I was just wondering if anyone has tried replacing androstenone in a mix with something like P80 or P75? I’ve read a lot on the forums about people testing those individual molecules but I’m curious because I’m thinking of trying P80 in a mix to replace androstenone.
Are you making your own made mix or spraying on a combo? Do you have P83?
I am planning on my own composite (home made potion). Yup, I do have P83.
If you want to take your mix in the P83 direction, use just a little of None and use P83. Just don’t make a lot. Small batch to see if it is what you are looking for. It has made some fun nights at the clubs with those two added in a mix!
I think I have P75 but forgot about it. Got to test that one again!
I totally agree that P83 and androstenone play very well together. I usually add Meo-Est and it provides a level of comfort that pushes things forward very nicely!
I suggest 2.5 mcg of P75 and 12.5 mcg of P83 together as a baseline. That should be a fairly good analog… I’ll have to test this… hmmmm… I smell a pherosperiment coming on! 
Excellent, thanks! I’m off to check out P85 since I’m unfamiliar with that one. 
Aw shucks, did I say P85? I meant P83. I’ll change it. Sorry. :o
Ahhh, okay. I LOVE using P83 in different things. Amazing what adding a little ‘human velcro effect’ can do!
So have you had any experience with P80? From what I’ve read it has somewhat similar effects to ~none. That is why I’d considered giving it a try.
I’ve had some success using androstanone in lieu of androstenone: it has many of the benefits of androstenone but without most of the repelling properties. I’d describe it as sorta a “social” androstenone: almost like adding a strong zap of androstenol to NPA or TE. I’ve also used androstanone as a buffer for androstenone and it seemed to mellow it a bit without choking out the horny. Ultimately, I decided it was too much effort and expense for small effect as I’m one of those guys able to wear vast amounts of androstenone to no ill effect.
Thanks! Off to the ‘other’ place to check that out.