Hey,
Im trying to decide between turn up the heat and Ammo – I already know whats in Ammo. Is turn up the heat just simply none or is there more to it? I go out to bars and clubs a lot. I also do some stuff during the day though – would TUTH be too imposing during the day and cause me problems?
Turn up the heat has none plus trace amount of directional pheromones for better results.
Yes it is too imposing for the day, and will get u in trouble if ur not careful 
like into a fight or piss off your boss for example
Go with the Ammo for daily use. The TUTH will be too much for regular day use and is best used for “those special times” - like when she is desparate, drunk or bored - lol.
J/K.
About the desparate, drunk or bored. Do get the Ammo for everyday use.
Right now I have Openess and Female magic. I am looking into other products right now. I need something with some sexual punch to it. I have tried Ammo and I actually don’t remember really noticing all that much compared to a product with a bit more none like Alter Ego. I also am familiar with the drawbacks though to none – being seen as dirty or a sex maniac. My guess with ammo is that either I didn’t apply enough, applied too many other products with it (usually openess and shine) OR that the product itself drowns out the none to the point that it is almost like not having any at all. I still am interested in testing Ammo again though sometime in the future…
Right now to be honest I am leaning in towards this new liquid truth and a none product. I am looking to use axe sprays as a cover. Tonight I will be testing Openess with a bit of female magic. This will be interesting because the bottles I just found today – and they are 2 years old.
I also have experimented with A314 which gets me consistant results. Im trying to find that bottle too …
It seems people feel Ammo is better, do you all still feel that way considering I am a type O, go to clubs and meat market bars a lot, and tend to lean towards a same night lay or at least spend a bulk of time on a dance floor?? Im kind of at odds about none. i have seen great and bad reactions from it. There is already quite a “you just want to get into my pants” vibe in the clubs – perhaps this liquid trust might be better for getting past that?? Then again I would think I would need SOMETHING to get the girls who are LOOKING for sex and give me an edge. It’s not even really that I am looking for sex – I am just looking to have fun and attract fun girls into my life. I want to enjoy this no strings attached time period I am going through right now…
Yeah I can pretty much back that up.
On the 4th of July I got my hand burned in a grilling accident. I ended up in the bathroom soaking my hand & it turns out there was a girl who was a nurse at the party. She came & helped me & when she stepped out I sprayed some heat on me (had a to go bottle) & when she came back we started getting more…comfortable. But in the span of about an hour we kept getting knocks on the door to the point where I flipped out & wanted to fight everybody.
Oh, & I was using Ammo during the day & I got a lot of friendly touching from some girls.
So just from this one day experience I’d say that Ammo is more social while Heat is a tool that can be used to seal the deal, so to speak (just dont get interrupted)
This is off topic but last night I applied 1/3 of a gel pack of some leftover edge I had to my chest. I also sprayed Instant Honesty in my hair and on my wrists (1 spray each). Finally – I sprayed some Instant Openness on my chest and my neck. I did not notice too much but the bottles are like 2 years old so I don’t know. I did have a couple wild things happen – one girl tittie bombed me and another girl blatently hit on me. Usually this is more aggressive than I am use to. I think I had a slight OD with the edge, but I did have some girls giggling uncontrollably.
Tonight I am going to go with the last drops of Alter Ego that I have on my neck along with about 2 sprays each of Instant honesty and instant openess to my wrists and one spray of instant openess to my chin and drapped behind my ears.
If anyone has a better mix with these let me know. Im going to a dance club. I am covering with kino axe spray. I know Alter Ego works well on me and have valid evidence to back that. I want to try to push the envelope on the Instant Openness and Instant Honesty to try to get some hits without totally giving off the gay vibe OD. Hopefully the AE will stabalize that effect.
Right now I have leftover A314 (wont test tonight but next week will have plenty of test chances because I am a supervisor with some sporatically challenging employees) and I have a lot of IH (also good to test at work) – I have a bit of IO (which I will save for nightlife and about a half gel pack of edge left.
Once P-83 comes back in I am going to get that along with a togo version of ammo or turn up the heat – still haven’t decided.
I love the AE mix, a lot more horny than Ammo, so not as well suited for work or general socializing. However I hate the AE scent: overpoweringly sweet and cheap smelling. Luckily the AE mone ratio is easy to cook up as a home brew: 2 androstenone:1.5 androstenol:1 androsterone (3.4mg mones in 7.5ml carrier). I mix it up and season with my fav cologne. It compares well with PheroProof but may be too strong for younger men.
I enjoy the alter ego smell but do find it’s better when I cover it with something a little more classy that blends well. 
I was looking to actually home brew but I am trying to work as much with the products I have. Maybe you can add some insight:
Here is what I was thinking:
Option A:
1 drop of A314 distributed on the neck and spread to the chest.
2 sprays turn up the heat on the chest.
1 spray IO on the wrists and one on the chin.
Option B:
3 sprays Ammo
1 spray TUTH
I know you use a home kit of straight up pheromones from reading your posts. I won’t really be doing that but since I already have sufficient stock of A314 (mainly rone) and of IO (nol) the only thing I really need to add to the mix is some straight up none and so it is sounding like TUTH may be the missing ingrediant I need here.
Then again it would make it less complex just to pick up some Ammo and spike it with TUTH – the only problem with that would be that I would have a bit more rone and nol than your formula you got there. I am a type O though so might require more stabalizors than you do. I just know that of all the mixes that Alter Ego tends to get me the most none hits without the drawbacks. It seems like around 3+ drops I can OD on it.
The alter ego breakdown is a bit different than the Ammo. Ammo is straight up 1/3 of each mone – which alter ego is as you said:
2 none
1.5 nol
1 rone
It really gives you those intriqued and sometimes sexual hits from the ladies sometimes without doing ANY work – while ammo is more of a curious type hit by the women and you usually need to jumpstart things a bit, which is fine too. Ammo is more chill and so can be good for the day too, which AE can be a little more of a rollercoaster.
i have used turn up the heat for two weeks and i have mixed results in the bars there seems to be a lot of interest and yet intimidating to most i started with 4 sprays behind my ears neck chest and wrists most women would not even look at me my friend they would talk to but they avoided eye contact with me so i toned down this week to 2 sprays behind my ears and neck and last night they just started coming up to me two women were with there dates and they would start winking and flirting when there dates wer’nt looking my boy tells me i intimidate people so toning down help a lot can’t wait to try the A314
Yes 4 sprays is too much especially if your using Turn Up The Heat as a standalone. You should always start low and work your way up. That is because over time the body and pores and pheromone production begin to start working in sink with it. It’s hard to get it to work moving down and much better moving up and starting low. I would recommend even backing down to one spray for a bit just to try to stabalize things.
Also you may consider picking up a stabalizer so you can add a bit of Androstenol or Androsterone to this.
what do recomend as a stabilizer?
thanks for the birthday greeting
Well first off I have never USED TUTH. So maybe someone else may have a more useful comment. However as I understand it TUTH is mainly none and I HAVE used None.
Keep in mind that everyone has a different body chemistry and tend to apply differently with different combinations at different times of the day in different circumstances. This pheromone stuff is not childs play. It’s fun because your like a gawd damn chemist. it’s not easy and takes a lot of testing. It’s like a hobby.
So always ALWAYS remember that advice is not universal, but the guys that are more experienced can usually help to guide you. Gegogi for instance has been in this for years. The guy needs lots of none for whatever reason – for me – I can come off very intimidating with too much none. Two totally different peeps. I need a bit of none to get an edge, but it must have stabalizers. Usually depending on your blood type, your age, and your place of practice – along with your body – results will vary.
Now all that being said, here is what I would do:
Start spraying 1 spray of TUTH per day. See if you can start riding out and fit into a sweet spot with the ladies based on that. Slowly up the dose if you feel you need to. You should go in 3 day increments. So 1 spray for the next 3 days .. if you feel you need an extra kick – move up to 2 sprays for the next 3 days. At some point when you consistantly apply your body starts to get in sinc and starts to recycle the pheromone for whatever reason and so you start to deal with what they call “build up” so you want to be cautious about upping the dose of none after 2 sprays or you od and once you od you want to reverse the process and let up on your applications – maybe even go a few days without spraying ANYTHING.
As for a stabalizer it depends on your environment. Too much none leads to intimidation or to women treating you like a shallow low life sex guy who wants to bop her on the head and drag her off to your cave. This is not good. Soooo whenever you can add some nol or rone to the mix it is good. Nol will genuinely encourage the women who are horny but not looking to become your bedpost notch – to open up a bit more to you and see you as not such a creep – it can get them acting a bit more on the social aspect so that you can have an easier time connecting with her so that she feels better about getting sexual with you and not like the main course to your thanksgiving dinner.
RONE can also help. Rone is going to stabalize the situation a bit and give you a classier vibe – which helps with women who think your dirty.
Now the best way is to get really good at controlling and nailing your none doses. That’s the best way to prevent this problem – but a little bit of rone and nol can help to stabalize the effects of too much none and give you more wiggle room. Too much rone in a very social environment like a club though isn’t going to help with the intimidating factor. That’s why any friendly or social mone that makes you more approachable is best to buffer the none. If you can only go with one try nol or one of the experimentals that are known for socialness or any type of thing that makes people feel more at ease or trustworty towards you. Rone can help a lot but just dont get carried away with it.