the GC to good use towards one of these products. Although, I’m already leaning more towards AMMO since the price seems more reasonable.

If you think something would be a better choice at producing IOIs, or is just a consistent monster, feel free to include as well!

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You will get differing advise I am sure, but I would recommend Ammo as it is a well tested product.

Also you will be paying a premium for the MX353 as it is not on the “Commercial” line of products.

I am finding Ammo (I have x2 strength in FF21) to be a very versatile product.

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If you are starting out, then its Ammo by a very long head.

Ammo is a well-established and well balanced attractant product that is straightforward to use in a wide variety of situations and doses and backed by a double your money-back warranty.

MX353 in an experimental mix that sold without any warranty - Manily because it is an overt Androstenone product, steered by some rather exotic molecules which can do very well in some situtions but will be inconsistent and very likely to fall flat on its face in others.

Yes, FF22 is the World Edition scent.

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Well, its settled. I’ll go for AMMO. Would still like to hear more of peoples experiences in comparison.

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There is not really any comparison between these two. They are very different mixes - A comparison between 2x TUTH and MX353 might be much better?

Also, if you specifically want the FF22 scent, which is a more mature/Euro-style less in your face compared to FF21, yo ucan get the Ammo World Edition. Everything phero-wise is the same.

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Ahh, OK. Good to know. Thanks again

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MX353 = Touchy feely, Sensual, Crushy, Highly sexual. self effects diminish with regular use. 6 molecules I believe - rather exotic ones. Designed as a pherobomb-type product. Results were less consistent than AD had hoped. Works pretty good in nightclubs if you just want to get laid. Uses F22 scent. (Related: MX292.) If you are going to shell out a lot of money for an MX for nightclub use, I would say start with MX297 because it’s more consistent (though it’s a different type of product, more “life of the party mix”.) You can add heat to make that one more sexual.

Ammo = 3 molecules, designed as a young man’s cologne & as a beginner’s product. Works very well in combo with other commercial line products - Shine, IO, TUTH. Comes in Ammo, World Edition, and Summer Ammo. Commercial line products exhibit consistency in effects.

Summer ammo contains add’l molecules, one of which “we don’t even offer as a custom or in the store yet”. If I was going to get ammo, I’d prob. get summer ammo because of the lighter scent and add’l ingredients.

If you are looking for lots of IOI, Ammo does that spectacularly well. However I feel A314 leave a more lasting impression on people, though with less overt IOI. If you just want to see strong reactions, good or bad, IJ will get strong reactions that you can observe. Shine is prob. the cheapest product that will prove to a beginner that pheros can deliver positive results.

scents by special order:

Neroli - recommended for most products, very light and uplifting / antidepressant.
Akuto - very sexy masculine scent. Mature. A bit strong.
Grapefruit - similar to Neroli.
F20 - Himalaya by Creed, strong sandalwood scent, good for older man
F21 - Creed’s Green Irish Tweed - better projection
F22 - Creed’s Silver Mountain Water, flowery
F23 - blue summer (summer ammo)

Game scent no longer available - a few components in it where banned by the fda. Wasn’t this Melony/Fruity? This got a lot of hits and everyone seemed to like it. You occasionally see people selling game scent product in the trading post.

Ammo is F21
A314 is Akuto
World Edition is F22

Nautica Competition - same scent as ammo?

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Hey, I’m from DC too! NE. Anyways, thank you for such a thorough response. It will not only be helpful to me but others as well.

I actually ended up ordering MX297, although I requested a sample of AMMO, so maybe I’ll get that today too. I wonder how many sprays will be in the 5mL to-go…I can probably find some info on it. Will be going to a show later tonight, and will report.

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You get about 40 sprays out of the to-go bottles, and the 30ml bottles are about 300 sprays.

However the to-gos have a propensity to leak or liquid to evaporate out once you have opened them. The best way to avoid this is to make sure the cap is pressed all the way on and put more clear tape around the edge of the cap to re-seal this. Also put your to-go in a ziplock bag or something else that seals up well, like a small Tupperware container. What’s great about the to-gos is you can put like 5 of them in your pocket without anyone really noticing.

The 30 ml is bulky - you might carry one in a big coat pocket but if you drop it, it may shatter, which will likely cause some havoc! The upside is they have much better spray nozzles, which I feel result in much better applications. Also they don’t leak.

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200 sprays in a 30 ml not 300

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FROM MY EXPERINCES:

Ammo - Ready to go product - pretty much spray and pray to a newbie and they will get hits.

MX353 = has the aurora of a fu..ing rockstar - you need to calibrate your movements, attitudes and you actions to match the aurora of the mone. also this shit is POTENT! You will still get hits but more like “WTF something aint right” type of hit if you arent calibrated to the mix. I have found self effects are also a lot more present (i tend to swear a lot more, but in a smooth way, so i think), so if you are new to mones best stick to the mix which has been developed in a ready to go mix.. Otherwise the results may not be as intended…

Of course if you already are a fu..ing rockstar (or know how to act so) then by all means give it a go. but you are better off learning how mones affect you first before going up to a VERY potent mix.

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You are right about the “Rockstar” vibe - in the right environment.

And last week I was actually sitting with an up and coming rock band, touring their first EP. My pal’s new band was playing support.

As for the WTF hits - they were coming thick and fast. Notably when a late 30s/early 40s woman tried to drag me over the table from between the two other ladies I was getting-on rather too well with!

Oh and then there was the three-way snog on the dancefloor and a lap dance from some random mutant stick-insect of a woman who must have been nearly seven feet tall.

I’ve still not written that night-up fully - because I have yet to make sense of it myself! :open_mouth: :smiley:

Of course, what I should have done was wear a nice social/sexy/engaging mix for my first proper night out, one day short of seven months from my surgery and got a lift home from my pal when he left just before midnight - But you know me better by now? :o

So that is why I eventually crawled in my door at 5:30 am after ending the night doing shots in a grotty Northern Soul club with a lady who arrived with another guy altogether! :o

The mix:

MX353 - 3 sprays neck/throat.

A314 Extra None Edition (Rev27) - 3 drops, 1 between wrists and one each temple.

P96 - 25mcg to the back of my neck.

Cannot wait to go this again in a similar environment. :smiley:

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Mobocaster,
Any chance you could describe the effects of P96 to me please? Is it true that this is another happy molecule? It seems a very strong dose you have used in that combo… any reason for the high dose?

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To answer the orig question ..

Ammo is way more well suited for a beginner ..

first there is tons of info on how to tweak it or steer it in whatever direction you want ..

and it’s the more flexible product in my eyes ..

Ammo you can combine with literally everything .. and this does not count for MX353 !!!

MX353 is a mix you need to be able to handle . do not think peeps that this is easy and you are willing to take the challenge .. !!!

If you are not already experienced with mones and have good game MX353 is not for you !

It’s like a Lotus car .. amazing for what it’s designed for .. but not for everyday use .. there is a BMW Z4 better suited :wink:

Get the Ammo !!! Or maybe MX297 ..

Pago

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Pagodeiro has it, looking at my MX353 notes, it would seem to be the exotic sports car with the high pressure clutch, lightweight flyweel, etc. Just because you can drive stick on a VW doesn’t mean you know how to drive one of these exotic sporty vehicles. And certainly, it won’t be a practical daily driver. But I’m sure it’lll be a hell of a lot of fun in the right setting, once you figure out how to keep it on the road and avoid grinding gears.
2x of MX353 is prob. equivalent to IJ plus MX297. Sexy jerk celebrity. blinding paparazzi flashes*

Ammo/IG/TUTH combos is the 5 speed manual that you may get reasonably comfortable using with in a dozen or so dedicated practice runs. maybe less.

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What the poll writer/OP hasn’t mentioned is what type of beginner he’s picking the product for. The issue that gets mentioned frequently on here is congruence: the product must match the person’s character traits or at least the mood for a given night. Someone who’s already somewhat socially dominant and smooth with ladies will do fine with MX353, especially in a socially aggressive environment like a nightclub. The “I’m da man!” vibe produced by MX353 will match his personality and will get appropriate reactions. A quieter type who occasionally experiences social awkwardness and problems meeting women may get DIHL looks, ghosting, or even flat-out hostility, due to the mismatch between personality and pheromones. That person will be better off with Ammo, which has the vibe more like “I’m worth being around”. It’s buffered with milder pheromones, in addition to the usual androstenone and androsterone, for a friendlier, more cooperative vibe, while retaining the masculinity it’s intended to put out.

I can speak from experience that Ammo gets you flirty, affectionate reactions, rather than flat-out sexual ones. Typical social boundaries will get crossed after knowing someone new for less than 30 minutes. That is, you might get things like chest-to-chest hugs, cuddling, intertwining of fingers, etc., as opposed to getting pulled into a restroom or a dark corner for sexy time. This is neither good nor bad; there might even be times when you’d prefer that. But that’s been my experience with Ammo.